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Re: A dead f840 ???
by Constantin Bogomolnyi 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Hi , i disagree on this point , i have another 840 it does not have this problem it go by its post check (sensor , watchog , pci scan , memory test , load os) and then it stop and scream : Charging battery dont move ... press control C to abort the charger . Then it resume the boot , once the battery is full . but this 840 simply "freeze" somewhere between pci scan and memory test , nothing else . is it a normal ? CB On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 09:49:34AM -0400, July@Zerowait wrote: > I'm getting into this rather late, but has anyone told you yet that you need > to charge the NVRAM battery in all F800 series filers before use? It > usually takes 12-18 hrs to recharge and you CANNOT use the filer until this > is done. There are instructions on how to do this on the NOW site. A new > battery will come uncharged usually, so you'd have the same issue. > > July > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Constantin Bogomolnyi" <const(a)carpediem.fr> > To: "Venkat Appineni" <appinenv(a)yahoo-inc.com> > Cc: "Constantin Bogomolnyi" <const(a)carpediem.fr>; "George, Andrew" > <georgea(a)anz.com>; <toasters(a)mathworks.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:42 PM > Subject: Re: A dead f840 ??? > > > > hi, > > > > well this is a workaround ,not a solution :) > > > > but i still dont understand whats wrong , i mean its impossible to destroy > > the mother board its sleeps deeply inside of the filer , i dont see any > > "physcal" domage , all parts still soldered . > > > > wired wired ... > > > > thnks > > cb > > > > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 05:14:20PM -0700, Venkat Appineni wrote: > > > You might have to replace the Motherboard.. Hope you have support on > > > this system with Netapp.. > > > > > > -Venkat > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] > > > On Behalf Of Constantin Bogomolnyi > > > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:43 PM > > > To: George, Andrew > > > Cc: Constantin Bogomolnyi; toasters(a)mathworks.com > > > Subject: Re: A dead f840 ??? > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > the console and the lcd shows the same thing , i mean it depend of how > > > loaded it is , > > > if i leave all cards inside and so pci scan takes longer than if there > > > is no card inside > > > to it freeze at the pci scan , if i remove all cards , it jumps until > > > Testing Memory and freeze at this point > > > so its undependant of the boot stage , but dependant on the number of > > > seconds since the power on . > > > > > > thanks > > > cb > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 09:09:31AM +1000, George, Andrew wrote: > > > > Hook up the console and see what it says? > > > > Anything showing on the LED display? > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com > > > [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] > > > > On Behalf Of Constantin Bogomolnyi > > > > Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 8:44 AM > > > > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > > > > Subject: A dead f840 ??? > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > i just tried to power up an f840 , it freeze approx 45 sec after the > > > > powerup , i tried to remove all cards , and replugged the ram but it > > > > still freeze exactly after 45 sec . > > > > > > > > it look like some "timer" freeze it after N sec . > > > > > > > > maybe the watchdog ?? > > > > > > > > any ideas ? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > cb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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F720 2 X2030B error
by Leeds, Daniel 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

I put a second copper fibre controller in slot 1 of my F720, slot 8 has the other controller. Slot assignments were looked up on now.netapp.com It gives an error during boot about 2 instances of this card but it does work and see all drives etc. I didn't see anything on NOW that indicated this was an issue or what am I missing here?

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/etc/cifs_homedir.cfg question
by Steve Losen 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

About eight years ago when we first set up a filer for a home directory service we knew that we were going to have 25K - 30K accounts, so we split up our home directory tree using the first two letters in the user name. For example, our home directory root is /vol/vol0/h1 so my "scl" home directory is: /vol/vol0/h1/s/sc/scl Eight years ago "options cifs.home_dir" only allowed you to specify one directory for CIFS to find home directories. We therefore set up a directory of symbolic links, one for each user, like this: /vol/vol0/home/shares/scl -> /vol/vol0/h1/s/sc/scl and did this: options cifs.home_dir /vol/vol0/home/shares This has been working just fine. I see that ONTAP 7.0.1 uses the file /etc/cifs_homdir.cfg to list the directories that contain CIFS home directories and you can list up to 1000. All of our user names begin with two lower case letters, so we have 26 * 26 = 676 directories. So we could list /vol/vol0/h1/a/aa thru /vol/vol0/h1/z/zz in cifs_homdir.cfg . It occurs to me that a sequential scan of so many directories to find a particular home directory could be costly. It might be smarter for us to just list our one big directory of symbolic links. I know that WAFL uses hashed directories, so finding an entry, even in a large directory, is fast. However, ONTAP might build some sort of look up table keyed by user name to avoid sequentially searching a large list of directories. If this is true, then ONTAP would probably construct this lookup table even if we list just one big directory of symbolic links. If the single big directory has no advantage, then we might as well abandon it. Can anyone at netapp offer a recommendation here? Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support

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RE: A dead f840 ???
by Leeds, Daniel 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

You could always try ebay I think they had 840 motherboards for $12,500 this week :) -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Constantin Bogomolnyi Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:42 PM To: Venkat Appineni Cc: Constantin Bogomolnyi; George, Andrew; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: A dead f840 ??? hi, well this is a workaround ,not a solution :) but i still dont understand whats wrong , i mean its impossible to destroy the mother board its sleeps deeply inside of the filer , i dont see any "physcal" domage , all parts still soldered . wired wired ... thnks cb On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 05:14:20PM -0700, Venkat Appineni wrote: > You might have to replace the Motherboard.. Hope you have support on > this system with Netapp.. > > -Venkat > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] > On Behalf Of Constantin Bogomolnyi > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:43 PM > To: George, Andrew > Cc: Constantin Bogomolnyi; toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: A dead f840 ??? > > Hi, > > the console and the lcd shows the same thing , i mean it depend of how > loaded it is , > if i leave all cards inside and so pci scan takes longer than if there > is no card inside > to it freeze at the pci scan , if i remove all cards , it jumps until > Testing Memory and freeze at this point > so its undependant of the boot stage , but dependant on the number of > seconds since the power on . > > thanks > cb > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 09:09:31AM +1000, George, Andrew wrote: > > Hook up the console and see what it says? > > Anything showing on the LED display? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com > [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] > > On Behalf Of Constantin Bogomolnyi > > Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 8:44 AM > > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > > Subject: A dead f840 ??? > > > > Hi, > > > > i just tried to power up an f840 , it freeze approx 45 sec after the > > powerup , i tried to remove all cards , and replugged the ram but it > > still freeze exactly after 45 sec . > > > > it look like some "timer" freeze it after N sec . > > > > maybe the watchdog ?? > > > > any ideas ? > > > > thanks > > cb > > > > > > > >

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RE: A dead f840 ???
by Venkat Appineni 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

You might have to replace the Motherboard.. Hope you have support on this system with Netapp.. -Venkat -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Constantin Bogomolnyi Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:43 PM To: George, Andrew Cc: Constantin Bogomolnyi; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: A dead f840 ??? Hi, the console and the lcd shows the same thing , i mean it depend of how loaded it is , if i leave all cards inside and so pci scan takes longer than if there is no card inside to it freeze at the pci scan , if i remove all cards , it jumps until Testing Memory and freeze at this point so its undependant of the boot stage , but dependant on the number of seconds since the power on . thanks cb On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 09:09:31AM +1000, George, Andrew wrote: > Hook up the console and see what it says? > Anything showing on the LED display? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] > On Behalf Of Constantin Bogomolnyi > Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 8:44 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: A dead f840 ??? > > Hi, > > i just tried to power up an f840 , it freeze approx 45 sec after the > powerup , i tried to remove all cards , and replugged the ram but it > still freeze exactly after 45 sec . > > it look like some "timer" freeze it after N sec . > > maybe the watchdog ?? > > any ideas ? > > thanks > cb > > >

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RE: A dead f840 ???
by Derek Lai 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

How long was it unplugged? The NV-RAM battery might be dead, which will cause you problem on booting up. However, usually you will see message on console. Derek -----Original Message----- From: Constantin Bogomolnyi [mailto:const@carpediem.fr] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:43 PM To: George, Andrew Cc: Constantin Bogomolnyi; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: A dead f840 ??? Hi, the console and the lcd shows the same thing , i mean it depend of how loaded it is , if i leave all cards inside and so pci scan takes longer than if there is no card inside to it freeze at the pci scan , if i remove all cards , it jumps until Testing Memory and freeze at this point so its undependant of the boot stage , but dependant on the number of seconds since the power on . thanks cb On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 09:09:31AM +1000, George, Andrew wrote: > Hook up the console and see what it says? > Anything showing on the LED display? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com > [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] > On Behalf Of Constantin Bogomolnyi > Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 8:44 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: A dead f840 ??? > > Hi, > > i just tried to power up an f840 , it freeze approx 45 sec after the > powerup , i tried to remove all cards , and replugged the ram but it > still freeze exactly after 45 sec . > > it look like some "timer" freeze it after N sec . > > maybe the watchdog ?? > > any ideas ? > > thanks > cb > > >

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RE: A dead f840 ???
by Leeds, Daniel 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

I recently picked up an F720 that had been off for over a year or two. The batteries were dead but it was still bootable but would complain. Fun part was I zeroed the disks and went through the ontapp install just fine and upon reboot it would shut itself down after spitting out nvram warning messages and there is no way to override this in 6.5.x so off to buy batteries I went. Everything works fine now that new batteries are in. Im not sure why yours is acting up if its just the nvram battery -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Constantin Bogomolnyi Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:05 PM To: Derek Lai Cc: 'Constantin Bogomolnyi'; George, Andrew; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: A dead f840 ??? it was unplugged for more than one year as far as i know i will try to replace the battery , but i dont understand why it should bug it so much , i mean its a backup battery after , if its dead its not a problem , just nvram is dead right ? also i see there is a huge plumb rechargable battery inside , what its for ? thanks cb On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 04:57:34PM -0700, Derek Lai wrote: > How long was it unplugged? The NV-RAM battery might be dead, which will > cause you problem on booting up. However, usually you will see message on > console. > > > Derek > > -----Original Message----- > From: Constantin Bogomolnyi [mailto:const@carpediem.fr] > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:43 PM > To: George, Andrew > Cc: Constantin Bogomolnyi; toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: A dead f840 ??? > > Hi, > > the console and the lcd shows the same thing , i mean it depend of how > loaded it is , if i leave all cards inside and so pci scan takes longer than > if there is no card inside to it freeze at the pci scan , if i remove all > cards , it jumps until Testing Memory and freeze at this point so its > undependant of the boot stage , but dependant on the number of seconds since > the power on . > > thanks > cb > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 09:09:31AM +1000, George, Andrew wrote: > > Hook up the console and see what it says? > > Anything showing on the LED display? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com > > [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] > > On Behalf Of Constantin Bogomolnyi > > Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 8:44 AM > > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > > Subject: A dead f840 ??? > > > > Hi, > > > > i just tried to power up an f840 , it freeze approx 45 sec after the > > powerup , i tried to remove all cards , and replugged the ram but it > > still freeze exactly after 45 sec . > > > > it look like some "timer" freeze it after N sec . > > > > maybe the watchdog ?? > > > > any ideas ? > > > > thanks > > cb > > > > > > >

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Re: A dead f840 ???
by Constantin Bogomolnyi 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

Hi, the console and the lcd shows the same thing , i mean it depend of how loaded it is , if i leave all cards inside and so pci scan takes longer than if there is no card inside to it freeze at the pci scan , if i remove all cards , it jumps until Testing Memory and freeze at this point so its undependant of the boot stage , but dependant on the number of seconds since the power on . thanks cb On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 09:09:31AM +1000, George, Andrew wrote: > Hook up the console and see what it says? > Anything showing on the LED display? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] > On Behalf Of Constantin Bogomolnyi > Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 8:44 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: A dead f840 ??? > > Hi, > > i just tried to power up an f840 , it freeze approx 45 sec after the > powerup , i tried to remove all cards , and replugged the ram but it > still freeze exactly after 45 sec . > > it look like some "timer" freeze it after N sec . > > maybe the watchdog ?? > > any ideas ? > > thanks > cb > > >

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