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RE: backup question (Summary)
by Geoff Hardin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

First, let me say thanks to everyone who responded. Second, it appears that there are no stand alone FC drives on the market now. There are a couple of drives that have native FC support (LTO-2 and STK 9xxx), but they are available only as a part of a library configuration. So in our situation, it looks like we'll just attach the tape drives to the Sun server and back everything up via NFS (hope they don't want CIFS data on the filer!), or they'll have to open the pocket book a bit wider and buy a small autoloader or library. Thanks again for all the responses! Geoff Hardin geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] > On Behalf Of Geoff Hardin > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:39 PM > To: toasters > Subject: backup question > > > I am getting a FAS270c for a small project. The users are concerned > > about the data security and do not want the data to cross the wire to > our current backup solution. So, we're limited to a couple of direct > attached tape drives on the FAS270 because the amount of data does not > justify a small library. Is there anyone else out there doing this? > What did you use? I can't find any stand alone FC (optical) tape > drives. > > Thanks for the help! > > Geoff Hardin > geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com > If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

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NetBackup 4.5 ,NDMP backup failing for root volume
by manish.a.kinnerkar＠jpmorgan.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi All, We are having a setup of 2 filers with locally attached Tape drives - part of a Multihost Tape librbary . The scheduling & backup control is via a Netbackup 4.5 server via NDMP. The filers as well as the Backup server are a part of a Win2k domain . On one filer, the backup of /vol/vol0 fails specefically after initiation of the ndmp session with the filer. All other volumes can be backed up properly without any such issues. The ndmp session report on the filer is initiated , tape is opened and then it is displays as halted . In netbackup the error code is 99 , which asks you to check the backup file list for invalid entries. The other filer's backup goes well for all volumes including root. I have checked by trying /vol/vol0 or /etc or / as the paths , with no effect.All options seem same on both filers. Can someone suggest what would specefically need to checked in this case. regards, Manish This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates.

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RE: Clearcase on Netapps
by Kumar, Rahul 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

No..Its Full Clearcase -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Bob Borowicz Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:46 AM To: toasters Subject: Re: Clearcase on Netapps Yes... Is it Clearcase LT or Full Clearcase? Clearcase LT does NOT support VOBS on NetApp.... -Rob Kumar, Rahul wrote: > Hi, > > We have our clearcase vobs on Netapps.. > > When a windows users tries to checkin a file, the windows explorer > crashes often.... Any ideas... > > F740- Ontap6.4.1 (clnt Windows 2000+sp3 with CC 4.2) > > Regards > Rahul >

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Clearcase on Netapps
by Kumar, Rahul 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, We have our clearcase vobs on Netapps.. When a windows users tries to checkin a file, the windows explorer crashes often.... Any ideas... F740- Ontap6.4.1 (clnt Windows 2000+sp3 with CC 4.2) Regards Rahul

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RE: Virus Protection ideas
by Uren, Jim 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

A clarification to Michel's excellent information. "...files are always written to disk, whenever they contain a virus or not." The filer will request a scan for viruses when there is a file extension match and the client request is one of: a) file open b) file rename c) file close (but only if the file was modified) When a file is created there is no scan. When the newly created file is written to, there is no scan. Scanning after each write would kill performance. However, when the file is closed, a scan will occur. As long as the anti-virus server has been set to clean/quarantine/delete if viruses are detected, any infection will be taken care of right then, not when a second client subsequently opens the file. -----Original Message----- From: Michel GELDENHUYS [mailto:michel.geldenhuys@danone.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:48 AM To: Toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Virus Protection ideas Hi Jon, I think you have two options: - the first one is to forget about virus scanning on your Filer and rely on antivirus software installed on your workstations and servers ;-) - the second one is to go with the virus protection for CIFS way implemented in Data Ontap. Extract from DPG: "CIFS virus protection is a Data ONTAP feature that allows a virus-scanning PC client running Network Appliance-compliant antivirus applications to provide on-access virus scanning of files on a filer. On-access virus scanning means that a file is scanned before a CIFS client is allowed to open it." So files are always written to disk, whenever they contain a virus or not. This is to keep the blasting performance of our Filers at the top. But when an "open file" request is issued, Data Ontap interacts with the antivirus server so that the second scans the file and eventually prevent access to it in case it's infected. You'll find all the story in DOT's Data Protection Guide (see following URL, requires NOW access: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel642p6/html/ontap/dpg/vsca…) For compliant antivirus software, Symantec and Trend have one: Symantec: http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?ProductID=145 Trend Micro: http://www.trendmicro.com/en/products/file-server/sp-netapp/evaluate/overvi… Kind regards, Michel Geldenhuys Danone Belgium SA/NV +32 2 776 68 23 michel.geldenhuys(a)danone.com "Jon Kroff" <JKroff(a)hollandhart.com> Sent by: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com 16/12/2003 17:14 To: <Toasters(a)mathworks.com> cc: Subject: Virus Protection ideas I am about to consolidate all data storage on to a FAS940 using iSCSI LUNs and CIFS. I was wondering what kind of virus protection companies are using on their appliances for their simple CIF shares. We currently own the Trend Micro suite as well as Symantec suite, if either of those would work. Any input is greatly appreciated. Jon Kroff Network Engineer Holland & Hart LLP 555 17th Street, Suite 3200 Denver, CO 80202 Phone: 303.295.8308 E-mail: jkroff(a)hollandhart.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message is confidential and may be privileged. If you believe that this email has been sent to you in error, please reply to the sender that you received the message in error; then please delete this e-mail. Thank you.

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RE: Virus protection
by Hill, Aaron 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

We use Trendmicro Server Protect for Network Appliance across multiple filers for a few thousand users. - fairly straightforward setup - easy to administer and monitor. Incidents and outbreaks are well reported - Pattern updates and notification is solid - Our vendor support has been excellent Definitely worth considering against any of the other major vendors. Aaron -----Original Message----- From: Jon Kroff [mailto:JKroff@hollandhart.com] Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2003 2:41 AM To: Toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Virus protection I am about to consolidate all data storage on to a FAS940 using iSCSI LUNs and CIFS. I was wondering what kind of virus protection companies are using on their appliances for their simple CIF shares. We currently own the Trend Micro suite as well as Symantec suite, if either of those would work. Any input is greatly appreciated. Jon Kroff Network Engineer Holland & Hart LLP 555 17th Street, Suite 3200 Denver, CO 80202 Phone: 303.295.8308 E-mail: jkroff(a)hollandhart.com <http://www.hollandhart.com/> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message is confidential and may be privileged. If you believe that this email has been sent to you in error, please reply to the sender that you received the message in error; then please delete this e-mail. Thank you. ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ************** This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. **************************************************

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RE: backup question
by Kenley, Martin 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

Geoff -- Sony AIT-3 comes as a stand alone, so do most other tape formats: SDLT, Exabyte, LTO, LTO2, etc. Get in touch with a good vendor and they can point you in the right direction for example http://www.storagebysony.com/products/productmain.asp?id=142 Martin -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Hardin [mailto:geoff.hardin@dalsemi.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:39 PM To: toasters Subject: backup question I am getting a FAS270c for a small project. The users are concerned about the data security and do not want the data to cross the wire to our current backup solution. So, we're limited to a couple of direct attached tape drives on the FAS270 because the amount of data does not justify a small library. Is there anyone else out there doing this? What did you use? I can't find any stand alone FC (optical) tape drives. Thanks for the help! Geoff Hardin geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

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backup question
by Geoff Hardin 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

I am getting a FAS270c for a small project. The users are concerned about the data security and do not want the data to cross the wire to our current backup solution. So, we're limited to a couple of direct attached tape drives on the FAS270 because the amount of data does not justify a small library. Is there anyone else out there doing this? What did you use? I can't find any stand alone FC (optical) tape drives. Thanks for the help! Geoff Hardin geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

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Tape Backups
by Dan Nowak 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

All, As I am fairly new to Network Appliances, I would like your opinions on the best method for backing up a larger system. I am using a spectralogic 245 tape jukebox in stacker mode. I am trying to backup two separate volumes in utilizing a no-rewind device. As we are only in the testing mode, there is currently not that much data to back up, however when in full production, we fully expect a 1000+ users with a disk quota of 1 gig. We are not using any third party application such as Veritas or Legato Networker and are only using the dump and restore commands and the options associated with them. The NetApp documentation really is not that informative and I thought maybe some of the more experienced users out there may have some helpful suggestions. Thank you in advance for any advice, Dan

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Re: Virus Protection ideas
by Michel GELDENHUYS 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

Hi Jon, I think you have two options: - the first one is to forget about virus scanning on your Filer and rely on antivirus software installed on your workstations and servers ;-) - the second one is to go with the virus protection for CIFS way implemented in Data Ontap. Extract from DPG: "CIFS virus protection is a Data ONTAP feature that allows a virus-scanning PC client running Network Appliance-compliant antivirus applications to provide on-access virus scanning of files on a filer. On-access virus scanning means that a file is scanned before a CIFS client is allowed to open it." So files are always written to disk, whenever they contain a virus or not. This is to keep the blasting performance of our Filers at the top. But when an "open file" request is issued, Data Ontap interacts with the antivirus server so that the second scans the file and eventually prevent access to it in case it's infected. You'll find all the story in DOT's Data Protection Guide (see following URL, requires NOW access: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel642p6/html/ontap/dpg/vsca…) For compliant antivirus software, Symantec and Trend have one: Symantec: http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?ProductID=145 Trend Micro: http://www.trendmicro.com/en/products/file-server/sp-netapp/evaluate/overvi… Kind regards, Michel Geldenhuys Danone Belgium SA/NV +32 2 776 68 23 michel.geldenhuys(a)danone.com "Jon Kroff" <JKroff(a)hollandhart.com> Sent by: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com 16/12/2003 17:14 To: <Toasters(a)mathworks.com> cc: Subject: Virus Protection ideas I am about to consolidate all data storage on to a FAS940 using iSCSI LUNs and CIFS. I was wondering what kind of virus protection companies are using on their appliances for their simple CIF shares. We currently own the Trend Micro suite as well as Symantec suite, if either of those would work. Any input is greatly appreciated. Jon Kroff Network Engineer Holland & Hart LLP 555 17th Street, Suite 3200 Denver, CO 80202 Phone: 303.295.8308 E-mail: jkroff(a)hollandhart.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message is confidential and may be privileged. If you believe that this email has been sent to you in error, please reply to the sender that you received the message in error; then please delete this e-mail. Thank you.

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