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Kinh moi tham du: Hoi cho thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung - Viet (27-30/3) tai China
by xttm＠china-vn.com 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

Moi chi tiet xin truy cap: http://www.china-vn.net/vn/vn Kinh moi tham du >>>> Hoi cho(Quang Tay) thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung Quoc-Viet Nam lan thu II Thoi gian to chuc : 27/03-30/03/2003 Dia diem: Dai Le Duong Nhan Dan tinh Quang Tay-Trung Quoc Du kien quy mo trien lam: 250 gian hang Don vi to chuc: Phan ban Quang Tay-Uy ban xuc tien thuong mai quoc te Trung Quoc Uy ban nhan dan tinh Quang Tay-Trung Quoc Cong ty co phan thuong mai & xuat nhap khau Quang Tay Cong ty trien lam kinh te thuong mai Hoan Cau Dong to chuc: Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (VCCI) Cong ty thuong mai & du lich quoc te Kim Lan-Trung Quoc Mang thong tin Trung-Viet: http://www.china-vn.net Uy ban xuc tien thuong mai quoc te Trung Quoc. Giay Moi Hoi cho(Quang Tay) thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung Quoc-Viet Nam lan thu II se to chuc vao ngay 27 - 30 thang 03 nam 2003 tai Dai Hoi Duong Nhan Dan tinh Quang Tay thanh pho Nam Ninh.Tinh Quang Tay TQ la mot hanh lang chinh cho cac doanh nghiep cac tinh noi dia Trung Quoc nhat la cac tinh ven bien Dong Nam Bo va cac tinh mien Bac TQ di vao thi truong cac nuoc ASEAN qua Viet Nam, tinh Quang Tay TQ cung da tro thanh dau cau cua Trung Quoc tien vao thi truong Dong Nam A. Sau khi gia nhap WTO va di doi voi su khoi dong cua mo hinh khu mau dich tu do Trung Quoc - ASEAN(10+1),khien cho vi the uu viet cua Quang Tay cang noi bat len. Cuoc hoi cho lan nay se to chuc voi ton chi la de phat huy day du vi the va uu viet ve tai yen cua Quang Tay, that chat hon nua moi quan he mau dich va hop tac kinh te giua hai nuoc Trung - Viet. Chung toi se het suc phuc vu tot cho cac vi quy khach Trung Quoc va Viet Nam den du Hoi cho nay va chung toi se cung cap day du dich vu nhu Quang cao hang xuat khau Viet Nam, xuc tien hop tac Trung-Viet, tim doi tac TQ cho Doanh nghiep Viet Nam, lap quan he voi Co quan chinh phu TQ cho DN Viet Nam, giup dai ly san pham, gioi thieu du an dau tu, tu van chinh sach kinh te ….Kinh moi ban cung nhau xay dung mot bac thang cho su hop tac va giao luu thuong mai giua hai nuoc Trung Quoc va Viet Nam. Noi dung trien lam: Cong nghiep: Thiet bi in an va dong goi, nguyen lieu va san pham cao su, giay, chat deo…, xe may & phu tung, cong cu gia dung, do dien gia dung…, Cac san pham cong nghe cao…. Nong nghiep: Nong lam dac san, giong cay trong, thiet bi co gioi nong nghiep, che bien & dong goi thuc pham va nong san; thuc an gia suc, phan bon hoa hoc, thuoc tru sau, thuc pham… Y te: Thiet bi y te, duoc pham va hoa chat… Che bien thuy hai san: Cong nghe va thiet bi che bien thuy hai san… Tieu thu cong nghiep: Cac mat hang thu cong my nghe, qua tang, do choi, cac san pham tong hop khac… Gioi thieu cac du an dau tu, giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet Lich hoi cho: Ngay 25 - 26/03/2003: Dang ky va bo tri gian hang Ngay 27 - 30/03/2003: Trien lam, hoi thao, khao sat thuc te Ngay 30/03/2003: Ket thuc trien lam Hinh thuc tham gia: 1. Thue gian hang: Chi phi thue gian hang:600USD/mot gian Tieu chuan gian hang: 3m X 2m = 6m2 , bao gom: Dat thue, vach ngan, tham trai san, 01 o cam dien 13A-220V, 01 ban 02 ghe, bieu hieu cong ty bang tieng Viet hoac tieng Trung. Quang cao trong Show Catalogue: 200USD/trang mau trang trong. Phi van chuyen tu Ha Noi den cua khau Huu Nghi Quan:200USD/luot/xe tai 5 tan(chia binh quan cho tat ca cac doanh nghiep tham du co chuyen hang), phi boc hang se tinh rieng theo trung loai va so luong hang hoa. Cuoc phi van chuyen hang hoa tu Huu Nghi Quan - Nam Ninh:150USD/luot/xe tai 5 tan, phi boc hang se tinh rieng theo trung loai va so luong hang hoa. Chuong tirnh danh cho nguoi dai bieu tham gia trung bay tai Hoi cho: 24/03: Ha Noi 15:00, cac dai bieu tap trung va hop doan tai Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (Dia chi:33 Ba Trieu Ha Noi), pho bien chuong trinh.(Chi phi an nghi, phuong tien di lai do dai bieu tu lo trong ngay nay); 25/03: Ha Noi - Nam Ninh 06h00 tap trung tai Phong Cong nghiep va thuong mai Viet Nam(VCCI) theo dia chi: 33-Ba Trieu-Ha Noi (Nga tu duong Ly Thuong Kiet va Ba Trieu), Ban to chuc don dai bieu xuat phat len Huu Nghi Quan lam thu tuc nhap canh Trung Quoc, len tau hoa di Nam Ninh, an nghi tai Nam Ninh. 26/03: Nam Ninh Ca ngay trang tri, dan dung gian hang. 27/03: Nam Ninh Khai mac Hoi cho, giao dich thuong mai giua doanh nghiep Trung Quoc -Viet Nam. Chieu tham du Hoi nghi giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet, toi du tiec chieu dai cua ban to chuc va Uy ban tinh Quang Tay. 28/03: Nam Ninh Trung bay hang hoa tai trien lam hoac du hoi thao theo cac chuyen de: "Trung Quoc-Viet Nam tiem nang va che bien nong san & thuc pham" "Thiet bi va cong nghe moi ve bao quan va che bien nong san & thuc pham", khao sat Vuon nong nghiep hien dai Quang Tay, Tham quan Khu cong nghe cao va moi thanh pho Nam Ninh. 29/03:Nam Ninh Trung bay hang hoa tai trien lam hoac du Hoi thao: "Hinh thuc thanh toan an toan trong thuong mai Trung - Viet", Khao sat va lam viec, tiep xuc tu do voi cac doi tac tiem nang Trung Quoc. 30/03:Nam Ninh - Ha Noi Sau khi an sang, di tau hoa ve Bang Tuong, chieu cac dai bieu xuat canh Trung Quoc ve Viet Nam, den Ha Noi, ket thuc chuong trinh.(Khang tu lo an toi va nghi khach san trong ngay nay). Chi phi: 265USD/Dai bieu Chi phi bao gom: Khach san 3 sao, an nghi, xe dua don theo chuong trinh, phi du trien lam va Hoi thao, phien dich chung ca doan. Chi phi khong gom: Ho chieu va Visa nhap canh TQ. Neu dai bieu di bang giay thong hanh phat sinh them 35USD/dai bieu. 2. Tham gia trien lam nhung khong thue gian hang Chuong trinh danh cho nguoi dai bieu tham gia trien lam nhung khong thue gian hang: 25/03: Ha Noi 15:00, cac dai bieu tap trung va hop doan tai Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (Dia chi:33 Ba Trieu Ha Noi), pho bien chuong trinh.(Chi phi an nghi, phuong tien di lai do dai bieu tu lo trong ngay nay); 26/03: Ha Noi - Nam Ninh 06h00 tap trung tai Phong cong nghiep va thuong mai Viet Nam (VCCI) theo dia chi: 33-Ba Trieu-Ha Noi (Nga tu duong Ly Thuong Kiet va Ba Trieu), Ban to chuc don dai bieu xuat phat len Huu Nghi Quan lam thu tuc nhap canh Trung Quoc, len tau hoa di Nam Ninh, an nghi tai Nam Ninh. 27/03: Nam Ninh Khai mac Hoi cho, giao dich thuong mai giua doanh nghiep Trung Quoc -Viet Nam. Chieu khai mac Hoi nghi giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet, toi du tiec chieu dai cua ban to chuc va Uy ban tinh Quang Tay. 28/03: Nam Ninh Tham gia trien lam hoac du hoi thao theo cac chuyen de: "Trung Quoc-Viet Nam tiem nang va che bien nong san & thuc pham" "Thiet bi va cong nghe moi ve bao quan va che bien nong san & thuc pham", khao sat Vuon nong nghiep hien dai Quang Tay, Tham quan Khu cong nghe cao va moi thanh pho Nam Ninh. 29/03: Nam Ninh Tham gia trien lam hoac du Hoi thao: "Hinh thuc thanh toan an toan trong thuong mai Trung - Viet", Khao sat va lam viec, tiep xuc tu do voi cac doi tac tiem nang Trung Quoc. 30/03:Nam Ninh - Ha Noi Sau khi an sang, di tau hoa ve Bang Tuong, chieu cac dai bieu xuat canh Trung Quoc ve Viet Nam, den Ha Noi, ket thuc chuong trinh.(Khang tu lo an toi va nghi khach san trong ngay nay). Chi phi:250USD/Dai bieu Chi phi bao gom: Khach san 3 sao, an nghi, xe dua don theo chuong trinh, phi du trien lam va Hoi thao, phien dich chung ca doan. Chi phi khong gom: Ho chieu va Visa nhap canh TQ. Neu dai bieu di bang giay thong hanh phat sinh them 35USD/dai bieu. Ghi chu: Neu co dai bieu yeu cau di them khao sat tai Que Lam thi chuong trinh se phai them 2 ngay nua so voi cac chuong trinh tren, chi phi phat sinh them 100USD/Dai bieu. Thu tuc dang ky: 1. Doanh nghiep gui ban dang ky fax cung voi 50% tien dat coc bang tien mat hoac dien chuyen tien toi: Cong ty dich vu va thuong mai TSC -Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam Tai khoan tien VND:0021000001059 Tai khoan tien USD:00211370021623 Ngan hang ngoai thuong Ha Noi (VIETCOMBANK HANOI) 2. So tien con lai thanh toan 10 ngay truoc ngay khoi hanh. Quyen loi cua cac don vi tham gia trung bay tai trien lam: - Tham gia vao cac Hoi thao, hoi nghi to chuc trong thoi gian Hoi cho. - Gioi thieu trong cuon Catalogue chinh thuc cua Hoi cho bang tieng Trung, an pham nay se duoc phat mien phi cho khach tham quan Hoi cho va cac moi gioi khac. - Dam bao ve sinh chung trong khu hoi cho. - Ban ve an toan hang hoa trung bay ngoai gio mo cua cua hoi cho trien lam. - Dan dung va thao do gian hang trong truong hop thue gian hang tron goi. Cac dich vu nha to chuc ho tro cac don vi tham gia(co thu phi) - Van tai va tam nhap tai xuat hang trien lam. - In quang cao theo thiet ke rieng trong cuon Catalogue hoi cho. - To chuc cac hoi thao chuyen de, gioi thieu san pham va dich vu rieng. - Cung cap phien dich rieng theo yeu cau:20USD/buoi(4 tieng), 30USD/ngy(8 tieng), ngoai gio 10USD/tieng dong ho. - Thiet ke va dan dung cac gian hang dac biet, cho thue thiet ke gian gang. - Cung cap cac dich vu in an, cac san pham quang cao rieng. Ho tro cua Ban to chuc danh cho cac don vi: - Ban to chuc se ho tro 10% chi phi thue gian hang cho cac don vi cua Viet Nam, 15% phi thue gian hang cho doanh nghiep la hoi vien cua Cty Thang Loi - Hoi dong lien minh hop tac xa Viet Nam. Moi dang ky phai duoc thuc hien truoc ngay 17/02/2003. - Tat ca hang hoa trung bay trien lam se duoc mien thue hai quan Trung Quoc (ngoai ra mot so hang hoa dac biet) voi so luong khong han che nhung phai duoc su dong y cua Ban to chuc. - Doi voi cac doanh nghiep khong thue gian hang, Ban to chuc se bo tri mot phong trung bay chung mien phi Catalongue va mot so hang mau cua doanh nghiep trong thoi gian Hoi cho. - Tat ca cac doanh nghiep Viet nam tham gia Hoi cho deu duoc mien phi thong tin co ban cua doanh nghiep trong vong 1 nam tren trang tieng Trung cua Mang thong tin Trung-Viet: http://ww.china-vn.net de nham tao them co hoi tiep tan lau dai voi thi truong TQ. - Mien phi mot quyen Catalogue chinh thuc cua Hoi cho cho moi donh nghiep Viet Nam co tham gia Hoi cho. - Gioi thieu mien phi doi tac tiem nang tai Trung Quoc khi doanh nghiep Viet Nam co yeu cau va dang ky truoc 15 ngay tro len. Nhung thong tin can biet khi tham gia Hoi cho: - Tat ca hang hoa trung bay trien lam deu phai chuyen toi Ha Noi truoc ngay 10/03/2003 de Ban to chuc nhan hang tai Ha Noi va tap trung lam thu tuc hai quan Trung Quoc, qua han tren, Ban to chuc se khong chiu trach nhiem ve thu tuc hai quan. (Luu y: cac doanh nghiep tu chiu chi phi van chuyen len cua khau, va tu lam cac thu tuc hai quan Viet Nam).Cac don vi cung cap cho BTC danh muc hang hoa(Packing List) trung bay trine lam truoc 28/02/2003 gom co: Ten don vi tham gia trien lam, ten hang , so luong, noi xuat xung, don gia, kich co,trong luong, hinh thuc dong goi, so luong kien, so luong hang can tro ve VN sau hoi cho. - Doi voi cac dai bieu tham gia khao sat Hoi cho (khong thue gian hang), de nghi dang ky va nop ho so, danh sach day du theo yeu cau cua Ban to chuc truoc ngay 28/02/2003. - Cac dai bieu VN co the nhap canh Trung Quoc bang ho chieu + visa (khach tu lo).Trong truong hop hop khong kip xin cap ho chieu hoac Visa thi co the nhap canh TQ bang giay thong hanh do Ban to chuc tap trung xin thu tuc tai Viet Nam va Trung Quoc. Tuy nhien thu tuc nay chi co duoc phep thong hanh trong tinh Quang Tay TQ, ma khong duoc di vuot qua dia phan tinh Quang Tay-TQ voi thoi gian co gia tri trong 8 ngay. Neu co nhu cau can sang cac tinh khac cua TQ trong chuyen di bang giay thong hanh thi phai bao truoc cho Ban to chuc de giup do thu tuc. - Cac dai bieu xuat nhap canh bang giay thong hanh nop cho BTC 04 anh mau 3X4 va 02 chung minh thu Phto it nhat 10 ngay truoc khi xuat canh. - Cac doanh nghiep muon duoc gioi thieu mien phi khach hang tiem nang TQ hoac dang tai thong tin tren Mang thong tin Trung -Viet www.china-vn.net , de nghi gui truoc 10 ngay cac thong tin co noi dung gom: ten doanh nghiep, dia chi thong tin, Tel,Fax,E-mail,Website, so luoc doanh nghiep, thong tin san pham, can mua va can ban, muc dich chuyen di… cho Ban to chuc bang tieng Viet hoac Trung (Khong qua 1000 tu). Moi chi tiet xin lien he: Hoac lien he truc tiep voi chung toi: + Ban to chuc Hoi cho: Dia chi:18 ngo Nam Nhat Ly, duong Tinh Ho, T.P Nam Ninh Tel:0086-771-2615157 Fax:0086-771-2630917 E-mail: xttm(a)china-vn.com Website: www.china-vn.net Nguoi lien he: Mr. Hai , Mr. Luc + Dai dien Ban to chuc tai Viet Nam: Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam Trung tam giao dich quoc te TSC Dia chi:33 - Ba Trieu - Hoan Kiem- Ha Noi- Viet Nam Tel:04.9360134 Fax:04.9360103 E-mail: vcciglobexpo(a)hn.vnn.vn Nguoi lien he: Mr:Hung Mobi:0913367082 Cong ty thuong mai & du lich quoc te Kim Lan-Quang Tay- Trung Quoc Trung tam xuc tien thuong mai Trung - Viet Van phong dai dien tai Ha Noi DC: 204 Pho Duc Chinh-Ba Dinh-Ha Noi Tel: 04-9273335 Fax: 04-9273335 E-mail: kimlanhanoi(a)fpt.vn Nguoi lien he: Mr.Bach - Mobi: 0912118616 Moi chi tiet xin truy cap: http://www.china-vn.net/vn/vn

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SecureAdmin
by fubar＠pir.net 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

SecureAdmin 2.1.1 ONTAP 6.1R1 New system, just slapped SecureAdmin on it... secure filer view works happily, ssh has ... issues. I can connect fine from a host running ssh v1.2.27, but connecting from OpenSSH hosts seems to fail. Said hosts are FreeBSD and Solaris running 2.3.0 and 2.5.1_p1 respectively. Initially, I thought it was a protocol 2 issue, but that's not it. Here's what happens: SSH Version OpenSSH_2.3.0 green(a)FreeBSD.org 20010321, protocol versions 1.5/2.0. Compiled with SSL (0x0090600f). debug: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug: Applying options for * debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0 debug: Connecting to (null) [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] port 22. debug: Allocated local port 1022. debug: Connection established. debug: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version 2.1.1 debug: match: 2.1.1 pat ^2\. debug: Local version string SSH-1.5-OpenSSH_2.3.0 green(a)FreeBSD.org 20010321 debug: Waiting for server public key. debug: Received server public key (512 bits) and host key (768 bits). debug: Host 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' is known and matches the RSA host key. debug: Encryption type: 3des debug: Sent encrypted session key. debug: Installing crc compensation attack detector. debug: Received encrypted confirmation. debug: Doing password authentication. root(a)xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx's password: debug: Requesting pty. debug: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding. debug: Requesting authentication agent forwarding. Warning: Remote host denied authentication agent forwarding. debug: Requesting shell. debug: Entering interactive session. Connection to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx closed. debug: Transferred: stdin 0, stdout 1, stderr 36 bytes in 0.5 seconds debug: Bytes per second: stdin 0.0, stdout 2.0, stderr 73.4 debug: Exit status 0 I can't imagine that everyone out there using ssh on the filer is also still using the old ssh versions, so it's gotta be me. Right? K.

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Moving ClearCase to Netapp
by Lewis M. Church 17 Nov '01

17 Nov '01

We currently run ClearCase 4.0 using local disk for our vob and view storage. We're interested in moving the entirety of our ClearCase storage to NetApp. Ideally, we'd like to simply shutdown ClearCase, copy the vobstore and viewstore data to the NetApp filesystems, remount the NetApp filesystems at the same mount-point as the local filesystems had been and restart ClearCase. I've never been given a clear explanation from Rational on whether this would work or not, but the general feeling has been that it won't. When I've pressed for a reason why not, I've been told "because it's not the method that's documented" My question for netapp folks out there is if anyone's attempted what I've described above and if it worked or not. Also if you know it won't work and could explain to me why, I'd appreciate it. Note, our ClearCase is running on HPUX 10.20, the NetApp is configured only for NFS, no CIFS. Thanks, Lew Church Telcordia Technologies, Inc. lchurch(a)telcordia.com

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Legato Networker NDMP backup of Filers
by mcope＠isisph.com 26 Oct '01

26 Oct '01

Are there any other brave souls out there using Legato Networker's NDMP software to backup a Filer? I know most everyone uses Veritas but the locally Veritas has some customer support/satisfaction issues. I'm running Networker 6.1 build 186 backing up Filers running DOT 6.1R1. The problem I'm having is restoring files using their Direct Access Restore (DAR) which they crow so loudly about as THE feature that puts them ahead of the competition. For restores from multi- tape backups the restore fails when trying to find files on the second or third tape. I've applied their unreleased patches for nwrecover and recover which made some improvements but I'm still getting failures. I starting to feel like I payed to be a beta-tester for them. Is there anyone else using Legato's NDMP backup that has any info, tips, war stories to share? Thanx, Michael Cope UNIX/Linux Systems Administrator ISIS Pharmaceuticals mcope(a)isisph.com UNIX is very user friendly... it's just highly selective about who it makes friends WITH!

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RE: Is there a way to tell who is mapping specific filer cifs sha res?
by White, Lance 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

Do this via rsh command to a Filer, or on the Filer itself. Displaying CIFS session information BM_1288165 CIFS session information you can display BM_1263345You can display information about connected users and the number of shares and open files for each user. You can also display information about a specific connected user. BM_1263347 Displaying information with the cifs sessions command BM_1263348The cifs sessions command syntax is as follows: BM_1263349cifs sessions <username> BM_1263351 Displaying information about all connected users BM_1263352To display information about all connected users, use the following command syntax: BM_1263354cifs sessions BM_1263355Sample output is BM_1263356Server Registers as 'TOASTER` in group WNT-DOMAIN BM_1263357WINS Server: 272.320.0.4 BM_1263358PC style Access Control is being used BM_1263359Using domain controller WNT-DOMAIN-PDC for authentication BM_1263360======================================== BM_1263361PC (user) #shares #files BM_1263362SMITHPC (qsmith) 1 1 BM_1263363PETERSPC (zpeters) 2 3 BM_1263364 Displaying information about one user BM_1263365To display the information for a particular user, specify the user name in the command; for example: BM_1263366cifs sessions ghopper BM_1263367users BM_1263368 shares/files opened BM_1263369BM_1263370 HALEY-HOME1 (ghopper) BM_1263371 ENG-USERS BM_1263372 Read-denyW - \GHOPPER\SRC\PROD\COMMON\HTTPD\httpd_fast.c BM_1263373BM_1263374BM_1263375 HALEY-PC (ghopper) BM_1263376 ENG-USERS BM_1263377 Displaying connected user security information BM_1263378To display security information for each connected user, use cifs sessions with the -s option. After the first two lines, detailed information for each connected user is displayed. The following example lists only one user. BM_1263379cifs sessions -s BM_1263380users BM_1263381 Security Information BM_1263382 BM_1263383HOLARD-PC (root) BM_1263384 *************** BM_1263385 UNIX uid = 0 BM_1263386 user is a member of group daemon (1) BM_1263387 user is a member of group www (204) BM_1263388 user is a member of group well (0) BM_1263389 user is a member of group http (500) BM_1263390 BM_1263391 NT membership BM_1263392 WNT-DOMAIN\root BM_1263393 WNT-DOMAIN\Domain Users BM_1263394 WNT-DOMAIN\Domain Admins BM_1263395 WNT-DOMAIN\SU Users BM_1263396 WNT-DOMAIN\Installers BM_1263397 BUILTIN\Users BM_1263398 BUILTIN\Administrators BM_1263399 User is also a member of Everyone, Network Users, BM_1263400 Authenticated Users BM_1263401 *************** -----Original Message----- From: Monica Lam [mailto:Monica.Lam@cosinecom.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 10:29 AM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Is there a way to tell who is mapping specific filer cifs shares? Hi, We want to intermittantly capture data on which users are mapping which cifs shares off of our filers. Any one familiar with a command line way of doing this, either from NT or solaris or the Network Appliance itself? (The information shows up in the NT server manager, but it is not very useful in terms of capturing trends...) Thanks!

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RE: vol copy from 5.3.6R2 to 6.0.1R1
by Fox, Adam 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Let me be the first to say, I could be wrong here, but since 6.0 allows you to offline a volume without rebooting the filer should be able to revert it back without affecting any other volumes. I believe that's what the error message is telling you... > Filesystem version mismatch for destination volume vol1, reverting the > version and aborting transfer. A console message will be > displayed when > this revert is complete. Therefore, look for a revert complete message on the console (and probably /etc/messages) and it should work. SnapMirror would have the same issue for the initial transfer. Basically the filesystems have to match. But since 6.x can revert, it works. Obviously 5.x can't upgrade the filesystem to 6.x. -- Adam Fox NetApp Professional Services, NC adamfox(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian L. Brush [mailto:brian@paradyne.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 2:55 PM > To: Fox, Adam > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: vol copy from 5.3.6R2 to 6.0.1R1 > > > "Fox, Adam" wrote: > > > > You can still do the transfer. It just has to revert > > the target (F760) to the 5.3 filesystems first. After > > that revert is complete, you can do the vol copy. > > My understanding is, in that case, I would have to revert ALL of the > 760's volumes before the migration from the 230. Although I'm > in a test > environment at this point--well, half of a test > environment--at the time > of the actual migration the 760 will have several hundred gigabytes' > worth of other volumes already online. > > Is there a way to perform the vol copy without affecting the target > filer's other volumes? > > I would try SnapMirror, but I don't have licenses for it on > both boxes. > > I'm really trying to avoid the old Unix box intermediary, both because > down-time is inversely proportional to speed and because my level of > uneasiness is proportional to the intricacy of the migration plan. > > --Brian L. Brush > Senior Systems Administrator > Paradyne Corporation >

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NetApp 840 vs EMC Celerra
by Mark Bentley 04 Oct '01

04 Oct '01

For those of you who were interested in the benchmark results of the NetApp 840 and EMC Celerra read on. You'll see the NetApp 840 is the fastest for this type of benchmark, though, according to EMC, they have a new data-mover with dual processors and twice as much cache (1GB) coming out very soon. I wonder how that will compare to an 880. The following results were generated by an in-house benchmark program that attempts to measure real-world file/dir read and write speeds. The code is written in Java, and is multi-threaded, so it makes full use of the 4 processors in the E4500 I'm using for testing. The E4500 has 4GB of physical memory and is attached to both the NetApp 840 and EMC Celerra with GigE through a dedicated Cisco 6509. The NetApp 840 has 3GB of memory, and the Celerra has 512MB on the data-mover and 4GB on the Symmetrix. Both are using NFS3 over TCP. I'll also try to get the Iozone numbers posted soon. The two programs I'm using are called dirtest and readtest. dirtest writes a hierarchy of directories containing file of a specified size, and readtest reads the files in that hierarchy, each keeping track of the time it takes. Note: for the write test (dirtest is the actual program name) throughput is calculated using file space over elapsed time, even though the elapsed time includes the time to create the directories as well. Even so, since directory creation takes a relatively small amount of time compared to writing files, the throughput calculations are useful, especially with larger files. With smaller file sizes, however, much of the time taken is for directory creation, and this should be taken into consideration when trying to rationalize the results. Threads = 16, Levels = 3, Branches = 4, Files = 4 Directories to be written = 1344 Files to be written = 5376 ***** NetApp 840 ***** dirtest (writes hierarchy of directories containing files of specified length) File Length File Space Elapsed time Calculated (Bytes) (KBytes) (milliseconds) Throughput (KB/Sec) -------------- --------------- -------------- ---------- 2 10.5 4686 2 3 15.75 4669 3 4 21 4677 4 6 31.5 4707 6 8 42 4702 8 12 63 4691 13 16 84 4664 18 24 126 4723 26 32 168 4718 35 48 252 4813 52 64 336 4774 70 96 504 4864 103 128 672 4933 136 192 1008 4808 209 256 1344 4717 284 384 2016 5476 368 512 2688 4707 571 768 4032 4324 932 1024 5376 4350 1235 1536 8064 4583 1759 2048 10752 4742 2267 3072 16128 4937 3266 4096 21504 4977 4320 6144 32256 5108 6314 8192 43008 5343 8049 12288 64512 5922 10893 16384 86016 6232 13802 24576 129024 7238 17825 32768 172032 8814 19518 49152 258048 11369 22697 65536 344064 14061 24469 98304 516096 20652 24990 131072 688128 26487 25979 196608 1032192 38479 26824 262144 1376256 50039 27503 393216 2064384 74266 27797 524288 2752512 99089 27778 786432 4128768 146789 28127 1048576 5505024 195042 28224 1572864 8257536 291421 28335 readtest (reads what we just wrote with dirtest) File Length File Space Elapsed time Calculated (Bytes) (KBytes) (milliseconds) Throughput (KB/Sec) -------------- --------------- -------------- ---------- 2 10.5 3890 2 3 15.75 4383 3 4 21 4534 4 6 31.5 4673 6 8 42 4233 9 12 63 4527 13 16 84 4610 18 24 126 4784 26 32 168 4555 36 48 252 4405 57 64 336 4697 71 96 504 4847 103 128 672 4605 145 192 1008 4629 217 256 1344 4692 286 384 2016 4750 424 512 2688 4967 541 768 4032 5011 804 1024 5376 5203 1033 1536 8064 4961 1625 2048 10752 5100 2108 3072 16128 5193 3105 4096 21504 5221 4118 6144 32256 5455 5913 8192 43008 5582 7704 12288 64512 6254 10315 16384 86016 6822 12608 24576 129024 7434 17355 32768 172032 8044 21386 49152 258048 9970 25882 65536 344064 11594 29676 98304 516096 15185 33987 131072 688128 18721 36757 196608 1032192 26726 38621 262144 1376256 35415 38860 393216 2064384 52214 39536 524288 2752512 69109 39828 786432 4128768 102884 40130 1048576 5505024 136483 40334 1572864 8257536 204612 40357 ***** EMC Celerra ***** dirtest (writes directories and files) File Length File Space Elapsed time Calculated (Bytes) (KBytes) (milliseconds) Throughput (KB/Sec) -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 2 10.5 4872 2 3 15.75 4924 3 4 21 5271 3 6 31.5 5152 6 8 42 5168 8 12 63 5501 11 16 84 5460 15 24 126 5714 22 32 168 5584 30 48 252 5405 46 64 336 5770 58 96 504 5831 86 128 672 5923 113 192 1008 6466 155 256 1344 6009 223 384 2016 5897 341 512 2688 6142 437 768 4032 6137 656 1024 5376 5888 913 1536 8064 6177 1305 2048 10752 6135 1752 3072 16128 6315 2553 4096 21504 6469 3324 6144 32256 7139 4518 8192 43008 6730 6390 12288 64512 7764 8309 16384 86016 8384 10259 24576 129024 10431 12369 32768 172032 11049 15569 49152 258048 14560 17723 65536 344064 17897 19224 98304 516096 23960 21539 131072 688128 29263 23515 196608 1032192 42773 24131 262144 1376256 54041 25466 393216 2064384 97181 21242 524288 2752512 129826 21201 786432 4128768 240172 17190 1048576 5505024 310822 17711 1572864 8257536 454180 18181 readtest (reads what we just wrote with dirtest) File Length File Space Elapsed time Calculated (Bytes) (KBytes) (milliseconds) Throughput (KB/Sec) -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 2 10.5 4279 2 3 15.75 4247 3 4 21 4858 4 6 31.5 4899 6 8 42 5340 7 12 63 4724 13 16 84 5325 15 24 126 5410 23 32 168 5059 33 48 252 4888 51 64 336 5624 59 96 504 5265 95 128 672 5517 121 192 1008 5593 180 256 1344 5592 240 384 2016 5297 380 512 2688 5715 470 768 4032 6358 634 1024 5376 5333 1008 1536 8064 5348 1507 2048 10752 5526 1945 3072 16128 5592 2884 4096 21504 5617 3828 6144 32256 6289 5128 8192 43008 6055 7102 12288 64512 6368 10130 16384 86016 7624 11282 24576 129024 7738 16674 32768 172032 9099 18906 49152 258048 11597 22251 65536 344064 14100 24401 98304 516096 19976 25835 131072 688128 25949 26518 196608 1032192 41360 24956 262144 1376256 60134 22886 393216 2064384 111230 18559 524288 2752512 146978 18727 786432 4128768 230392 17920 1048576 5505024 307887 17880 1572864 8257536 457403 18053 -- Mark A Bentley Technology Development Group AT&T Wireless Services

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boot volume with no data
by neil lehrer 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

are there any particular advantages or disadvantages to just having ontap on vol0 and data on other volumes? -- regards

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RE: Anyone out there do backups via a share?
by Honeycutt, Michael 30 Sep '01

30 Sep '01

Well, I wasnt specifically referring to backups. However, I had problems sharing the snapshot dir as a hidden share for faster restores from snapshot. Sometimes it would work, sometimes it will not let you copy the file out with a share error. I had to stop the share and make it visible to get the restores to work correctly. -----Original Message----- From: Jordan Share [mailto:iso9@phantasticant.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:23 PM To: Honeycutt, Michael; Muhlestein, Mark; NetApp List Cc: Benn, Paul Subject: RE: Anyone out there do backups via a share? What do you mean by "share errors" ? I did one backup, and it seemed to go fine. Thanks, Jordan -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Honeycutt, Michael Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 5:10 AM To: 'Jordan Share'; Muhlestein, Mark; NetApp List Cc: Benn, Paul Subject: RE: Anyone out there do backups via a share? The only thing about sharing the snapshot is you may get share errors when trying to pull files out. Just an FYI! -----Original Message----- From: Jordan Share [mailto:iso9@phantasticant.com] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 6:26 PM To: Muhlestein, Mark; NetApp List Cc: Benn, Paul Subject: RE: Anyone out there do backups via a share? Super-sweet. Thanks very much for this pointer. I didn't realize you could create a share of a snapshot. I just did a trial run, and everything works smoothly. Oh, I did have to specify a user:password in the rsh command. This is not indicated in that URL that you sent. The URL only shows "rsh -l root filer-command-here", whereas I had to use "rsh -l root:password filer-command-here". Jordan -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Muhlestein, Mark Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 7:56 PM To: 'Jordan Share'; NetApp List Cc: Benn, Paul Subject: RE: Anyone out there do backups via a share? You should create a share on the snapshot. See the example in section 5 of http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3052.html Mark -----Original Message----- From: Jordan Share [mailto:iso9@phantasticant.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 5:58 PM To: NetApp List Subject: Anyone out there do backups via a share? So, does anyone out there do backups via a share? What I've been doing is mapping a drive to the appropriate place, then backing up from the ~snapshot/nightly.0/ directory. Then I found out that this is quite a pain to restore, since my backup software (Backup Exec) insists on either using an identical tree structure (which fails, because ~snapshot is read-only) or no tree structure at all (as far as I can tell). Is there a better way? It'd be sweet to be able to restore directly to the filer. :) The resources I have are: Treefrog tape library attached to Win2k box with Backup Exec 8.6 (with remote-server-backup license whatnot). Any ideas? I definitely can't use NDMP, or attach directly to the filer, because then we'd need another filer to restore to (which is not a viable option for us at this time. :( ) Thanks, Jordan

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Any Netapp Certified Tech guy out there need your inputs
by Manoj Kolekar 29 Sep '01

29 Sep '01

Hello Friends, I am planning to give the NSO300 Netapp Certification exams. Is there any tech guy who have completed the exams. I need info on the type of questions more details on the same. Thanks & Regards, Manoj kolekar

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