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RE: using NDMP for backups
by SKIP HOFMANN 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

Dang good to know! Thanks again Skip _____ From: Timothy Sesow [mailto:tsesow@nsllc.com] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:27 PM To: SKIP HOFMANN; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: using NDMP for backups Just as an aside, don't use TDK media in the Scalar 24 library. The center of gravity on the cartridge is a little different than the others (eg, Fuji) and the Scalar 24 will sometimes not detect the presence of the tape cartridges in a slot due to placement of the sensor in the library. Not TDK's fault really, just a matter of compatibility. This was my biggest problem in getting a Scalar 24 hooked up to the NetApp (tapes just kept appearing and disappearing from the inventory). Tim Sesow VP Engineering 303-948-3360 cell 303-809-8070 -----Original Message----- From: SKIP HOFMANN [mailto:SKIP.HOFMANN@ttisg.com] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:24 PM To: Timothy Sesow; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: using NDMP for backups Hey thanks very much for the info, it is very helpful. Skip _____ From: Timothy Sesow [mailto:tsesow@nsllc.com] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:16 PM To: SKIP HOFMANN; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: using NDMP for backups #1 - You can attach on of the drives from the Scalar 24 directly to the NetApp (I have used this library with NetApp before and it works fine). You can also attach the robotics (Medium Changer) to the NetApp, too, if you wish to have the whole library on the NetApp. NDMP will recognize any/all of the devices and export them over the network for Veritas NetBackup to find. #2 - You can use "dump", but you have to move the cartridges in and out of the drive yourself. "dump" is really focused on a tape drive, not a full tape library. If you use Veritas, you wouldn't use the "dump" command, and NetBackup (I don't know about BackupExec) can move the media for you. NetBackup does not call "dump", it uses it's own commands over the network to the NetApp, where the NDMP task on the NetApp then writes/reads the tape. #3 - You need to get someone else on the list to answer this fully, but I don't think there is any way to schedule backups on a NetApp with "dump". Tim Sesow VP Engineering 303-948-3360 cell 303-809-8070 -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of SKIP HOFMANN Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:54 PM To: ''toasters(a)mathworks.com' ' Subject: using NDMP for backups Hi all Currently we have a R200, that house around a TB of data. We are currently using Veritas 9.1 to do the backups over cifs shares, using this method our backups jobs take a very long time to complete, and I have heard that this method is not really a supported one or the preferred method. I would like to use NDMP to backup my data. I have a few questions about this method. #1 are backup tape device is an adic scalar 24. The tape drive is a IBM ULTRIUM-TD2. Using NDMP can I hang this tape device right off the R200 and just use the "dump" command? #2 we currently use Veritas software, can I continue to use this application if I'm using NDMP, or should I just use Dump? #3 Can I use the dump command to do incremental backups and schedule backups. Thanks for any information Skip Skip Hofmann Senior Network Administrator TetraTech Skip.Hofmann(a)ttisg.com <mailto:Skip.Hofmann@ttisg.com> 949 500 5286 cell 949 608 5801 office

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RE: using NDMP for backups
by Timothy Sesow 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

Just as an aside, don't use TDK media in the Scalar 24 library. The center of gravity on the cartridge is a little different than the others (eg, Fuji) and the Scalar 24 will sometimes not detect the presence of the tape cartridges in a slot due to placement of the sensor in the library. Not TDK's fault really, just a matter of compatibility. This was my biggest problem in getting a Scalar 24 hooked up to the NetApp (tapes just kept appearing and disappearing from the inventory). Tim Sesow VP Engineering 303-948-3360 cell 303-809-8070 -----Original Message----- From: SKIP HOFMANN [mailto:SKIP.HOFMANN@ttisg.com] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:24 PM To: Timothy Sesow; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: using NDMP for backups Hey thanks very much for the info, it is very helpful. Skip _____ From: Timothy Sesow [mailto:tsesow@nsllc.com] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:16 PM To: SKIP HOFMANN; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: using NDMP for backups #1 - You can attach on of the drives from the Scalar 24 directly to the NetApp (I have used this library with NetApp before and it works fine). You can also attach the robotics (Medium Changer) to the NetApp, too, if you wish to have the whole library on the NetApp. NDMP will recognize any/all of the devices and export them over the network for Veritas NetBackup to find. #2 - You can use "dump", but you have to move the cartridges in and out of the drive yourself. "dump" is really focused on a tape drive, not a full tape library. If you use Veritas, you wouldn't use the "dump" command, and NetBackup (I don't know about BackupExec) can move the media for you. NetBackup does not call "dump", it uses it's own commands over the network to the NetApp, where the NDMP task on the NetApp then writes/reads the tape. #3 - You need to get someone else on the list to answer this fully, but I don't think there is any way to schedule backups on a NetApp with "dump". Tim Sesow VP Engineering 303-948-3360 cell 303-809-8070 -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of SKIP HOFMANN Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:54 PM To: ''toasters(a)mathworks.com' ' Subject: using NDMP for backups Hi all Currently we have a R200, that house around a TB of data. We are currently using Veritas 9.1 to do the backups over cifs shares, using this method our backups jobs take a very long time to complete, and I have heard that this method is not really a supported one or the preferred method. I would like to use NDMP to backup my data. I have a few questions about this method. #1 are backup tape device is an adic scalar 24. The tape drive is a IBM ULTRIUM-TD2. Using NDMP can I hang this tape device right off the R200 and just use the "dump" command? #2 we currently use Veritas software, can I continue to use this application if I'm using NDMP, or should I just use Dump? #3 Can I use the dump command to do incremental backups and schedule backups. Thanks for any information Skip Skip Hofmann Senior Network Administrator TetraTech Skip.Hofmann(a)ttisg.com 949 500 5286 cell 949 608 5801 office

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RE: using NDMP for backups
by SKIP HOFMANN 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

Hey thanks very much for the info, it is very helpful. Skip _____ From: Timothy Sesow [mailto:tsesow@nsllc.com] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:16 PM To: SKIP HOFMANN; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: using NDMP for backups #1 - You can attach on of the drives from the Scalar 24 directly to the NetApp (I have used this library with NetApp before and it works fine). You can also attach the robotics (Medium Changer) to the NetApp, too, if you wish to have the whole library on the NetApp. NDMP will recognize any/all of the devices and export them over the network for Veritas NetBackup to find. #2 - You can use "dump", but you have to move the cartridges in and out of the drive yourself. "dump" is really focused on a tape drive, not a full tape library. If you use Veritas, you wouldn't use the "dump" command, and NetBackup (I don't know about BackupExec) can move the media for you. NetBackup does not call "dump", it uses it's own commands over the network to the NetApp, where the NDMP task on the NetApp then writes/reads the tape. #3 - You need to get someone else on the list to answer this fully, but I don't think there is any way to schedule backups on a NetApp with "dump". Tim Sesow VP Engineering 303-948-3360 cell 303-809-8070 -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of SKIP HOFMANN Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:54 PM To: ''toasters(a)mathworks.com' ' Subject: using NDMP for backups Hi all Currently we have a R200, that house around a TB of data. We are currently using Veritas 9.1 to do the backups over cifs shares, using this method our backups jobs take a very long time to complete, and I have heard that this method is not really a supported one or the preferred method. I would like to use NDMP to backup my data. I have a few questions about this method. #1 are backup tape device is an adic scalar 24. The tape drive is a IBM ULTRIUM-TD2. Using NDMP can I hang this tape device right off the R200 and just use the "dump" command? #2 we currently use Veritas software, can I continue to use this application if I'm using NDMP, or should I just use Dump? #3 Can I use the dump command to do incremental backups and schedule backups. Thanks for any information Skip Skip Hofmann Senior Network Administrator TetraTech Skip.Hofmann(a)ttisg.com <mailto:Skip.Hofmann@ttisg.com> 949 500 5286 cell 949 608 5801 office

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RE: using NDMP for backups
by Timothy Sesow 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

#1 - You can attach on of the drives from the Scalar 24 directly to the NetApp (I have used this library with NetApp before and it works fine). You can also attach the robotics (Medium Changer) to the NetApp, too, if you wish to have the whole library on the NetApp. NDMP will recognize any/all of the devices and export them over the network for Veritas NetBackup to find. #2 - You can use "dump", but you have to move the cartridges in and out of the drive yourself. "dump" is really focused on a tape drive, not a full tape library. If you use Veritas, you wouldn't use the "dump" command, and NetBackup (I don't know about BackupExec) can move the media for you. NetBackup does not call "dump", it uses it's own commands over the network to the NetApp, where the NDMP task on the NetApp then writes/reads the tape. #3 - You need to get someone else on the list to answer this fully, but I don't think there is any way to schedule backups on a NetApp with "dump". Tim Sesow VP Engineering 303-948-3360 cell 303-809-8070 -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of SKIP HOFMANN Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:54 PM To: ''toasters(a)mathworks.com' ' Subject: using NDMP for backups Hi all Currently we have a R200, that house around a TB of data. We are currently using Veritas 9.1 to do the backups over cifs shares, using this method our backups jobs take a very long time to complete, and I have heard that this method is not really a supported one or the preferred method. I would like to use NDMP to backup my data. I have a few questions about this method. #1 are backup tape device is an adic scalar 24. The tape drive is a IBM ULTRIUM-TD2. Using NDMP can I hang this tape device right off the R200 and just use the "dump" command? #2 we currently use Veritas software, can I continue to use this application if I'm using NDMP, or should I just use Dump? #3 Can I use the dump command to do incremental backups and schedule backups. Thanks for any information Skip Skip Hofmann Senior Network Administrator TetraTech Skip.Hofmann(a)ttisg.com 949 500 5286 cell 949 608 5801 office

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using NDMP for backups
by SKIP HOFMANN 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

Hi all Currently we have a R200, that house around a TB of data. We are currently using Veritas 9.1 to do the backups over cifs shares, using this method our backups jobs take a very long time to complete, and I have heard that this method is not really a supported one or the preferred method. I would like to use NDMP to backup my data. I have a few questions about this method. #1 are backup tape device is an adic scalar 24. The tape drive is a IBM ULTRIUM-TD2. Using NDMP can I hang this tape device right off the R200 and just use the "dump" command? #2 we currently use Veritas software, can I continue to use this application if I'm using NDMP, or should I just use Dump? #3 Can I use the dump command to do incremental backups and schedule backups. Thanks for any information Skip Skip Hofmann Senior Network Administrator TetraTech Skip.Hofmann(a)ttisg.com <mailto:Skip.Hofmann@ttisg.com> 949 500 5286 cell 949 608 5801 office

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OnTap 6.5.2/6.5.2P6/6.5.2R1 ?
by Simon Ferrett 13 Sep '04

13 Sep '04

Hi Folks, Last week I updated my three nearstore units to 6.5.2 after experiencing a shelf-hang issue on two of them. That got me to thinking about updating another system (a F840 running 6.1R1 - it's been up forever, about 420 days) since it's running such an old version of OnTap and some of the clients here in the office are migrating to to XP-SP2. Anyhow - looking on the NOW site I noticed there are a few critical bugs in 6.5.2 which are supposed to be fixed in 6.5.2R1 - which doesn't exist yet. 6.5.2P6 does exist, however, so I was curious if I should wait until P6 becomes R1 before upgrading? I hate to rock the boat on a system which has been up and stable for a year and a half, but with XP-SP2 clients coming online I'm sure there's going to be some issues come up with the old 6.1 version its running. Also I was curious if I should also re-update the 6.5.2 systems I have to R1 when it comes out just to be sure that I'm not going to hit any of the known issues in 6.5.2 on them. Is anyone running 6.5.2P6 here on the list or have any comments about the actual critical-ness of those bugs in 6.5.2 which have been fixed in P6 (or R1 when it becomes available) - or know when 6.5.2R1 might hit the streets? The NOW site says 'this week' but I'm not sure when the document was authored... Just curious what the general consensus was on 6.5.2/6.5.2R1 etc. Cheers, Simon. --- This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient or his/her representative, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

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12 Sep '04

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RE: Confusing trusted domain authentication problem
by Mike Sphar 10 Sep '04

10 Sep '04

Unfortunately I have limited visibility to the corporate domains, but I believe they are Win2K domains running in native mode. It's possible though that the NEWCORP domain might be Windows 2003 now. I don't see any errors on the F230. I've even got the auth subsystem logging configured for full debug logging but I'm not seeing anything logged when I make a failed authentication attempt. I do have concerns about WINS though. There seems to be some confusion about what, if any, WINS servers are being supported by the corporate folks at this point. (In fact, one of the WINS servers being handed out by DHCP doesn't even exist.) -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Remedy, a BMC Software Company -----Original Message----- From: Jack Lyons [mailto:jack.lyons@martinagency.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 5:44 PM To: Mike Sphar; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Confusing trusted domain authentication problem What are the versions of domains you are using (I assume Win2K AD) including Service Packs are you getting any error messages on the F230? make sure that the WINS stuff is correct for all domains. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Sphar" <mike.sphar(a)Remedy.COM> To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 6:04 PM Subject: Confusing trusted domain authentication problem > Don't know if anyone has any suggestions for this fairly annoying problem, > but I'm happy to hear any. > > We've got a development domain here called (for example) ENG, that has for > years trusted the corporate domain CORP. My three netapps are members of > the ENG domain and any user in CORP can authenticate on those servers via a > one-way trust. (ENG trusts CORP, CORP does not trust ENG). > > We've got a new corporate domain NEWCORP being migrated to, and ENG also has > a one-way trust to NEWCORP. > > Now, everything seems to work fine, *except* for my one very old Netapp F230 > running 5.3.7R3D18. (I know, way old and end-of-lifed, we're trying to > replace it.) > > My NEWCORP account can authenticate against my newer netapps, but when I try > to connect to the F230, or to a snapserver or a unix server running samba, > the authentication fails. So basically it looks like authentication is > working for the Netapps running a current OS release and for regular windows > servers, but not for 3rd party servers. If we make the samba server > authenticate against CORP instead of ENG, then the NEWCORP accounts seem to > work. > > It seems like there must be something different about the ENG -> NEWCORP and > ENG -> CORP trusts, or some obscure authentication permissions thing, but we > can't figure out what the problem is. (And our primary windows admin is on > vacation.) > > Anyone out there more knowledgeable about trusts and domains (I'm mainly a > unix guy) have any suggestions? > > -- > Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Remedy, a BMC Software Company >

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Confusing trusted domain authentication problem
by Mike Sphar 10 Sep '04

10 Sep '04

Don't know if anyone has any suggestions for this fairly annoying problem, but I'm happy to hear any. We've got a development domain here called (for example) ENG, that has for years trusted the corporate domain CORP. My three netapps are members of the ENG domain and any user in CORP can authenticate on those servers via a one-way trust. (ENG trusts CORP, CORP does not trust ENG). We've got a new corporate domain NEWCORP being migrated to, and ENG also has a one-way trust to NEWCORP. Now, everything seems to work fine, *except* for my one very old Netapp F230 running 5.3.7R3D18. (I know, way old and end-of-lifed, we're trying to replace it.) My NEWCORP account can authenticate against my newer netapps, but when I try to connect to the F230, or to a snapserver or a unix server running samba, the authentication fails. So basically it looks like authentication is working for the Netapps running a current OS release and for regular windows servers, but not for 3rd party servers. If we make the samba server authenticate against CORP instead of ENG, then the NEWCORP accounts seem to work. It seems like there must be something different about the ENG -> NEWCORP and ENG -> CORP trusts, or some obscure authentication permissions thing, but we can't figure out what the problem is. (And our primary windows admin is on vacation.) Anyone out there more knowledgeable about trusts and domains (I'm mainly a unix guy) have any suggestions? -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Remedy, a BMC Software Company

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ToasterView 0.1
by Ben Rockwood 10 Sep '04

10 Sep '04

Thanks for all the feedback. I didn't expect so many people to be interested. It needs some cleanup, several extra checks (like making sure your actually talking to a filer, right now it just assumes you know what your doing), and goodies, but it works well enough. You can find the page for it here: http://www.cuddletech.com/code/toasterview/index.html I'll probly makes some improvements and push out a new version next week. In the mean time I'm extending it to do application specific stuff that isn't portable (integration of MRTG graphs, RRD, etc). Thanks for the suggestions that were recieved. I avoid quota's like the plegue but I'm sure I could put in something useful. And I'll add performance data at least in a basic form for the next version. Thanks for all the feedback. This is GPL code, so please feel free to hack it up or bend it to your own purposes as long as you respect the terms of the GPL. benr.

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