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Kinh moi tham du: Hoi cho thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung - Viet (27-30/3) tai China
by xttm＠china-vn.com 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

Moi chi tiet xin truy cap: http://www.china-vn.net/vn/vn Kinh moi tham du >>>> Hoi cho(Quang Tay) thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung Quoc-Viet Nam lan thu II Thoi gian to chuc : 27/03-30/03/2003 Dia diem: Dai Le Duong Nhan Dan tinh Quang Tay-Trung Quoc Du kien quy mo trien lam: 250 gian hang Don vi to chuc: Phan ban Quang Tay-Uy ban xuc tien thuong mai quoc te Trung Quoc Uy ban nhan dan tinh Quang Tay-Trung Quoc Cong ty co phan thuong mai & xuat nhap khau Quang Tay Cong ty trien lam kinh te thuong mai Hoan Cau Dong to chuc: Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (VCCI) Cong ty thuong mai & du lich quoc te Kim Lan-Trung Quoc Mang thong tin Trung-Viet: http://www.china-vn.net Uy ban xuc tien thuong mai quoc te Trung Quoc. Giay Moi Hoi cho(Quang Tay) thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung Quoc-Viet Nam lan thu II se to chuc vao ngay 27 - 30 thang 03 nam 2003 tai Dai Hoi Duong Nhan Dan tinh Quang Tay thanh pho Nam Ninh.Tinh Quang Tay TQ la mot hanh lang chinh cho cac doanh nghiep cac tinh noi dia Trung Quoc nhat la cac tinh ven bien Dong Nam Bo va cac tinh mien Bac TQ di vao thi truong cac nuoc ASEAN qua Viet Nam, tinh Quang Tay TQ cung da tro thanh dau cau cua Trung Quoc tien vao thi truong Dong Nam A. Sau khi gia nhap WTO va di doi voi su khoi dong cua mo hinh khu mau dich tu do Trung Quoc - ASEAN(10+1),khien cho vi the uu viet cua Quang Tay cang noi bat len. Cuoc hoi cho lan nay se to chuc voi ton chi la de phat huy day du vi the va uu viet ve tai yen cua Quang Tay, that chat hon nua moi quan he mau dich va hop tac kinh te giua hai nuoc Trung - Viet. Chung toi se het suc phuc vu tot cho cac vi quy khach Trung Quoc va Viet Nam den du Hoi cho nay va chung toi se cung cap day du dich vu nhu Quang cao hang xuat khau Viet Nam, xuc tien hop tac Trung-Viet, tim doi tac TQ cho Doanh nghiep Viet Nam, lap quan he voi Co quan chinh phu TQ cho DN Viet Nam, giup dai ly san pham, gioi thieu du an dau tu, tu van chinh sach kinh te ….Kinh moi ban cung nhau xay dung mot bac thang cho su hop tac va giao luu thuong mai giua hai nuoc Trung Quoc va Viet Nam. Noi dung trien lam: Cong nghiep: Thiet bi in an va dong goi, nguyen lieu va san pham cao su, giay, chat deo…, xe may & phu tung, cong cu gia dung, do dien gia dung…, Cac san pham cong nghe cao…. Nong nghiep: Nong lam dac san, giong cay trong, thiet bi co gioi nong nghiep, che bien & dong goi thuc pham va nong san; thuc an gia suc, phan bon hoa hoc, thuoc tru sau, thuc pham… Y te: Thiet bi y te, duoc pham va hoa chat… Che bien thuy hai san: Cong nghe va thiet bi che bien thuy hai san… Tieu thu cong nghiep: Cac mat hang thu cong my nghe, qua tang, do choi, cac san pham tong hop khac… Gioi thieu cac du an dau tu, giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet Lich hoi cho: Ngay 25 - 26/03/2003: Dang ky va bo tri gian hang Ngay 27 - 30/03/2003: Trien lam, hoi thao, khao sat thuc te Ngay 30/03/2003: Ket thuc trien lam Hinh thuc tham gia: 1. Thue gian hang: Chi phi thue gian hang:600USD/mot gian Tieu chuan gian hang: 3m X 2m = 6m2 , bao gom: Dat thue, vach ngan, tham trai san, 01 o cam dien 13A-220V, 01 ban 02 ghe, bieu hieu cong ty bang tieng Viet hoac tieng Trung. Quang cao trong Show Catalogue: 200USD/trang mau trang trong. Phi van chuyen tu Ha Noi den cua khau Huu Nghi Quan:200USD/luot/xe tai 5 tan(chia binh quan cho tat ca cac doanh nghiep tham du co chuyen hang), phi boc hang se tinh rieng theo trung loai va so luong hang hoa. Cuoc phi van chuyen hang hoa tu Huu Nghi Quan - Nam Ninh:150USD/luot/xe tai 5 tan, phi boc hang se tinh rieng theo trung loai va so luong hang hoa. Chuong tirnh danh cho nguoi dai bieu tham gia trung bay tai Hoi cho: 24/03: Ha Noi 15:00, cac dai bieu tap trung va hop doan tai Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (Dia chi:33 Ba Trieu Ha Noi), pho bien chuong trinh.(Chi phi an nghi, phuong tien di lai do dai bieu tu lo trong ngay nay); 25/03: Ha Noi - Nam Ninh 06h00 tap trung tai Phong Cong nghiep va thuong mai Viet Nam(VCCI) theo dia chi: 33-Ba Trieu-Ha Noi (Nga tu duong Ly Thuong Kiet va Ba Trieu), Ban to chuc don dai bieu xuat phat len Huu Nghi Quan lam thu tuc nhap canh Trung Quoc, len tau hoa di Nam Ninh, an nghi tai Nam Ninh. 26/03: Nam Ninh Ca ngay trang tri, dan dung gian hang. 27/03: Nam Ninh Khai mac Hoi cho, giao dich thuong mai giua doanh nghiep Trung Quoc -Viet Nam. Chieu tham du Hoi nghi giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet, toi du tiec chieu dai cua ban to chuc va Uy ban tinh Quang Tay. 28/03: Nam Ninh Trung bay hang hoa tai trien lam hoac du hoi thao theo cac chuyen de: "Trung Quoc-Viet Nam tiem nang va che bien nong san & thuc pham" "Thiet bi va cong nghe moi ve bao quan va che bien nong san & thuc pham", khao sat Vuon nong nghiep hien dai Quang Tay, Tham quan Khu cong nghe cao va moi thanh pho Nam Ninh. 29/03:Nam Ninh Trung bay hang hoa tai trien lam hoac du Hoi thao: "Hinh thuc thanh toan an toan trong thuong mai Trung - Viet", Khao sat va lam viec, tiep xuc tu do voi cac doi tac tiem nang Trung Quoc. 30/03:Nam Ninh - Ha Noi Sau khi an sang, di tau hoa ve Bang Tuong, chieu cac dai bieu xuat canh Trung Quoc ve Viet Nam, den Ha Noi, ket thuc chuong trinh.(Khang tu lo an toi va nghi khach san trong ngay nay). Chi phi: 265USD/Dai bieu Chi phi bao gom: Khach san 3 sao, an nghi, xe dua don theo chuong trinh, phi du trien lam va Hoi thao, phien dich chung ca doan. Chi phi khong gom: Ho chieu va Visa nhap canh TQ. Neu dai bieu di bang giay thong hanh phat sinh them 35USD/dai bieu. 2. Tham gia trien lam nhung khong thue gian hang Chuong trinh danh cho nguoi dai bieu tham gia trien lam nhung khong thue gian hang: 25/03: Ha Noi 15:00, cac dai bieu tap trung va hop doan tai Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (Dia chi:33 Ba Trieu Ha Noi), pho bien chuong trinh.(Chi phi an nghi, phuong tien di lai do dai bieu tu lo trong ngay nay); 26/03: Ha Noi - Nam Ninh 06h00 tap trung tai Phong cong nghiep va thuong mai Viet Nam (VCCI) theo dia chi: 33-Ba Trieu-Ha Noi (Nga tu duong Ly Thuong Kiet va Ba Trieu), Ban to chuc don dai bieu xuat phat len Huu Nghi Quan lam thu tuc nhap canh Trung Quoc, len tau hoa di Nam Ninh, an nghi tai Nam Ninh. 27/03: Nam Ninh Khai mac Hoi cho, giao dich thuong mai giua doanh nghiep Trung Quoc -Viet Nam. Chieu khai mac Hoi nghi giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet, toi du tiec chieu dai cua ban to chuc va Uy ban tinh Quang Tay. 28/03: Nam Ninh Tham gia trien lam hoac du hoi thao theo cac chuyen de: "Trung Quoc-Viet Nam tiem nang va che bien nong san & thuc pham" "Thiet bi va cong nghe moi ve bao quan va che bien nong san & thuc pham", khao sat Vuon nong nghiep hien dai Quang Tay, Tham quan Khu cong nghe cao va moi thanh pho Nam Ninh. 29/03: Nam Ninh Tham gia trien lam hoac du Hoi thao: "Hinh thuc thanh toan an toan trong thuong mai Trung - Viet", Khao sat va lam viec, tiep xuc tu do voi cac doi tac tiem nang Trung Quoc. 30/03:Nam Ninh - Ha Noi Sau khi an sang, di tau hoa ve Bang Tuong, chieu cac dai bieu xuat canh Trung Quoc ve Viet Nam, den Ha Noi, ket thuc chuong trinh.(Khang tu lo an toi va nghi khach san trong ngay nay). Chi phi:250USD/Dai bieu Chi phi bao gom: Khach san 3 sao, an nghi, xe dua don theo chuong trinh, phi du trien lam va Hoi thao, phien dich chung ca doan. Chi phi khong gom: Ho chieu va Visa nhap canh TQ. Neu dai bieu di bang giay thong hanh phat sinh them 35USD/dai bieu. Ghi chu: Neu co dai bieu yeu cau di them khao sat tai Que Lam thi chuong trinh se phai them 2 ngay nua so voi cac chuong trinh tren, chi phi phat sinh them 100USD/Dai bieu. Thu tuc dang ky: 1. Doanh nghiep gui ban dang ky fax cung voi 50% tien dat coc bang tien mat hoac dien chuyen tien toi: Cong ty dich vu va thuong mai TSC -Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam Tai khoan tien VND:0021000001059 Tai khoan tien USD:00211370021623 Ngan hang ngoai thuong Ha Noi (VIETCOMBANK HANOI) 2. So tien con lai thanh toan 10 ngay truoc ngay khoi hanh. Quyen loi cua cac don vi tham gia trung bay tai trien lam: - Tham gia vao cac Hoi thao, hoi nghi to chuc trong thoi gian Hoi cho. - Gioi thieu trong cuon Catalogue chinh thuc cua Hoi cho bang tieng Trung, an pham nay se duoc phat mien phi cho khach tham quan Hoi cho va cac moi gioi khac. - Dam bao ve sinh chung trong khu hoi cho. - Ban ve an toan hang hoa trung bay ngoai gio mo cua cua hoi cho trien lam. - Dan dung va thao do gian hang trong truong hop thue gian hang tron goi. Cac dich vu nha to chuc ho tro cac don vi tham gia(co thu phi) - Van tai va tam nhap tai xuat hang trien lam. - In quang cao theo thiet ke rieng trong cuon Catalogue hoi cho. - To chuc cac hoi thao chuyen de, gioi thieu san pham va dich vu rieng. - Cung cap phien dich rieng theo yeu cau:20USD/buoi(4 tieng), 30USD/ngy(8 tieng), ngoai gio 10USD/tieng dong ho. - Thiet ke va dan dung cac gian hang dac biet, cho thue thiet ke gian gang. - Cung cap cac dich vu in an, cac san pham quang cao rieng. Ho tro cua Ban to chuc danh cho cac don vi: - Ban to chuc se ho tro 10% chi phi thue gian hang cho cac don vi cua Viet Nam, 15% phi thue gian hang cho doanh nghiep la hoi vien cua Cty Thang Loi - Hoi dong lien minh hop tac xa Viet Nam. Moi dang ky phai duoc thuc hien truoc ngay 17/02/2003. - Tat ca hang hoa trung bay trien lam se duoc mien thue hai quan Trung Quoc (ngoai ra mot so hang hoa dac biet) voi so luong khong han che nhung phai duoc su dong y cua Ban to chuc. - Doi voi cac doanh nghiep khong thue gian hang, Ban to chuc se bo tri mot phong trung bay chung mien phi Catalongue va mot so hang mau cua doanh nghiep trong thoi gian Hoi cho. - Tat ca cac doanh nghiep Viet nam tham gia Hoi cho deu duoc mien phi thong tin co ban cua doanh nghiep trong vong 1 nam tren trang tieng Trung cua Mang thong tin Trung-Viet: http://ww.china-vn.net de nham tao them co hoi tiep tan lau dai voi thi truong TQ. - Mien phi mot quyen Catalogue chinh thuc cua Hoi cho cho moi donh nghiep Viet Nam co tham gia Hoi cho. - Gioi thieu mien phi doi tac tiem nang tai Trung Quoc khi doanh nghiep Viet Nam co yeu cau va dang ky truoc 15 ngay tro len. Nhung thong tin can biet khi tham gia Hoi cho: - Tat ca hang hoa trung bay trien lam deu phai chuyen toi Ha Noi truoc ngay 10/03/2003 de Ban to chuc nhan hang tai Ha Noi va tap trung lam thu tuc hai quan Trung Quoc, qua han tren, Ban to chuc se khong chiu trach nhiem ve thu tuc hai quan. (Luu y: cac doanh nghiep tu chiu chi phi van chuyen len cua khau, va tu lam cac thu tuc hai quan Viet Nam).Cac don vi cung cap cho BTC danh muc hang hoa(Packing List) trung bay trine lam truoc 28/02/2003 gom co: Ten don vi tham gia trien lam, ten hang , so luong, noi xuat xung, don gia, kich co,trong luong, hinh thuc dong goi, so luong kien, so luong hang can tro ve VN sau hoi cho. - Doi voi cac dai bieu tham gia khao sat Hoi cho (khong thue gian hang), de nghi dang ky va nop ho so, danh sach day du theo yeu cau cua Ban to chuc truoc ngay 28/02/2003. - Cac dai bieu VN co the nhap canh Trung Quoc bang ho chieu + visa (khach tu lo).Trong truong hop hop khong kip xin cap ho chieu hoac Visa thi co the nhap canh TQ bang giay thong hanh do Ban to chuc tap trung xin thu tuc tai Viet Nam va Trung Quoc. Tuy nhien thu tuc nay chi co duoc phep thong hanh trong tinh Quang Tay TQ, ma khong duoc di vuot qua dia phan tinh Quang Tay-TQ voi thoi gian co gia tri trong 8 ngay. Neu co nhu cau can sang cac tinh khac cua TQ trong chuyen di bang giay thong hanh thi phai bao truoc cho Ban to chuc de giup do thu tuc. - Cac dai bieu xuat nhap canh bang giay thong hanh nop cho BTC 04 anh mau 3X4 va 02 chung minh thu Phto it nhat 10 ngay truoc khi xuat canh. - Cac doanh nghiep muon duoc gioi thieu mien phi khach hang tiem nang TQ hoac dang tai thong tin tren Mang thong tin Trung -Viet www.china-vn.net , de nghi gui truoc 10 ngay cac thong tin co noi dung gom: ten doanh nghiep, dia chi thong tin, Tel,Fax,E-mail,Website, so luoc doanh nghiep, thong tin san pham, can mua va can ban, muc dich chuyen di… cho Ban to chuc bang tieng Viet hoac Trung (Khong qua 1000 tu). Moi chi tiet xin lien he: Hoac lien he truc tiep voi chung toi: + Ban to chuc Hoi cho: Dia chi:18 ngo Nam Nhat Ly, duong Tinh Ho, T.P Nam Ninh Tel:0086-771-2615157 Fax:0086-771-2630917 E-mail: xttm(a)china-vn.com Website: www.china-vn.net Nguoi lien he: Mr. Hai , Mr. Luc + Dai dien Ban to chuc tai Viet Nam: Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam Trung tam giao dich quoc te TSC Dia chi:33 - Ba Trieu - Hoan Kiem- Ha Noi- Viet Nam Tel:04.9360134 Fax:04.9360103 E-mail: vcciglobexpo(a)hn.vnn.vn Nguoi lien he: Mr:Hung Mobi:0913367082 Cong ty thuong mai & du lich quoc te Kim Lan-Quang Tay- Trung Quoc Trung tam xuc tien thuong mai Trung - Viet Van phong dai dien tai Ha Noi DC: 204 Pho Duc Chinh-Ba Dinh-Ha Noi Tel: 04-9273335 Fax: 04-9273335 E-mail: kimlanhanoi(a)fpt.vn Nguoi lien he: Mr.Bach - Mobi: 0912118616 Moi chi tiet xin truy cap: http://www.china-vn.net/vn/vn

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question about databases on NetApps
by Mike Kazar 28 May '00

28 May '00

Pardon my ignorance, but I have a question for people running databases on NetApp boxes. I've seen a number of notes in the past from people running Oracle or Sybase over NFS to a NetApp box, and I'm puzzled: why run a database over NFS instead of on top of a local disk? Are you running several instances of the database on several hosts, all sharing the same database over NFS? I'm surprised that works reasonably with a log file being hammered on by several different machines (and I don't really understand how it could work at all with several different log files). Also, I would have thought that NFS's loose cache consistency semantics would have prevented sharing a database from working at all, unless use of file locking disables caching appropriately. Or are you just running one database host, and using the NetApp to manage the database host's disk space. If so, what are the advantages you get from using the NetApp for disk space management instead of just using a local disk? Thanks in advance, Mike

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RE: Solaris 7 & NFS2/NFS3/TCP/UDP....
by Rainchik, Aleksandr (MED, Non GE) 08 May '00

08 May '00

Thank you, That really helped (boosted TPS from 38 to 83 :). Is this option documented or not? I can't find it in the manual... P.S. Still a big problem with NFS2 performance. We have (besides of Solaris) lots of IRIX boxes, and (surprise) if you use automount on IRIX all mounts are NFS2 only... -----Original Message----- From: Keith Brown [mailto:keith@netapp.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 4:23 PM To: Rainchik, Aleksandr (MED, Non GE) Subject: Re: Solaris 7 & NFS2/NFS3/TCP/UDP.... > b) There is no way to use w/rsize=32768 with > NetApp with NFS3 over UDP. Why? I can do it > when mounting from Solaris. Did you set the nfs.udp.xfersize set to 32768? Like so.... filer> options nfs.udp.xfersize 32768 Keith

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Fwd: NetCache/NetApp Release 3.4
by Jamie Lawrence 03 Apr '00

03 Apr '00

From Bugtraq. -j >Approved-By: aleph1(a)SECURITYFOCUS.COM >Delivered-To: bugtraq(a)lists.securityfocus.com >Delivered-To: BUGTRAQ(a)SECURITYFOCUS.COM >X-Hate: Where do you want to go to die? >Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:16:08 +0200 >Reply-To: Michal Zalewski <lcamtuf(a)DIONE.IDS.PL> >Sender: Bugtraq List <BUGTRAQ(a)SECURITYFOCUS.COM> >From: Michal Zalewski <lcamtuf(a)DIONE.IDS.PL> >Subject: NetCache/NetApp Release 3.4 >X-To: BUGTRAQ(a)SECURITYFOCUS.COM >To: BUGTRAQ(a)SECURITYFOCUS.COM > >NetCache by Network Appliance (www.netapp.com) is one of the most popular >heavy-duty commercial proxy/cache application. In fact, it's rather poorly >written. We can't see the source code, but, some side effects instead. >There's a lot of them, but I'll try to focus on something called 'internal >requests' - requests that access proxy itself and are handled specially. > >For example, by connecting to proxy server and sending 'GET >http://proxy_server_itself:8080/disk_objects/help', we'll (usually) get >error message with this URL and a few stupid characters appended at the >end of it. It won't happen if you specify anything after 'help' - so I >believe it's something like broken sscanf() used to determine which help >object user wants. But that's not the point. Try appending slash and >approx 10k of 'A' letters to our request. In case of any other request >treated as 'external', it might result only in error message. But in this >case, with something around 9850 characters, our connection to proxy >server is immediately dropped... sounds familiar? I believe it's an >overflow. > >Another way to access it (urm, I mean, cause crash) is something like: >'GET disk_object://xx/AAAAA...'. Btw. I'm wondering there's anything >interesting available to download this way? There are some pictures, >disk_object://xx/help/graphics/help.gif and so on, but I haven't access to >NetCache box to check what else is inside... Aaaah, almost forgotten! Any >file within disk_object hierarchy might be downloaded as-is by appending >'/' to URL - for example, 'disk_object://xx/help/graphics/help.gif/' will >return text/plain dump of this GIF. This means, NetCache fails to classify >this file, so if there's any script or other special object, it won't be >recognized as something 'special'? > >-- > >Just to make everything clear - I haven't shell access to running NetCache >box, so I cannot verify I'm absolutely right - eg. if there's anything >interesting within disk_objects or what extactly happens, but I think >there's absolutely something wrong, and there's no excuse for poor, even >commercial, code. > >#include <stddiscl.h> // Standard Disclaimer applies > >_______________________________________________________ >Michal Zalewski * [lcamtuf(a)ags.pl] <=> [AGS WAN SYSADM] >[dione.ids.pl SYSADM] <-> [http://lcamtuf.na.export.pl] >[+48 22 551 45 93] [+48 603 110 160] bash$ :(){ :|:&};: >=-----=> God is real, unless declared integer. <=-----=

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RE: Budtool v4.6.1 NDMP breaks with DOT 5.3.5P2
by Francett, Robert D (SAIC) 31 Mar '00

31 Mar '00

Our Veritas backups via NDMP also broke on reboot following upgrade to DOT5.3.5P2 from 5.3.4R2 (note Veritas not sanctioning 5.3.5anything yet to my knowledge). Got backups restarted, but not easy nor straight-forward. NetApp looking at it. We're downgrading to 5.3.4R3P2 per NetApp. Bob > ---------- > From: Jeff Krueger[SMTP:jkrueger@qualcomm.com] > Reply To: jkrueger(a)qualcomm.com > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 2:09 PM > To: Tim McDonough > Cc: Toaster > Subject: Re: Budtool v4.6.1 NDMP breaks with DOT 5.3.5P2 > > Tim: > > We're in the exact same situation. The first problem is that our tape > library device name is now called "mc0" instead of "spt0". This is > configured in the jbmgr_config file. > > Let us know if you figure this one out. We'll do the same if we figure > something out! =) > > -- Jeff > > > From Tim McDonough on Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:00:54 PST: > > > >Howdy All: > > > > We were placed on the upgrade treadmill last week and > >upgraded > > our F740 cluster from v5.3.2D1 ( NDMP worked ) -- v5.3.4R3 > > -- v5.3.5P2 ( NDMP no worky ) > > > > Subsequently, our direct attached Budtool NDMP backups > >stopped > > working and timed out with each request. > > > > Anyone else seen this, solved this? > > > > Legato and NetApp are scratching their heads when they're not > > > > pointing their fingers at one another. > > > > Tim > > > > > > >

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RE: Budtool v4.6.1 NDMP breaks with DOT 5.3.5P2
by Melvin, Grant 31 Mar '00

31 Mar '00

Hi Jeff, We've built in backwards compatibility, so that the jbmgr_config file can use "mco" or "spt0" even tough sysconfig -m only reports mc0. Hope this helps. Tim, I'd like to understand your issues with 5.3.5P2. Can you send me the case # logged with either NetApp or Legato support (or both)? Otherwise, please send me the symptoms. Cheers, Grant -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Krueger [mailto:jkrueger@qualcomm.com] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 3:10 PM To: Tim McDonough Cc: Toaster Subject: Re: Budtool v4.6.1 NDMP breaks with DOT 5.3.5P2 Tim: We're in the exact same situation. The first problem is that our tape library device name is now called "mc0" instead of "spt0". This is configured in the jbmgr_config file. Let us know if you figure this one out. We'll do the same if we figure something out! =) -- Jeff >From Tim McDonough on Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:00:54 PST: > >Howdy All: > > We were placed on the upgrade treadmill last week and >upgraded > our F740 cluster from v5.3.2D1 ( NDMP worked ) -- v5.3.4R3 > -- v5.3.5P2 ( NDMP no worky ) > > Subsequently, our direct attached Budtool NDMP backups >stopped > working and timed out with each request. > > Anyone else seen this, solved this? > > Legato and NetApp are scratching their heads when they're not > > pointing their fingers at one another. > > Tim > > >

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Budtool v4.6.1 NDMP breaks with DOT 5.3.5P2
by Tim McDonough 31 Mar '00

31 Mar '00

Howdy All: We were placed on the upgrade treadmill last week and upgraded our F740 cluster from v5.3.2D1 ( NDMP worked ) -- v5.3.4R3 -- v5.3.5P2 ( NDMP no worky ) Subsequently, our direct attached Budtool NDMP backups stopped working and timed out with each request. Anyone else seen this, solved this? Legato and NetApp are scratching their heads when they're not pointing their fingers at one another. Tim

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RE: benchmark
by Paquette, Trevor 31 Mar '00

31 Mar '00

Oh brother.. asked and answered.. "Each vendor will have to be asked what method they use in the real world." The answer is "ask them.." Subject Closed. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jay Orr [SMTP:orrjl@stl.nexen.com] > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 7:30 AM > To: Paquette, Trevor > Cc: Karl Swartz; toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: RE: benchmark > > Yes, and THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL QUESTION THAT YOU RESPONDED TO - what do > Netapps and Sun do? > > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Paquette, Trevor wrote: > > Each vendor either sticks with powers of 2 (as they should) or they > round > > it. > > Each vendor will have to be asked what method they use in the real > world. > > > > > > > > Yes, we all know the theory, but I'm talking real world. As the > > > thread reads, some vendors use 1000 KB = 1MB, while some don't. I am > > > asking what is implemented. Do the majority of the unix vendors adhere > to > > > the proper base 2 theory of metrics or do they use base 10 combos > > > (i.e. the 1GB = 1000 MB)? > > > > > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Paquette, Trevor wrote: > > > > > > > Here we go.. > > > > > > > > A bit is the smallest unit of data in a computer; has a single > binary > > > value > > > > of either 0 or 1 > > > > A byte is a unit of information that is eight bits long. (half a > byte, > > > or 4 > > > > bits is called a nibble) > > > > > > > > Computer storage is measured in byte multiples; which are based on > > > powers of > > > > 2. > > > > Because humans deal mainly with the decimal system, the resulting > number > > > is > > > > usually 'rounded off' > > > > for humans to better comprehend. > > > > > > > > 1 Kbyte = 1024 bytes = 2^10 bytes = 1,024 > bytes > > > > 1 Megabyte = 1024 Kbytes = 2^20 bytes = 1,048,576 > bytes > > > > 1 Gigabyte = 1024 Mbytes = 2^30 bytes = 1,073,741,824 > bytes > > > > 1 Terabyte = 1024 Gbytes = 2^40 bytes = 1,099,511,627,776 > bytes > > > > 1 Petabyte = 1024 Tbytes = 2^50 bytes = 1,125,899,906,842,624 > bytes > > > > 1 Exabyte = 1024 Pbytes = 2^60 bytes = 1,152,921,504,606,846,976 > bytes > > > > = approx. 1 billion GB > > > > > > Humm... Fun.. Do you know off hand how Solaris and netapp defines > a MB > > > or > > > > > GB? In moving around files I started thinking about this, since > > > depending > > > > > on what tool you use you get file sizes in "bytes" "kbytes" "MB" > or > > > "GB" > > > > > (a la gnu df, solaris df, etc...) > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Karl Swartz wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Uh, if I can ask a simple (stupid?) question - I was looking > at > > > the > > > > > source > > > > > > > code for postmark and noticed this : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #define KILOBYTE 1024 > > > > > > > #define MEGABYTE (1000*KILOBYTE) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't a megabite 1024*1024? > > > > > > > > > > > > It depends on who you ask. Long ago, disk vendors decided that > they > > > > > > could make their disks look bigger if they defined MB to be 2000 > > > > > > sectors (assuming 512 byte sectors, or 8000 sectors for 128 byte > > > > > > sectors), and GB became 1000 MB. Of course they also talked > about > > > > > > unformatted capacity to further inflate the size over reality. > > > > > > > > > > > > In a similar vein, telco people talk about 1K = 1000. The 64K > B- > > > > > > channel in an ISDN line is 64000 bits per second, not 65536. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure about networking, but I think FDDI and 100base-T > both > > > > > > have a data rate of 100 * 10^6 bits/second, not 100 * 2^20. > (Not to > > > be > > > > > > confused with the signalling rate, which as I recall is 125 * > 10^6 > > > for > > > > > > FDDI with some flavor of 4/5 encoding, and possibly something > > > similar > > > > > > for 100base-T.) > > > > > > > > > > > > What's right for Postmark? Good question. It looks like Jeff > > > picked > > > > > > the standard for disk sizes, but it's not clear that's the > standard > > > > > > most applicable to this case. Aren't standards wonderful? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Karl Swartz Network Appliance Engineering > > > > > > Work: kls(a)netapp.com http://www.netapp.com/ > > > > > > Home: kls(a)chicago.com http://www.chicago.com/~kls/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------- > > > > > Jay Orr > > > > > Systems Administrator > > > > > Fujitsu Nexion Inc. > > > > > St. Louis, MO > > > > > > > > > > ----------- > > > Jay Orr > > > Systems Administrator > > > Fujitsu Nexion Inc. > > > St. Louis, MO > > > > ----------- > Jay Orr > Systems Administrator > Fujitsu Nexion Inc. > St. Louis, MO

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RE: benchmark
by Paquette, Trevor 31 Mar '00

31 Mar '00

Common decency is taking this to private email.. which I am now going to do. Sorry to bother the rest of this list with crap.. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jay Orr [SMTP:orrjl@stl.nexen.com] > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 8:48 AM > To: Paquette, Trevor > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: RE: benchmark > > > By restating someone's question as an answer, it is not "asked and > answered". I had put to this forum the question of what does Netapps and > Sun do, since there are many Netapp people on this and many people who use > Sun here. > > Your answers have been less then helpful - If you don't know then why did > you reply to the original posting? It was a SIMPLE QUESTION, I didn't ask > for the theory of powers of two, I didn't ask "who should I ask", I didn't > say "how does Trevor feel about this?" I simply posted to this informative > list a simple question of WHAT DOES NETAPP and SUN do in formulating what > they consider MB and GB. > > Please, if you have nothing useful to add to a discussion, don't > interject. That's just common decency... > > > On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Paquette, Trevor wrote: > > > Oh brother.. > > > > asked and answered.. > > > > "Each vendor will have to be asked what method they use in the real > world." > > > > The answer is "ask them.." > > > > Subject Closed. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jay Orr [SMTP:orrjl@stl.nexen.com] > > > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 7:30 AM > > > To: Paquette, Trevor > > > Cc: Karl Swartz; toasters(a)mathworks.com > > > Subject: RE: benchmark > > > > > > Yes, and THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL QUESTION THAT YOU RESPONDED TO - what > do > > > Netapps and Sun do? > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Paquette, Trevor wrote: > > > > Each vendor either sticks with powers of 2 (as they should) or they > > > round > > > > it. > > > > Each vendor will have to be asked what method they use in the real > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, we all know the theory, but I'm talking real world. As the > > > > > thread reads, some vendors use 1000 KB = 1MB, while some don't. I > am > > > > > asking what is implemented. Do the majority of the unix vendors > adhere > > > to > > > > > the proper base 2 theory of metrics or do they use base 10 combos > > > > > (i.e. the 1GB = 1000 MB)? > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Paquette, Trevor wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Here we go.. > > > > > > > > > > > > A bit is the smallest unit of data in a computer; has a single > > > binary > > > > > value > > > > > > of either 0 or 1 > > > > > > A byte is a unit of information that is eight bits long. (half a > > > byte, > > > > > or 4 > > > > > > bits is called a nibble) > > > > > > > > > > > > Computer storage is measured in byte multiples; which are based > on > > > > > powers of > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > Because humans deal mainly with the decimal system, the > resulting > > > number > > > > > is > > > > > > usually 'rounded off' > > > > > > for humans to better comprehend. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Kbyte = 1024 bytes = 2^10 bytes = > 1,024 > > > bytes > > > > > > 1 Megabyte = 1024 Kbytes = 2^20 bytes = > 1,048,576 > > > bytes > > > > > > 1 Gigabyte = 1024 Mbytes = 2^30 bytes = > 1,073,741,824 > > > bytes > > > > > > 1 Terabyte = 1024 Gbytes = 2^40 bytes = > 1,099,511,627,776 > > > bytes > > > > > > 1 Petabyte = 1024 Tbytes = 2^50 bytes = > 1,125,899,906,842,624 > > > bytes > > > > > > 1 Exabyte = 1024 Pbytes = 2^60 bytes = > 1,152,921,504,606,846,976 > > > bytes > > > > > > = approx. 1 billion GB > > > > > > > > > > Humm... Fun.. Do you know off hand how Solaris and netapp > defines > > > a MB > > > > > or > > > > > > > GB? In moving around files I started thinking about this, > since > > > > > depending > > > > > > > on what tool you use you get file sizes in "bytes" "kbytes" > "MB" > > > or > > > > > "GB" > > > > > > > (a la gnu df, solaris df, etc...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Karl Swartz wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uh, if I can ask a simple (stupid?) question - I was > looking > > > at > > > > > the > > > > > > > source > > > > > > > > > code for postmark and noticed this : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #define KILOBYTE 1024 > > > > > > > > > #define MEGABYTE (1000*KILOBYTE) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't a megabite 1024*1024? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It depends on who you ask. Long ago, disk vendors decided > that > > > they > > > > > > > > could make their disks look bigger if they defined MB to be > 2000 > > > > > > > > sectors (assuming 512 byte sectors, or 8000 sectors for 128 > byte > > > > > > > > sectors), and GB became 1000 MB. Of course they also talked > > > about > > > > > > > > unformatted capacity to further inflate the size over > reality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a similar vein, telco people talk about 1K = 1000. The > 64K > > > B- > > > > > > > > channel in an ISDN line is 64000 bits per second, not 65536. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure about networking, but I think FDDI and > 100base-T > > > both > > > > > > > > have a data rate of 100 * 10^6 bits/second, not 100 * 2^20. > > > (Not to > > > > > be > > > > > > > > confused with the signalling rate, which as I recall is 125 > * > > > 10^6 > > > > > for > > > > > > > > FDDI with some flavor of 4/5 encoding, and possibly > something > > > > > similar > > > > > > > > for 100base-T.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's right for Postmark? Good question. It looks like > Jeff > > > > > picked > > > > > > > > the standard for disk sizes, but it's not clear that's the > > > standard > > > > > > > > most applicable to this case. Aren't standards wonderful? > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Karl Swartz Network Appliance Engineering > > > > > > > > Work: kls(a)netapp.com http://www.netapp.com/ > > > > > > > > Home: kls(a)chicago.com http://www.chicago.com/~kls/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------- > > > > > > > Jay Orr > > > > > > > Systems Administrator > > > > > > > Fujitsu Nexion Inc. > > > > > > > St. Louis, MO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------- > > > > > Jay Orr > > > > > Systems Administrator > > > > > Fujitsu Nexion Inc. > > > > > St. Louis, MO > > > > > > > > > > ----------- > > > Jay Orr > > > Systems Administrator > > > Fujitsu Nexion Inc. > > > St. Louis, MO > > > > ----------- > Jay Orr > Systems Administrator > Fujitsu Nexion Inc. > St. Louis, MO

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How are you mounting CIFS homedirs with Win9x?
by Timothy Demarest 31 Mar '00

31 Mar '00

I was wondering how everyone is mounting CIFS file systems from Windows 9x clients? Having worked through the NIS netgroup issue (Bug #19922, patched in 5.3.4R3P2 -- thanks everyone), I'm moving on to getting the new filer working with PCs. I have a CIFS homedir for each user. The filer shares this directory so that it appears as the user name. In a Windows NT login script, I can use the "%username%" directive to mount the user's home dir as H:. However, you can't use "%username%" with Windows 9x clients. One option is to set the home directory in the user's environment profile (in User Manager), but this requires changing each user's profile. The logon script is simple and elegant. I'd really like to mount the CIFS homedir directly, rather than having the user open the drive, then open the folder with their associated username in order to access files in their home directory. Any hints? Tim

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