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by Prashant Desai 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Hi all i am newbiew to filer and storage , i am eager to know following things but unfortunately m not been able to get the rite pointers which can describe the stuffs in detail 1) How exactly the Fiber Channel works ? what are the stuffs involves in setting up a SAN using a Fiber Channel and what are their functions in details along with the alternative devices that too supports the same functions and can be used 2) what is the purpose of space reservation as far as Netapp's Filer FCP support is concern , why people need space reservation for volumes,qtrees or for luns ? 3) what size of volume i need to have if i want 1 TB of lun ? i have read in docs that i should i have atleast 2-3 times volume size if i wanna have lun on the volume that is for 1 TB of lun i need to have 2-3 TB of volume , where the other storage space being used ? 4) what would be the usable lun storage capacity if i create lun of 1 TB ? how much space will get utilized for partition table and keeping file systems metadata ? 5) is it possible to install more then one HBA's on hosts like solaris , windows mechines ? -- Warm Regards, Prashant Desai

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need help psl clarify
by Prashant Desai 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Hi all i am newbiew to filer and storage , i am eager to know following things but unfortunately m not been able to get the rite pointers which can describe the stuffs in detail 1) How exactly the Fiber Channel works ? what are the stuffs involves in setting up a SAN using a Fiber Channeland what are their functions in details along with the alternativedevices that too supports the same functions and can be used 2) what is the purpose of space reservation as far as Netapp's Filer FCP support is concern , why people need space reservation for volumes,qtrees or for luns ? 3) what size of volume i need to have if i want 1 TB of lun ? i have read in docs that i should i have atleast 2-3 times volume size if i wanna have lun on the volume that is for 1 TB of lun i need to have 2-3 TB of volume, where the other storage space being used ? 4) what would be the usable lun storage capacity if i create lun of 1 TB? how much space will get utilized for partition table and keeping file systems metadata ? 5) is it possible to install more then one HBA's on hosts like solaris , windows mechines ? Warm Regards, Prashant Desai __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/

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Re: F760 SCSI, Single-ended or Differential
by Graydon Dodson 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

I once had to RMA the motherboard on an old 760. After the swap the onboard SCSI changed from single-ended to differential. Since I was not using the motherboard SCSI it was not an issue for me. I now have two 760s one reports motherboard SCSI as single-ended and the other differential. I suspect there are two different motherboard designs for the 760. Graydon Dodson

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test
by Chris Ueland 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

test

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AW: clustered filers and CIFS ...
by Engmann, Tobias 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

You can do it,you must ensure cross network connectivity. If filer A fails,filer B will completely taken over Filer A including Network and Netbios Identity etc.so you have one physikal and one virtual Filer in the same physikal Network Segment. Regards, Tobias Engmann SE Netapp Cluster characteristics The filers in a cluster have the following characteristics: * They are connected to each other through a cluster interconnect consisting of adapters and cable through which they * Continually check whether the other filer is functioning * Mirror log data for each other's NVRAM * Synchronize each other's time * They use two Fibre Channel Arbitrated Loops (FC-AL), in which * Each filer uses the A loop to manage its own disks * Each filer uses the B loop in takeover mode to manage its partner's disks * They own their spare disks and do not share them with the other filer. * They may reside on the same NT domain or on different domains. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Waters, G Scott STG [mailto:george.scott.waters@us.army.mil] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2003 20:21 An: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Betreff: clustered filers and CIFS ... Here's one that I think I know the answer to but I figured I would see if anyone had any comments ... Can a set of clustered filers ... each running CIFS ... belong to two different NT4 domains?? I figure the answer is NO ... since when one of the filers failed the other would not be configured to handle requests for the other domain. Could someone confirm or deny my opinion?? Thanks. - Scott W.

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RE: DOT 6.4.2P11
by Egner, Michael 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Kerry, 6.4.2P11 is a GA release. Take a look at the the Data Ontap Release Model http://now.netapp.com/NOW/products/ontap_releasemodel/. 6.4.2P6 is a GA release, and was released as GA in September. All subsequent "P" releases will also be released GA. Hope this helps. -Mike Egner Systems Engineer Network Appliance Office: 847-655-2128 -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Herschel [mailto:margaret.k.herschel@jpl.nasa.gov] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:03 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: DOT 6.4.2P11 I need to upgrade a R150 from DOT version 6.4.1P1D1 to DOT 6.4.2P11 because of bug 102089/Disk spin up errors could lead to wafl hung panic. My system did a system panic and rebooted last week due to this error. I'm a little nervous though about upgrading to a non-GA release. Is anyone out there running this release? (Netapp claims 20 systems are running it). If so any issues with it? Thanks for any input, Kerry Herschel ================================================================ Margaret.K.Herschel(a)jpl.nasa.gov ICIS Jet Propulsion Laboratory Phone 818.354.1111 DISCLAIMER: The personal and professional opinions presented herein are my own and do not, in any way, represent the opinion or policy of JPL.

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clustered filers and CIFS ...
by Waters, G Scott STG 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Here's one that I think I know the answer to but I figured I would see if anyone had any comments ... Can a set of clustered filers ... each running CIFS ... belong to two different NT4 domains?? I figure the answer is NO ... since when one of the filers failed the other would not be configured to handle requests for the other domain. Could someone confirm or deny my opinion?? Thanks. - Scott W.

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RE: Newbie Help
by grey jolly 04 Dec '03

04 Dec '03

Good day Preshant: For background information look up Jon Toigo's Books on Amazon and look on Google to find his articles. Also, you can find a lot of background on the website www.nas-san.com Toasters is a great group for help on NetApp products and software. Welcome to the Storage world, Grey From: Prashant Desai [mailto:prashant@apara.com] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:29 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Newbie Help Hi There I am new to storage arean any good links to start learning about storage networking , i wanna know it inside out and wants to start with fundamentals any pointers will help me regards Prashant __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/

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RE: Newbie Help
by Dehorn, Rusty 04 Dec '03

04 Dec '03

Hi Prashant- I train new sales people at NetApp. My favorite book for an introduction to storage networking is "Using NAS and SAN" by W. Curtis Peterson (published by O'Reilly). This has been required reading for our sales force. A thicker read but also good is "Building Storage Networks" by Marc Farley. I haven't checked the most recent versions for updates but I assume they are updated. Rusty Dehorn NetApp University -----Original Message----- From: Prashant Desai [mailto:prashant@apara.com] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:29 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Newbie Help Hi There I am new to storage arean any good links to start learning about storage networking , i wanna know it inside out and wants to start with fundamentals any pointers will help me regards Prashant

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Newbie Help
by Prashant Desai 04 Dec '03

04 Dec '03

Hi There I am new to storage arean any good links to start learning about storage networking , i wanna know it inside out and wants to start with fundamentals any pointers will help me regards Prashant

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