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RE: Virus Protection ideas
by Uren, Jim 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

A clarification to Michel's excellent information. "...files are always written to disk, whenever they contain a virus or not." The filer will request a scan for viruses when there is a file extension match and the client request is one of: a) file open b) file rename c) file close (but only if the file was modified) When a file is created there is no scan. When the newly created file is written to, there is no scan. Scanning after each write would kill performance. However, when the file is closed, a scan will occur. As long as the anti-virus server has been set to clean/quarantine/delete if viruses are detected, any infection will be taken care of right then, not when a second client subsequently opens the file. -----Original Message----- From: Michel GELDENHUYS [mailto:michel.geldenhuys@danone.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:48 AM To: Toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Virus Protection ideas Hi Jon, I think you have two options: - the first one is to forget about virus scanning on your Filer and rely on antivirus software installed on your workstations and servers ;-) - the second one is to go with the virus protection for CIFS way implemented in Data Ontap. Extract from DPG: "CIFS virus protection is a Data ONTAP feature that allows a virus-scanning PC client running Network Appliance-compliant antivirus applications to provide on-access virus scanning of files on a filer. On-access virus scanning means that a file is scanned before a CIFS client is allowed to open it." So files are always written to disk, whenever they contain a virus or not. This is to keep the blasting performance of our Filers at the top. But when an "open file" request is issued, Data Ontap interacts with the antivirus server so that the second scans the file and eventually prevent access to it in case it's infected. You'll find all the story in DOT's Data Protection Guide (see following URL, requires NOW access: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel642p6/html/ontap/dpg/vsca…) For compliant antivirus software, Symantec and Trend have one: Symantec: http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?ProductID=145 Trend Micro: http://www.trendmicro.com/en/products/file-server/sp-netapp/evaluate/overvi… Kind regards, Michel Geldenhuys Danone Belgium SA/NV +32 2 776 68 23 michel.geldenhuys(a)danone.com "Jon Kroff" <JKroff(a)hollandhart.com> Sent by: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com 16/12/2003 17:14 To: <Toasters(a)mathworks.com> cc: Subject: Virus Protection ideas I am about to consolidate all data storage on to a FAS940 using iSCSI LUNs and CIFS. I was wondering what kind of virus protection companies are using on their appliances for their simple CIF shares. We currently own the Trend Micro suite as well as Symantec suite, if either of those would work. Any input is greatly appreciated. Jon Kroff Network Engineer Holland & Hart LLP 555 17th Street, Suite 3200 Denver, CO 80202 Phone: 303.295.8308 E-mail: jkroff(a)hollandhart.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message is confidential and may be privileged. If you believe that this email has been sent to you in error, please reply to the sender that you received the message in error; then please delete this e-mail. Thank you.

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RE: Virus protection
by Hill, Aaron 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

We use Trendmicro Server Protect for Network Appliance across multiple filers for a few thousand users. - fairly straightforward setup - easy to administer and monitor. Incidents and outbreaks are well reported - Pattern updates and notification is solid - Our vendor support has been excellent Definitely worth considering against any of the other major vendors. Aaron -----Original Message----- From: Jon Kroff [mailto:JKroff@hollandhart.com] Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2003 2:41 AM To: Toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Virus protection I am about to consolidate all data storage on to a FAS940 using iSCSI LUNs and CIFS. I was wondering what kind of virus protection companies are using on their appliances for their simple CIF shares. We currently own the Trend Micro suite as well as Symantec suite, if either of those would work. Any input is greatly appreciated. Jon Kroff Network Engineer Holland & Hart LLP 555 17th Street, Suite 3200 Denver, CO 80202 Phone: 303.295.8308 E-mail: jkroff(a)hollandhart.com <http://www.hollandhart.com/> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message is confidential and may be privileged. If you believe that this email has been sent to you in error, please reply to the sender that you received the message in error; then please delete this e-mail. Thank you. ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ************** This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. **************************************************

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RE: backup question
by Kenley, Martin 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

Geoff -- Sony AIT-3 comes as a stand alone, so do most other tape formats: SDLT, Exabyte, LTO, LTO2, etc. Get in touch with a good vendor and they can point you in the right direction for example http://www.storagebysony.com/products/productmain.asp?id=142 Martin -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Hardin [mailto:geoff.hardin@dalsemi.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:39 PM To: toasters Subject: backup question I am getting a FAS270c for a small project. The users are concerned about the data security and do not want the data to cross the wire to our current backup solution. So, we're limited to a couple of direct attached tape drives on the FAS270 because the amount of data does not justify a small library. Is there anyone else out there doing this? What did you use? I can't find any stand alone FC (optical) tape drives. Thanks for the help! Geoff Hardin geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

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backup question
by Geoff Hardin 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

I am getting a FAS270c for a small project. The users are concerned about the data security and do not want the data to cross the wire to our current backup solution. So, we're limited to a couple of direct attached tape drives on the FAS270 because the amount of data does not justify a small library. Is there anyone else out there doing this? What did you use? I can't find any stand alone FC (optical) tape drives. Thanks for the help! Geoff Hardin geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

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Tape Backups
by Dan Nowak 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

All, As I am fairly new to Network Appliances, I would like your opinions on the best method for backing up a larger system. I am using a spectralogic 245 tape jukebox in stacker mode. I am trying to backup two separate volumes in utilizing a no-rewind device. As we are only in the testing mode, there is currently not that much data to back up, however when in full production, we fully expect a 1000+ users with a disk quota of 1 gig. We are not using any third party application such as Veritas or Legato Networker and are only using the dump and restore commands and the options associated with them. The NetApp documentation really is not that informative and I thought maybe some of the more experienced users out there may have some helpful suggestions. Thank you in advance for any advice, Dan

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Re: Virus Protection ideas
by Michel GELDENHUYS 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

Hi Jon, I think you have two options: - the first one is to forget about virus scanning on your Filer and rely on antivirus software installed on your workstations and servers ;-) - the second one is to go with the virus protection for CIFS way implemented in Data Ontap. Extract from DPG: "CIFS virus protection is a Data ONTAP feature that allows a virus-scanning PC client running Network Appliance-compliant antivirus applications to provide on-access virus scanning of files on a filer. On-access virus scanning means that a file is scanned before a CIFS client is allowed to open it." So files are always written to disk, whenever they contain a virus or not. This is to keep the blasting performance of our Filers at the top. But when an "open file" request is issued, Data Ontap interacts with the antivirus server so that the second scans the file and eventually prevent access to it in case it's infected. You'll find all the story in DOT's Data Protection Guide (see following URL, requires NOW access: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel642p6/html/ontap/dpg/vsca…) For compliant antivirus software, Symantec and Trend have one: Symantec: http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?ProductID=145 Trend Micro: http://www.trendmicro.com/en/products/file-server/sp-netapp/evaluate/overvi… Kind regards, Michel Geldenhuys Danone Belgium SA/NV +32 2 776 68 23 michel.geldenhuys(a)danone.com "Jon Kroff" <JKroff(a)hollandhart.com> Sent by: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com 16/12/2003 17:14 To: <Toasters(a)mathworks.com> cc: Subject: Virus Protection ideas I am about to consolidate all data storage on to a FAS940 using iSCSI LUNs and CIFS. I was wondering what kind of virus protection companies are using on their appliances for their simple CIF shares. We currently own the Trend Micro suite as well as Symantec suite, if either of those would work. Any input is greatly appreciated. Jon Kroff Network Engineer Holland & Hart LLP 555 17th Street, Suite 3200 Denver, CO 80202 Phone: 303.295.8308 E-mail: jkroff(a)hollandhart.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message is confidential and may be privileged. If you believe that this email has been sent to you in error, please reply to the sender that you received the message in error; then please delete this e-mail. Thank you.

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Virus Protection ideas
by Jon Kroff 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

I am about to consolidate all data storage on to a FAS940 using iSCSI LUNs and CIFS. I was wondering what kind of virus protection companies are using on their appliances for their simple CIF shares. We currently own the Trend Micro suite as well as Symantec suite, if either of those would work. Any input is greatly appreciated. Jon Kroff Network Engineer Holland & Hart LLP 555 17th Street, Suite 3200 Denver, CO 80202 Phone: 303.295.8308 E-mail: jkroff(a)hollandhart.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message is confidential and may be privileged. If you believe that this email has been sent to you in error, please reply to the sender that you received the message in error; then please delete this e-mail. Thank you.

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investment proposal
by cathrine 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

MRS. CATHRINE ROSSMAN SPAIN Tel:0034645491777 cathrinrossman(a)yahoo.com ATTN: SIR/MADAM With due respect trust and humility l write to you irrespective of the fact that you do not know me,but please do consider this latter as a request from a widow and family in dire need an assistance l am Mrs Catherine Rossman,the widow of late Mr Jonathan Rossman, the renowned Zimbabwe Wine and Cattle Ranch farmer and owner of ROSSMAN FARMS in Zimbabwe. During the war waged against the farmers in Zimbabwe by the supporters and cohorts President Robert Mugabe to claim all the white owned farms in our country,my late husband belonged to one of the classes of farmers targeted by the ZANU-PF armed group attacked and invaded my husband´s farm,burning,destroying and eventually killing him. After my husband´s death l managed to escape to Spain with my son surviving because our lives were in danger and Zimbabwe was no longer safe for us.We escaped safely with my husband`s lifetime fortune of US$26M (Twenty-Six Million United State Dollar ) cash,important documents of property title and valuables,which were concealed and secured in two treasure boxes,and transported to Spain through diplomatic means. The consignment box is currently safely lodged and secured into the vaults of a reputable security and brokerage firm here in Spain. Presently,l am residing temporarily with my son in Spain as political asylum seekers. At the moment,l am in dilemma on how to move this money safely out of Spain for investment,because of my asylum position and stringent regulations with asylum seekers.More so owing to the sensitve and volatile business status of your region,it would be most honourable to attampt investing in your country as such will not jeopardice our chances. In recognitions of your personal executive power and investment opportunities that abound in your country,l solict for your assistance in moving my family money into your bank account for safekeeping pending our future arrival for investments. The family has resolved to compensate you adequately by offering a brokege commission of 20% of the money.l have in mind to establish a good business and friendly relations with you and my sons in the nearst future if you are able to assist us. Please,let me receive your approval or reply through my son by telephone Contact through Mr Abdu Rossman.If you are unable to assist please be kind to notify me so I can look for a suitable alternative. Please accept my warm complain as l earnestly await your response. cathrinrossman(a)yahoo.com Respectfully, CATHRINE ROSSMAN (MRS)

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Virus protection
by Jon Kroff 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

I am about to consolidate all data storage on to a FAS940 using iSCSI LUNs and CIFS. I was wondering what kind of virus protection companies are using on their appliances for their simple CIF shares. We currently own the Trend Micro suite as well as Symantec suite, if either of those would work. Any input is greatly appreciated. Jon Kroff Network Engineer Holland & Hart LLP 555 17th Street, Suite 3200 Denver, CO 80202 Phone: 303.295.8308 E-mail: jkroff(a)hollandhart.com <http://www.hollandhart.com/> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message is confidential and may be privileged. If you believe that this email has been sent to you in error, please reply to the sender that you received the message in error; then please delete this e-mail. Thank you.

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RE: Tape Backups
by James Beal 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

Thank you for your quick response. I appreciate the reply and advice. However, I am under certain restraints in that there is no wish or desire to purchase any new software and the only stated purpose for the tape backups is for disaster recovery purposes. I was hoping to find out what would be the most efficient way to do multiple volume backups so that I could determine the most efficient way in which to label and record the contents of the tapes. We use veritas netbackup and are very happy with it. Is it a financal restraint stopping you from spending money on a proper backup solution ? If so and you don't want to backup cifs acl's ( well use cifs at all ) then consider using amanda and backing up over nfs. Its got a reasonable chance of working although I would have a tendancy to give it a separate ethernet to work on. if you want to use dump and the stacker then just repeat the device multiple times and I believe it will load the next tape. I also believe you will cost your company more in the long run by not buying good software to do this job. Amanda is good free software but you would have to use nfs, it may be possible to back cifs shares up using samba and amanada. The only way I would be able to run with just a stacker would be to do a weekly dump and fill the device first then empty after the run labeling each of the tapes with the week and tape number.

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