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Kinh moi tham du: Hoi cho thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung - Viet (27-30/3) tai China
by xttm＠china-vn.com 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

Moi chi tiet xin truy cap: http://www.china-vn.net/vn/vn Kinh moi tham du >>>> Hoi cho(Quang Tay) thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung Quoc-Viet Nam lan thu II Thoi gian to chuc : 27/03-30/03/2003 Dia diem: Dai Le Duong Nhan Dan tinh Quang Tay-Trung Quoc Du kien quy mo trien lam: 250 gian hang Don vi to chuc: Phan ban Quang Tay-Uy ban xuc tien thuong mai quoc te Trung Quoc Uy ban nhan dan tinh Quang Tay-Trung Quoc Cong ty co phan thuong mai & xuat nhap khau Quang Tay Cong ty trien lam kinh te thuong mai Hoan Cau Dong to chuc: Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (VCCI) Cong ty thuong mai & du lich quoc te Kim Lan-Trung Quoc Mang thong tin Trung-Viet: http://www.china-vn.net Uy ban xuc tien thuong mai quoc te Trung Quoc. Giay Moi Hoi cho(Quang Tay) thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung Quoc-Viet Nam lan thu II se to chuc vao ngay 27 - 30 thang 03 nam 2003 tai Dai Hoi Duong Nhan Dan tinh Quang Tay thanh pho Nam Ninh.Tinh Quang Tay TQ la mot hanh lang chinh cho cac doanh nghiep cac tinh noi dia Trung Quoc nhat la cac tinh ven bien Dong Nam Bo va cac tinh mien Bac TQ di vao thi truong cac nuoc ASEAN qua Viet Nam, tinh Quang Tay TQ cung da tro thanh dau cau cua Trung Quoc tien vao thi truong Dong Nam A. Sau khi gia nhap WTO va di doi voi su khoi dong cua mo hinh khu mau dich tu do Trung Quoc - ASEAN(10+1),khien cho vi the uu viet cua Quang Tay cang noi bat len. Cuoc hoi cho lan nay se to chuc voi ton chi la de phat huy day du vi the va uu viet ve tai yen cua Quang Tay, that chat hon nua moi quan he mau dich va hop tac kinh te giua hai nuoc Trung - Viet. Chung toi se het suc phuc vu tot cho cac vi quy khach Trung Quoc va Viet Nam den du Hoi cho nay va chung toi se cung cap day du dich vu nhu Quang cao hang xuat khau Viet Nam, xuc tien hop tac Trung-Viet, tim doi tac TQ cho Doanh nghiep Viet Nam, lap quan he voi Co quan chinh phu TQ cho DN Viet Nam, giup dai ly san pham, gioi thieu du an dau tu, tu van chinh sach kinh te ….Kinh moi ban cung nhau xay dung mot bac thang cho su hop tac va giao luu thuong mai giua hai nuoc Trung Quoc va Viet Nam. Noi dung trien lam: Cong nghiep: Thiet bi in an va dong goi, nguyen lieu va san pham cao su, giay, chat deo…, xe may & phu tung, cong cu gia dung, do dien gia dung…, Cac san pham cong nghe cao…. Nong nghiep: Nong lam dac san, giong cay trong, thiet bi co gioi nong nghiep, che bien & dong goi thuc pham va nong san; thuc an gia suc, phan bon hoa hoc, thuoc tru sau, thuc pham… Y te: Thiet bi y te, duoc pham va hoa chat… Che bien thuy hai san: Cong nghe va thiet bi che bien thuy hai san… Tieu thu cong nghiep: Cac mat hang thu cong my nghe, qua tang, do choi, cac san pham tong hop khac… Gioi thieu cac du an dau tu, giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet Lich hoi cho: Ngay 25 - 26/03/2003: Dang ky va bo tri gian hang Ngay 27 - 30/03/2003: Trien lam, hoi thao, khao sat thuc te Ngay 30/03/2003: Ket thuc trien lam Hinh thuc tham gia: 1. Thue gian hang: Chi phi thue gian hang:600USD/mot gian Tieu chuan gian hang: 3m X 2m = 6m2 , bao gom: Dat thue, vach ngan, tham trai san, 01 o cam dien 13A-220V, 01 ban 02 ghe, bieu hieu cong ty bang tieng Viet hoac tieng Trung. Quang cao trong Show Catalogue: 200USD/trang mau trang trong. Phi van chuyen tu Ha Noi den cua khau Huu Nghi Quan:200USD/luot/xe tai 5 tan(chia binh quan cho tat ca cac doanh nghiep tham du co chuyen hang), phi boc hang se tinh rieng theo trung loai va so luong hang hoa. Cuoc phi van chuyen hang hoa tu Huu Nghi Quan - Nam Ninh:150USD/luot/xe tai 5 tan, phi boc hang se tinh rieng theo trung loai va so luong hang hoa. Chuong tirnh danh cho nguoi dai bieu tham gia trung bay tai Hoi cho: 24/03: Ha Noi 15:00, cac dai bieu tap trung va hop doan tai Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (Dia chi:33 Ba Trieu Ha Noi), pho bien chuong trinh.(Chi phi an nghi, phuong tien di lai do dai bieu tu lo trong ngay nay); 25/03: Ha Noi - Nam Ninh 06h00 tap trung tai Phong Cong nghiep va thuong mai Viet Nam(VCCI) theo dia chi: 33-Ba Trieu-Ha Noi (Nga tu duong Ly Thuong Kiet va Ba Trieu), Ban to chuc don dai bieu xuat phat len Huu Nghi Quan lam thu tuc nhap canh Trung Quoc, len tau hoa di Nam Ninh, an nghi tai Nam Ninh. 26/03: Nam Ninh Ca ngay trang tri, dan dung gian hang. 27/03: Nam Ninh Khai mac Hoi cho, giao dich thuong mai giua doanh nghiep Trung Quoc -Viet Nam. Chieu tham du Hoi nghi giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet, toi du tiec chieu dai cua ban to chuc va Uy ban tinh Quang Tay. 28/03: Nam Ninh Trung bay hang hoa tai trien lam hoac du hoi thao theo cac chuyen de: "Trung Quoc-Viet Nam tiem nang va che bien nong san & thuc pham" "Thiet bi va cong nghe moi ve bao quan va che bien nong san & thuc pham", khao sat Vuon nong nghiep hien dai Quang Tay, Tham quan Khu cong nghe cao va moi thanh pho Nam Ninh. 29/03:Nam Ninh Trung bay hang hoa tai trien lam hoac du Hoi thao: "Hinh thuc thanh toan an toan trong thuong mai Trung - Viet", Khao sat va lam viec, tiep xuc tu do voi cac doi tac tiem nang Trung Quoc. 30/03:Nam Ninh - Ha Noi Sau khi an sang, di tau hoa ve Bang Tuong, chieu cac dai bieu xuat canh Trung Quoc ve Viet Nam, den Ha Noi, ket thuc chuong trinh.(Khang tu lo an toi va nghi khach san trong ngay nay). Chi phi: 265USD/Dai bieu Chi phi bao gom: Khach san 3 sao, an nghi, xe dua don theo chuong trinh, phi du trien lam va Hoi thao, phien dich chung ca doan. Chi phi khong gom: Ho chieu va Visa nhap canh TQ. Neu dai bieu di bang giay thong hanh phat sinh them 35USD/dai bieu. 2. Tham gia trien lam nhung khong thue gian hang Chuong trinh danh cho nguoi dai bieu tham gia trien lam nhung khong thue gian hang: 25/03: Ha Noi 15:00, cac dai bieu tap trung va hop doan tai Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (Dia chi:33 Ba Trieu Ha Noi), pho bien chuong trinh.(Chi phi an nghi, phuong tien di lai do dai bieu tu lo trong ngay nay); 26/03: Ha Noi - Nam Ninh 06h00 tap trung tai Phong cong nghiep va thuong mai Viet Nam (VCCI) theo dia chi: 33-Ba Trieu-Ha Noi (Nga tu duong Ly Thuong Kiet va Ba Trieu), Ban to chuc don dai bieu xuat phat len Huu Nghi Quan lam thu tuc nhap canh Trung Quoc, len tau hoa di Nam Ninh, an nghi tai Nam Ninh. 27/03: Nam Ninh Khai mac Hoi cho, giao dich thuong mai giua doanh nghiep Trung Quoc -Viet Nam. Chieu khai mac Hoi nghi giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet, toi du tiec chieu dai cua ban to chuc va Uy ban tinh Quang Tay. 28/03: Nam Ninh Tham gia trien lam hoac du hoi thao theo cac chuyen de: "Trung Quoc-Viet Nam tiem nang va che bien nong san & thuc pham" "Thiet bi va cong nghe moi ve bao quan va che bien nong san & thuc pham", khao sat Vuon nong nghiep hien dai Quang Tay, Tham quan Khu cong nghe cao va moi thanh pho Nam Ninh. 29/03: Nam Ninh Tham gia trien lam hoac du Hoi thao: "Hinh thuc thanh toan an toan trong thuong mai Trung - Viet", Khao sat va lam viec, tiep xuc tu do voi cac doi tac tiem nang Trung Quoc. 30/03:Nam Ninh - Ha Noi Sau khi an sang, di tau hoa ve Bang Tuong, chieu cac dai bieu xuat canh Trung Quoc ve Viet Nam, den Ha Noi, ket thuc chuong trinh.(Khang tu lo an toi va nghi khach san trong ngay nay). Chi phi:250USD/Dai bieu Chi phi bao gom: Khach san 3 sao, an nghi, xe dua don theo chuong trinh, phi du trien lam va Hoi thao, phien dich chung ca doan. Chi phi khong gom: Ho chieu va Visa nhap canh TQ. Neu dai bieu di bang giay thong hanh phat sinh them 35USD/dai bieu. Ghi chu: Neu co dai bieu yeu cau di them khao sat tai Que Lam thi chuong trinh se phai them 2 ngay nua so voi cac chuong trinh tren, chi phi phat sinh them 100USD/Dai bieu. Thu tuc dang ky: 1. Doanh nghiep gui ban dang ky fax cung voi 50% tien dat coc bang tien mat hoac dien chuyen tien toi: Cong ty dich vu va thuong mai TSC -Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam Tai khoan tien VND:0021000001059 Tai khoan tien USD:00211370021623 Ngan hang ngoai thuong Ha Noi (VIETCOMBANK HANOI) 2. So tien con lai thanh toan 10 ngay truoc ngay khoi hanh. Quyen loi cua cac don vi tham gia trung bay tai trien lam: - Tham gia vao cac Hoi thao, hoi nghi to chuc trong thoi gian Hoi cho. - Gioi thieu trong cuon Catalogue chinh thuc cua Hoi cho bang tieng Trung, an pham nay se duoc phat mien phi cho khach tham quan Hoi cho va cac moi gioi khac. - Dam bao ve sinh chung trong khu hoi cho. - Ban ve an toan hang hoa trung bay ngoai gio mo cua cua hoi cho trien lam. - Dan dung va thao do gian hang trong truong hop thue gian hang tron goi. Cac dich vu nha to chuc ho tro cac don vi tham gia(co thu phi) - Van tai va tam nhap tai xuat hang trien lam. - In quang cao theo thiet ke rieng trong cuon Catalogue hoi cho. - To chuc cac hoi thao chuyen de, gioi thieu san pham va dich vu rieng. - Cung cap phien dich rieng theo yeu cau:20USD/buoi(4 tieng), 30USD/ngy(8 tieng), ngoai gio 10USD/tieng dong ho. - Thiet ke va dan dung cac gian hang dac biet, cho thue thiet ke gian gang. - Cung cap cac dich vu in an, cac san pham quang cao rieng. Ho tro cua Ban to chuc danh cho cac don vi: - Ban to chuc se ho tro 10% chi phi thue gian hang cho cac don vi cua Viet Nam, 15% phi thue gian hang cho doanh nghiep la hoi vien cua Cty Thang Loi - Hoi dong lien minh hop tac xa Viet Nam. Moi dang ky phai duoc thuc hien truoc ngay 17/02/2003. - Tat ca hang hoa trung bay trien lam se duoc mien thue hai quan Trung Quoc (ngoai ra mot so hang hoa dac biet) voi so luong khong han che nhung phai duoc su dong y cua Ban to chuc. - Doi voi cac doanh nghiep khong thue gian hang, Ban to chuc se bo tri mot phong trung bay chung mien phi Catalongue va mot so hang mau cua doanh nghiep trong thoi gian Hoi cho. - Tat ca cac doanh nghiep Viet nam tham gia Hoi cho deu duoc mien phi thong tin co ban cua doanh nghiep trong vong 1 nam tren trang tieng Trung cua Mang thong tin Trung-Viet: http://ww.china-vn.net de nham tao them co hoi tiep tan lau dai voi thi truong TQ. - Mien phi mot quyen Catalogue chinh thuc cua Hoi cho cho moi donh nghiep Viet Nam co tham gia Hoi cho. - Gioi thieu mien phi doi tac tiem nang tai Trung Quoc khi doanh nghiep Viet Nam co yeu cau va dang ky truoc 15 ngay tro len. Nhung thong tin can biet khi tham gia Hoi cho: - Tat ca hang hoa trung bay trien lam deu phai chuyen toi Ha Noi truoc ngay 10/03/2003 de Ban to chuc nhan hang tai Ha Noi va tap trung lam thu tuc hai quan Trung Quoc, qua han tren, Ban to chuc se khong chiu trach nhiem ve thu tuc hai quan. (Luu y: cac doanh nghiep tu chiu chi phi van chuyen len cua khau, va tu lam cac thu tuc hai quan Viet Nam).Cac don vi cung cap cho BTC danh muc hang hoa(Packing List) trung bay trine lam truoc 28/02/2003 gom co: Ten don vi tham gia trien lam, ten hang , so luong, noi xuat xung, don gia, kich co,trong luong, hinh thuc dong goi, so luong kien, so luong hang can tro ve VN sau hoi cho. - Doi voi cac dai bieu tham gia khao sat Hoi cho (khong thue gian hang), de nghi dang ky va nop ho so, danh sach day du theo yeu cau cua Ban to chuc truoc ngay 28/02/2003. - Cac dai bieu VN co the nhap canh Trung Quoc bang ho chieu + visa (khach tu lo).Trong truong hop hop khong kip xin cap ho chieu hoac Visa thi co the nhap canh TQ bang giay thong hanh do Ban to chuc tap trung xin thu tuc tai Viet Nam va Trung Quoc. Tuy nhien thu tuc nay chi co duoc phep thong hanh trong tinh Quang Tay TQ, ma khong duoc di vuot qua dia phan tinh Quang Tay-TQ voi thoi gian co gia tri trong 8 ngay. Neu co nhu cau can sang cac tinh khac cua TQ trong chuyen di bang giay thong hanh thi phai bao truoc cho Ban to chuc de giup do thu tuc. - Cac dai bieu xuat nhap canh bang giay thong hanh nop cho BTC 04 anh mau 3X4 va 02 chung minh thu Phto it nhat 10 ngay truoc khi xuat canh. - Cac doanh nghiep muon duoc gioi thieu mien phi khach hang tiem nang TQ hoac dang tai thong tin tren Mang thong tin Trung -Viet www.china-vn.net , de nghi gui truoc 10 ngay cac thong tin co noi dung gom: ten doanh nghiep, dia chi thong tin, Tel,Fax,E-mail,Website, so luoc doanh nghiep, thong tin san pham, can mua va can ban, muc dich chuyen di… cho Ban to chuc bang tieng Viet hoac Trung (Khong qua 1000 tu). Moi chi tiet xin lien he: Hoac lien he truc tiep voi chung toi: + Ban to chuc Hoi cho: Dia chi:18 ngo Nam Nhat Ly, duong Tinh Ho, T.P Nam Ninh Tel:0086-771-2615157 Fax:0086-771-2630917 E-mail: xttm(a)china-vn.com Website: www.china-vn.net Nguoi lien he: Mr. Hai , Mr. Luc + Dai dien Ban to chuc tai Viet Nam: Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam Trung tam giao dich quoc te TSC Dia chi:33 - Ba Trieu - Hoan Kiem- Ha Noi- Viet Nam Tel:04.9360134 Fax:04.9360103 E-mail: vcciglobexpo(a)hn.vnn.vn Nguoi lien he: Mr:Hung Mobi:0913367082 Cong ty thuong mai & du lich quoc te Kim Lan-Quang Tay- Trung Quoc Trung tam xuc tien thuong mai Trung - Viet Van phong dai dien tai Ha Noi DC: 204 Pho Duc Chinh-Ba Dinh-Ha Noi Tel: 04-9273335 Fax: 04-9273335 E-mail: kimlanhanoi(a)fpt.vn Nguoi lien he: Mr.Bach - Mobi: 0912118616 Moi chi tiet xin truy cap: http://www.china-vn.net/vn/vn

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Anybody do any tests of performance increase by adding disks to a volume?
by Art Hebert 02 May '02

02 May '02

We currently have a couple of Netapp 760 each with a 7x18gb shelf in a cluster config. The best performance we can get out of this is about 10MB writes. So we decided to test out what a gig card would do for us and the best we could get was 16MB writes and 30MB reads. In terms of testing the number of disks in a volume we saw an increase in performance by using a 7disk volume as opposed to a 3 disk volume, but surprisingly we didn't see a substantial increase when we went to 14 disks in a volume. So have any of you been able to test and justify using 14 disks as opposed to 7 disks in a volume? Have any of you been able to get better than 16MB writes? It also doesn't seem to benefit by having one shelf on one FC-AL card and another shelf on another FC-AL card? It seems the entire performance from what I can tell is limited by the nvram size. (16MB, half of 32MB nvram), thoughts? We have determined its not the gig cards in our suns that is limiting it as we can get 100MB sun gig card to sun gig card. Thanks Art Hebert Email: art(a)arzoon.com <mailto:art@arzoon.com> Arzoon IT Dept. Phone: 650 522-6061 Mobile: 650 444-8667

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Multistore/vfiler experiences?
by Brian Tao 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

Does anyone have any real-world experience with vfilers (the "MultiStore" capability in 6.2) they can share? I have an opportunity to consolidate a bunch of older F740s onto a pair of clustered F840s, but I'm not sure about putting all my eggs (well, half my eggs) into one basket. It isn't quite possible to get 100% availability with Netapps yet, and it's been nice in the past having a handful of discrete clustered F740 systems for limiting the effect of downtime. The vfiler stuff looks intriguing, though... -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"

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Amazon gift certificate
by Maglinger, Paul 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

I did a survey for NetApps and got an email from Amazon saying I had a gift certificate but it was blank. Anybody else run into this? Remember, you are unique... just like everyone else! Paul Maglinger, A+, CA, CET, MCSE Systems Administrator Shoe Carnival Inc. (812)867-4674 pmaglinger(a)scvl.com

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Filer Storage Charge Back?
by Infantino, Vincent (Exchange) 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

Are there any good utilities (other than quota reports) that NetApp provides or any recommended 3rd Party application that can be used to create a monthly charge back report based on storage allocated to a particular user? Vinny *********************************************************************** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ***********************************************************************

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Filer takeover
by Jose Celestino 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

Hello, I fail to understand the following sentence: "When you configure virtual interfaces for takeover, you must specify the interface name and not the IP address." I have one vif in each filer, separate ones, trunk1=192.168.1.103 on 1st filer and trunk1=192.168.1.104 on 2nd filer. Does the previous sentence mean I have to put: ifconfig trunk1 192.168.1.103 mediatype 100tx-fd partner trunk1 ? That doesn't make much sense. Tried also ifconfig trunk1 192.168.1.103 mediatype 100tx-fd partner 192.168.1.104 but keep getting partner 192.168.1.104 (not in use). TIA. -- Jose Celestino <japc(a)co.sapo.pt> Systems::SAPO.pt http://www.sapo.pt --------------------------------------------------------------------- Titanic 1912 / Hindenburg Zeppelin 1937 / Microsoft Windows 2000 OpenBSD claudia 3.0 GENERIC#94 i386

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RE: Tape drive recommendations
by Peter Bryant 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

*** Before acting on this e-mail or opening any attachment you are advised to read the disclaimer at the end of this e-mail *** Whilst it's not here yet, decision making should allow for O-MASS technology that should be out (first generation) in 2003. This is a step change that I've been waiting about 18 months for * tape is much shorter therefore read times much faster * silicon head gives much closer tracks (and is less susceptible to alignment errors due to heat expansion) * tape is native 600GB capacity * 64MB per second transfer * third generation product is predicted at 2.4TB per tape, and 256MB per second <g> Obviously still to get here, but if (like me) you have a large DLT platform and were thinking of using SDLT as a compatible upgrade, it might be worth hanging on with DLT8000 drives, and change to O-MASS in a year or two. Have a look here: http://www.tandberg.com/o-mass/ Peter -----Original Message----- From: Ben Rockwood [mailto:BRockwood@homestead-inc.com] Sent: 25 April 2002 22:53 To: Jeff Kennedy; dwald(a)kersey.yi.org Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Tape drive recommendations I can't resist to step in here. The battle of the tape format is continuing day by day. Many vendors are pushing people away from current DLT technology saying it's doomed, and that AIT isn't far behind. The big pushes are on LTO's and newer drives. I've had my eye on StorageTek for awhile now because they are doing some really neat things, namely FC to the drive in their T9840B drive. The T9940's are nice two with 60G native and 120G 2:1 compressed. But then it all comes down to your stratagy. If you have a small enviroment and you only want to back up, say 1-2TB, then you might like some of the 20slot AIT2/3 arrays from ADIC. SDLT is looking good with native capacities for 110G and higher with compression plus descent speed, however a key factor between DLT and AIT right now is also physical size. If you have a cramped facility you may not have adiquate room for DLT robots, which is where the nice and tiny AITs are handy. There are alot of choices. Currently I'm still liking LTO because it has 15MB/sec sustained rates per drive plus a 100G native capacity, but right now it probly comes down to cost more than anything. In which case, if you buy a robot, buy bigger than you need to so you can scale later. As for which is best specifically for a Filer, I know that you supposedly can put a robot directly onto a head, but I haven't seen anyone do it, and probly would opt to use a seperate gig-network with a dedicated backup server and anything I wanted on the back end of it. Maybe that helps. I hope. Ben Rockwood -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Kennedy [mailto:jlkennedy@amcc.com] Sent: Thu 4/25/2002 6:26 AM To: dwald(a)kersey.yi.org Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Tape drive recommendations Here are my thoughts: AIT: pros: Great product, nice access time due to the embedded chip, best choice for nearline tape storage, small footprint cons: only media supplier is Sony, the rest are just re-sellers (chances are they aren't going anywhere but you never know) SDLT: pros: Long track record, can read older DLT media (if BRC drive), supported by everyone cons: potential for mixing media LTO: not a big fan of LTO, thought it would be great in the beginning but the "unified format" fractured long before I thought it would. ~JK dwald(a)kersey.yi.org wrote: > > Hi all. > > We've been using DLT7000 drives off the back of our 740's for some > time now, and are looking to upgrade. > > According to the NOW site, NetApps supports the SuperDL220, AIT-3 and > some of the LTO's, among others. > > Capacity and throughput are somewhat close across the three types, I'm > curious for any thoughts on which is preferred? Any horror stories on > any of these with Filers? > > Thanks -- ===================== Jeff Kennedy Unix Administrator AMCC jlkennedy(a)amcc.com ******************************* Disclaimer ***************************** Confidentiality: This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this e-mail and highlight the error. Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. ********************** http://www.burallplastec.com ********************

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Re: Request for Input on Independant Filer tools
by Alek O. Komarnitsky (N-CSC) 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

> From owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com Thu Apr 25 18:03 MDT 2002 > > Hello Mighty Toasters, > > As some may have noticed recently, I've become very interested in > monitoring tool development for the filers. I've recently had > a minor breakthrough using SNMP tables and mutli-dimensional arrays > in PERL. This is particularly interesting because it gives > me the ability to develope tools that can run sorts on the raid tables, > disk usage tables, and more. > > Here's the problem, most of the tools I'm building now have little to no value. > They are amusing and fun to write, but especially if you use FilerView these tools are useless. While this is a credit to NetApp, I'm curious if there are any tools people would like to see. > > What types of monitoring tools would you guys like to see? Performance > tools are pretty well taken care of with MRTG and Cricket, though it would > be fairly simple to use an snmp polling loop to drop files into either a > MySQL/PostGreSQL backend or maybe just a BerkleyDB and then run GNUplot on > 'em for a more simplified Cricket replacement, but since Cricket is so trusted > it's unlikely for any of my tools be replace it. > > In essence, I've solved the problems I need to solve and now what to find > some way to use all the kool tricks I've learned in the proccess. Ideas? > > If nothing else, I'm hoping to write an article soon about how to easily > develop your own in-house tools for the Filers, which is probly the most > useful thing I could do. > > Thanx in advance. > > Ben Rockwood It's not very high-tech, but I think syslog analysis from any machines (including filers) can by QUITE helpful. Simply centrally logging events, using a log-parsing tool such as Swatch, and then appplying appropriate filtering rules over time results in a pretty decent signal-noise ratio of "significant" events that merit watching. You still need some other stuff (ex: simple remote monitoring via ping/CIFS/NFS functionality), and doesn't help you too much in the performance area, but syslog is good stuff IMHO. alek P.S. Here's a presentation on using Swatch: http://www.komar.org/ -> Misc. Tech Stuff -> Swatch

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RE: Backups to 6 tapes failing
by Clawson, Simon 26 Apr '02

26 Apr '02

I dont think Multiplexing is on. I will check. Its a 7 slot robot with 1 drive. Simon -----Original Message----- From: Ben Rockwood [mailto:BRockwood@homestead-inc.com] Sent: 25 April 2002 22:39 To: Clawson, Simon Subject: RE: Backups to 6 tapes failing Just a thought, is it maybe a mutliplexing issue? Do you have mutliplexing turned on or off? Off is probly best. And when you say "slot" I assume you actually me drive? Or do you have a robot with only 1 drive and 7 tapes? Maybe you could mention which type of robot it is? Almost sounds like a L280. benr. -----Original Message----- From: Clawson, Simon [mailto:simon_clawson@mentorg.com] Sent: Thu 4/25/2002 1:38 AM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Cc: Subject: Backups to 6 tapes failing Hi! We are using Veritas Netbackup Datacenter to backup a filer running 5.3R2 to a DLT 4700 7 slot device. I am seeing a backup on one volume to 3 tapes working fine, but a backup to more than 4 tapes seems to fail. The backup runs and selects tape 6, tape 5, tape 4 and tape 1, missing tapes 3 & 2. It will then time out and error saying cannot allocate new media. Has anyone else seen this behaviour? Simon Simon Clawson TEL:- +44 (0)1635 811409 HDL Designer Series Team Systems Administrator FAX:- +44 (0)1635 810108 Mentor Graphics Ireland Ltd (UK Branch) MOB:- +44 (0)7788 716071 Rivergate London Road Newbury Berkshire RG14 2QB

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Request for Input on Independant Filer tools
by Ben Rockwood 25 Apr '02

25 Apr '02

Hello Mighty Toasters, As some may have noticed recently, I've become very interested in monitoring tool development for the filers. I've recently had a minor breakthrough using SNMP tables and mutli-dimensional arrays in PERL. This is particularly interesting because it gives me the ability to develope tools that can run sorts on the raid tables, disk usage tables, and more. Here's the problem, most of the tools I'm building now have little to no value. They are amusing and fun to write, but especially if you use FilerView these tools are useless. While this is a credit to NetApp, I'm curious if there are any tools people would like to see. What types of monitoring tools would you guys like to see? Performance tools are pretty well taken care of with MRTG and Cricket, though it would be fairly simple to use an snmp polling loop to drop files into either a MySQL/PostGreSQL backend or maybe just a BerkleyDB and then run GNUplot on 'em for a more simplified Cricket replacement, but since Cricket is so trusted it's unlikely for any of my tools be replace it. In essence, I've solved the problems I need to solve and now what to find some way to use all the kool tricks I've learned in the proccess. Ideas? If nothing else, I'm hoping to write an article soon about how to easily develop your own in-house tools for the Filers, which is probly the most useful thing I could do. Thanx in advance. Ben Rockwood

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