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FAS200 series performance
by Geoff Hardin 12 Nov '03

12 Nov '03

Has anyone seen any performance numbers for the FAS200 series? We are looking at upgrading / replacing some older F700 systems and I wanted to know how they stacked up. I know the disk capacity isn't all that much different (4 TB raw for FAS270C vs 6 TB raw for F760C), but what about NFS ops? We're not pushing that much through now, but if we start consolidating... -- Geoff Hardin geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com If you want to get to the top, be prepared to kiss a lot the bottom. - Despair, Inc.

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by bright jim 12 Nov '03

12 Nov '03

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slow dumps
by Rogers, Jamie 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

Toasters, I have an F760 running data ontap 6.3.1 with 4 FC-9 (7x32) shelves attached. I use Ultra 10 with a HP SureStore718 LVD autoloader for remote backups. I use rsh (rsh filer dump 0uf sunbox:/dev/rmt/1 /vol/vol1) via a cron job to run the dump. The Ultra10 and the filer are connected on a private network via 100TX crossover cable. Local file system backups (from the Ultra 10) to this tape drive go at about 4+ Meg/sec, great. The root volume of my filer and /vol3 dump at 4+ Megs/sec, this is great. However 2 volumes, vol1 and vol2, dump at 571Kb/sec. This performance is independent of the interface used, I get the same results using my 100TX or my gigabit. Likewise I get the same results when the dump is run from the filer, that is eliminating rsh. Sysstat looks normal during both dumps. The only difference in the volumes is the number of files, volumes 1 and 2 each have about 2 million files where as volume 3 has 1.2 million files and the root is about 10,000 files with out quotas. The data on volumes 1 and 2 consists of lots of small files and changes frequently whereas volumes 0 and 3 are pretty static. I have already cut the volumes up into 4 qtrees of 30G each. A quota report does not look out of the ordinary and no single quota tree has more than 950,000 files, see quota report below. What could be causing the dumps to progress so slowly? Any suggestions to speed up my backups? K-Bytes Files Type ID Volume Tree Used Limit Used Limit Quota Specifier ----- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- ------- ------- --------------- tree 1 vol4 zeus21 0 31457280 3 - /vol/vol4/zeus21 tree 2 vol4 zeus22 0 31457280 3 - /vol/vol4/zeus22 tree 3 vol4 zeus23 0 31457280 3 - /vol/vol4/zeus23 tree 4 vol4 zeus24 3969544 31457280 22085 - /vol/vol4/zeus24 tree 1 vol3 zeus17 3076 31457280 5 - /vol/vol3/zeus17 tree 2 vol3 zeus18 0 31457280 3 - /vol/vol3/zeus18 tree 3 vol3 tools_19 21525624 31457280 343289 - /vol/vol3/tools_19 tree 4 vol3 tools_20 22765236 31457280 701033 - /vol/vol3/tools_20 tree 1 vol2 zeus13 21631732 31457280 439528 - /vol/vol2/zeus13 tree 2 vol2 zeus14 30732636 31457280 716547 - /vol/vol2/zeus14 tree 3 vol2 zeus15 21069420 31457280 721908 - /vol/vol2/zeus15 tree 4 vol2 zeus16 0 31457280 3 - /vol/vol2/zeus16 tree 2 vol1 zeus11 26029280 31457280 933922 - /vol/vol1/zeus11 tree 3 vol1 zeus12 29793368 31457280 788538 - /vol/vol1/zeus12 Thanks, Jamie -Jamie.

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restore ndmp tape on solaris
by Carlos A. Alvarez 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

Does anyone know how many blocks writes Legato Networker 6.2 on NDMP tape drive, I need to bypass it and make a restore to a SUN Solaris thru mt command ? Has anyone tested this solutions and has any recomendations? Thanks

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by Vin Ranta 10 Nov '03

10 Nov '03

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by ineconline 06 Nov '03

06 Nov '03

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Raid group and volume...
by Art Hebert 05 Nov '03

05 Nov '03

I have a volume called vol0 which shows 254gb of space. I believe it has 7 data disks (34.5gb) and 1 parity disk in raid group 0. There is also a raid group 1 that contains a 1 data disk and 1 parity disk. I don't think these disks are being used in the volume vol0. How do I tell if they are or aren't? If they aren't being used how can I get them added into vol0 as 2 data disks? Details: sjcf760-04-gig:/vol/vol0/home/oracle/standby01/admin 254210460 230604136 23606324 sjcf760-04> sysconfig -r Volume vol0 (root, zoned checksums) RAID group 0 RAID Disk HA.ID HA SHELF BAY CHAN Used (MB/blks) Phys (MB/blks) --------- ----- ------------ ---- -------------- -------------- parity 7.5 7 0 5 FC:A 34500/70656000 35003/71687368 data 7.6 7 0 6 FC:A 34500/70656000 35003/71687368 data 7.4 7 0 4 FC:A 34500/70656000 35003/71687368 data 7.3 7 0 3 FC:A 34500/70656000 35003/71687368 data 7.2 7 0 2 FC:A 34500/70656000 35003/71687368 data 7.1 7 0 1 FC:A 34500/70656000 35003/71687368 data 7.0 7 0 0 FC:A 34500/70656000 35003/71687368 data 7.10 7 1 2 FC:A 34500/70656000 35003/71687368 RAID group 1 RAID Disk HA.ID HA SHELF BAY CHAN Used (MB/blks) Phys (MB/blks) --------- ----- ------------ ---- -------------- -------------- parity 7.11 7 1 3 FC:A 34500/70656000 35003/71687368 data 7.12 7 1 4 FC:A 34500/70656000 35003/71687368 sjcf760-04> df Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /vol/vol0/ 254210460 230604168 23606292 91% /vol/vol0/ /vol/vol0/.snapshot 0 0 0 ---% /vol/vol0/.snapshot thanks art hebert -----Original Message----- From: Todd C. Merrill [mailto:tmerrill@mathworks.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:10 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: widelinks Greetings. If anyone is using the feature of ONTAP called "widelinks," can you speak up, or email me privately? Widelinks are a way to allow CIFS clients to follow UNIX symbolic links between *differnet* filers. It sounds cool, and the config looks straightforward, but I can't seem to get it to work. http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel633/html/ontap/sag/multi8. htm Until next time... The MathWorks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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RE: SNMP values keeps changing after every reboot. any solution to fix this?
by Carl Friend 05 Nov '03

05 Nov '03

Michel Geldenhuys writes: > I discussed this few weeks ago with a NetApp engineer. > Unfortunately, this is a "by-design" behaviour: MIB values > are loaded during boot and in a random fashion so there is no > way to forecast (or enforce) what MIB index will be for a > particular volume. The interesting thing about this is that the behaviour changed in ONTAP 6.3 and beyond. ONTAP 6.2 had the volumes sorted so they always appeared in the same order for both a "df" and for SNMP. Does anyone know _why_ they changed it? +----------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ | Carl Richard Friend (UNIX Sysadmin) | Natick, Massachusetts | | Minicomputer Collector / Enthusiast | 01760-2098 | | mailto:carl_friend@mathworks.com +-----------------------+ | http://users.rcn.com/crfriend/museum | ICBM: 42:18N 71:21W | +----------------------------------------------+-----------------------+

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RE: F760 fails to pass POST, bad DIMM
by DFinn＠studentadvantage.com 05 Nov '03

05 Nov '03

does anyone know what J30s pair is? We removed J30 and tried to boot it up and then it complained about J28. We then removed J28 and it wouldn't even attempt to boot. -----Original Message----- From: McCarthy, Tim [mailto:timothy.mccarthy@netapp.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:50 AM To: DFinn(a)studentadvantage.com Subject: RE: F760 fails to pass POST, bad DIMM As was mentioned, the J30 DIMM is marked on the motherboard. Try reseating the memory module and see if you get past it. If not, remove the memory module. Realize: you are running with half of your memory as the system uses the modules in pairs...removing one effectively removes two. If you have a large capacity system, you may run into problems as well.... --tmac -----Original Message----- From: DFinn(a)studentadvantage.com [mailto:DFinn@studentadvantage.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:33 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: F760 fails to pass POST, bad DIMM here's the error on bootup: Alpha Open Firmware by FirmWorks Copyright 1995-2000 FirmWorks, Network Appliance. All Rights Reserved. Firmware release 2.8_a2 Memory size is 1024 MB Testing SIO Testing LCD Probing devices Testing 1024MB Clearing ECC Stuck-at:283MB,3 Replace DIMM J30 Startup aborted Unfortunately I do not currently have support from Netapp for this filer so I need to find a short term solution to my problem. The error above points out the bad dimm that needs replacement. 1. Can I just remove the bad dimm and run with less memory temporarily? 2. I have a spare F740 that I can rob parts from, can I take a DIMM from there and replace the bad one in this F760? 3. How do I locate DIMM J30? any and all help is really apprecaited. Thanks Dan

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RE: Data ONTAP Upgrade
by Sam Schorr 04 Nov '03

04 Nov '03

For all the inquiring minds, I found this under the download section: ********************************************************************** DEBUG PATCH RELEASE 6.3.1D8 Based on release 6.3.1 ********************************************************************** This is a DEBUG patch, which means it has fixes that have not been released in a regular software version yet. These fixes, if validated, will be checked in and released in a future release after adequate QA and testing. Fixes contained in this patch release are: 85294 Ineffective nlm GRANTED requested (callback) 78177 Renaming a small number of files repeatedly causes WAFL dir size to grow 83697 CPU at 100% after 6.2.1 upgrade from 6.1.3R1, with low NFS Ops and Disk Ops 80286 Problem accessing ~snapshot directory when using the "nosymlink_strict_security" share option 82176 File access can fail when using a widelink that maps to a share that supports widelinks 78570 Slow FTP performance with clustering enabled. 80332 SNMP may stop responding after accessing miscGlobalStatus on FAS9xx appliances. 81905 kma.c crash in wafl_zombie_growfile_handler 83681 CIFS file owner may be set incorrectly 85651 CIFS SETUP fails with "DSA is unwilling to perform" 85653 can't set file attributes when restoring with Veritas NetBackup 81631 isp2100 not handling port_logged_out status correctly for CT requests 86862 Master filer panic during takeover - memory leak from dup_user_field() 86464 Volume SnapMirror from an F840,F880,F9XX to a platform other than F840,F880 or F9XX on restarting may lead to corruption on destination. -----Original Message----- From: Hill, Aaron [mailto:aaron.hill@navitaire.com] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 2:14 PM To: 'Chris Blackmor' Cc: 'Paul McGuinness (ext. 771)'; 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Data ONTAP Upgrade Hey there, I welcome questions. Unfortunately, my answers may not be sufficient to satisfy your mental hunger. To be honest, I don't know exactly what the D8 does. I was informed that it fixes the snapmirror code. The error was found to occur only in our "specific" circumstance. So what was/is our circumstance? 1) F880 source snapmirroring 3 batch area volumes to an F820 target across a 20Mbit Ethernet WAN. 2) The amount of data change per day is high. Approximately 10-40Gb per volume. 3) We were experiencing poor throughput across the WAN link (carrier issue) and had to frequently abort the snapmirror and delete snapshots from the F880 source in order to prevent snapshot space over-running production data space. This throughput has since been addressed (before D8). 4) The F820 target panicked a couple of times and dumped to the ok prompt. One of the target volumes was found to be corrupt. It was difficult to say if the source filer caused it or the target filer developed the corruption independently. We had some cases open and ran wafl checks and scans on both filers as a result. No errors were turned up. 5) The crash dump file was ftp'd to NetApp. This lead to the 6.3.1D8 debug release. When I get some more time, I might read into it a bit further. For now, I am more than happy that they have addressed the issue and fixed it very quickly. We have not had any problems with 6.3.1 or the D8 releases. Thanks, Aaron -----Original Message----- From: Chris Blackmor [mailto:chris.blackmor@amd.com] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 6:48 AM To: Hill, Aaron Cc: 'Paul McGuinness (ext. 771)'; 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Re: Data ONTAP Upgrade What does the D8 fix for snapmirror? Inquiring minds want to know. ;) C- On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:18:19PM -0600, Hill, Aaron wrote: > We are running 6.3.1 on one filer (F880) and 6.3.1D8 (debug release for a > snapmirror problem we were having) on another (F820). 2 others still running > 6.2.2 I believe. > > As far as I know, all new F960s being shipped have 6.3.1 on them. > > So overall, I have to say I recommend it. If you are snapmirroring, make > sure you put 6.3.1D8 on your destination filer, that is the advice from our > NetApp representative. > > Thanks, > Aaron Hill > Systems Engineer > www.navitaire.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul McGuinness (ext. 771) [mailto:Paul.McGuinness@fineos.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 2:58 AM > To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > Subject: Data ONTAP Upgrade > > Hi, > I have a F720 currently running on Data ONTAP 6.1.2R2 and everything is > running fine. > My question is to those of you 6.6.2 (the current GA release) and those of > you on 6.3.1. > > I was going to upgrade to 6.2.2, just to keep my system up to date, but > according to the NOW site there are a good few more active systems running > 6.3.1. > > Would 6.3.1 be a better upgrade to go to? I also see that there is now a 6.4 > first customer shipment release (12th Feb) but I think I'll leave that for > those of you who have filers to play with.... > :o) > > So 6.6.2 or 6.3.1? > > > > > > ************************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential, > may be privileged and is intended only for the use of the > recipient named above. If you are not the intended > recipient or a representative of the intended recipient, > you have received this e-mail in error and must not copy, > use or disclose the contents of this email to anybody > else. If you have received this e-mail in error, please > notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and > permanently delete the copy you received. This email has > been swept for computer viruses. However, you should > carry out your own virus checks. > > > Registered in Ireland, No. 205721. http://www.FINEOS.com > ************************************************************************** -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- * Chris Blackmor _______ | * * Advanced Micro Devices \____ | | Toto... I've * * Phone: (512) 602-1608 /| | | | a feeling we're * * Fax: (512) 602-5155 | |___| | | not in Kansas * * Email: chris.blackmor(a)amd.com |____/ \| | anymore. * -------------------------------------------------------------------- * My comments are mine, and mine alone. * --------------------------------------------------------------------

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