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Re: Anitvirus on netapp
by Marianne Lindberg 30 Jan '01

30 Jan '01

I'd be curious about what everyone (who has CIFS data on their Filers) is using as well. We're using Network Associates' (nee McAfee) Netshield from an NT Server. The Server version does allow you to scan network drives. You might find that a different version of Norton would do the same. What about everyone else? Regards, Marianne uwe_goebel(a)mentorg.com 01/30/01 03:09 AM To: toasters@mathworks.com@Internet cc: (bcc: Marianne Lindberg/Americas/NSC) Subject: Anitvirus on netapp Hi there, I'm curious how everybody is checking against viruses at the filers. We tried to use a PC were NAV is installed and configured NAV to check network drives, but unfortunatly it doesn't check the network drives. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanx --- Uwe GOEBEL System & Network Administrator Information Technology Mentor Graphics Deutschland GmbH <mailto:uwe_goebel@mentor.com> uwe_goebel(a)mentor.com

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Anitvirus on netapp
by Goebel, Uwe 30 Jan '01

30 Jan '01

Hi there, I'm curious how everybody is checking against viruses at the filers. We tried to use a PC were NAV is installed and configured NAV to check network drives, but unfortunatly it doesn't check the network drives. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanx --- Uwe GOEBEL System & Network Administrator Information Technology Mentor Graphics Deutschland GmbH <mailto:uwe_goebel@mentor.com> uwe_goebel(a)mentor.com

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NDMP backup usind jumbo frames
by Thaller Horst (MDCA Villach) 30 Jan '01

30 Jan '01

Who has experiences with NDMP-Backups in a private network using jumbo frames (Gigabit Ethernet Controller II)? Who knows the optimal MTU size for a filer-filer-communication (ndmp between f840c and f740c)? Does the ndmp-client use jumbo frames? I have heard, that jumbo frames reduces the CPU overhead. What are the impacts, e.g. for the backup speed? Thanks, Horst Thaller Infineon Technologies Microelectronic Design Centers Austria GmbH Design Center Villach Siemensstrasse 2, A-9500 Villach Tel. ++43 4242 305-6212 Fax ++43 4242 305-6389 email: Horst.Thaller(a)infineon.com internet: www.infineon.com/ezmvi

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WTB - Used NetApp
by grey jolly 29 Jan '01

29 Jan '01

Hi: Do any of you end users have extra FC9 shelves with 18GB or 36 GB drives that you would like to sell? If so please drop me an email with quantities available for purchase. Thanks, Grey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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Migration Strategies, what are you doing?
by John Stoffel 29 Jan '01

29 Jan '01

Hi guys, I've been mulling over migration strategies, and babysitting a migration from a F520 with four shelves of 9gb disks to an F740 with three shelves of 36Gb disks. It's a pain. ndmpcopy works great for level 0, but has had problems with level 1 copies in my experience. So I'm using rsync 2.4.6 to do the level 1 copies of data to keep things upto date. But it tends to hang, so I have to babysit it all the time. Not good. Now I know I could use snapmirror to make this migration painless, but that would mean that I'd have to dedicate two 36gb disks on my F740 to the root volume, and then make a second volume with the remaining disks, leaving one spare of course. So I'm losing capacity, but I'm starting to think that this is the way to go, if only to keep my sanity. And I have another migration to do from an F330 to an F740 with one shelf of disks. In that case, I *really* don't want to dedicate two 35Gb disks to the root vol, and the rest are in a data volume. So what should I do? ------------------------------------ So what are other people doing when they have to migrate 200-300gb of data from an older netapp to an F740? Are you making a small root volume, and then putting the rest of the disks into a new volume so you can do snap-mirror to cut down the hassles? Are you just doing what I'm doing now, which is ndmpcopy and rsycn? Are you just shutting down and doing a dump/restore or level 0 ndmpcopy and to hell with the downtime? Or is there a secret source of 2gb FC-AL disks that I can put into an FC9 shelf for my root volume? What I'd like to see from NetApp. ------------------------------------- With the growth in size of disks, I think it's time to re-think how the root volume is managed and configured. The NetApps are there to serve data, and should be even more optimized for that role. But I should not have to sacrifice disk space to make data migrations work smoothly because I need to dedicate two of my large data disks to my root volume, which only takes what, 1gb at most? Heh, I just looked at /etc/ on my F740, it's only 58mb of stuff. It would be great if NetApp would start putting in a pair of PCMCIA slots on the front panel to hold the root volume. Each slot would hold a solid-state 120mb (or bigger) disk, which would only do the root volume. No moving parts, it's mirrored, etc. Nice and simple. Heck, they could just keep using the WAFL filesystem on there and take the hit. I'd even go for *three* slots so I can keep a hot spare online. Then we'd have a dedicated data volume using all the big, slow disks for my data storage. Instantly, you'd make migrations of data much faster and easier since we would cut around the snapmirror limitations of using the root volume as the destination. Another silly idea. -------------------- Or how about the ability to snapmirror qtrees to a root volume on another system? That would be great too! And no need to change the hardware setup as I propose above, it would just *work* right out of the box. Summary ---------------- Please Give me feedback on my migration, I'm so darn tempted to just lose two disks in my root volume and stuff the rest into a data volume. To hell with the wasted space, my time is more costly. Thanks, John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-952-7548

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RE: Data Migration Question
by Benn, Paul 29 Jan '01

29 Jan '01

Hi Jim, A number of tools exist for migrating NDS to AD or even NT domains but unfortunately the data migration process is a manual one. Using Backup Exec is a good idea because you'll end up with a backup of the data. It does, as you obviously know, take over twice as long to migrate the data. The best way to do this is to migrate the user data over in groups [of users]. Use one or more powerful workstations with dual redirectors installed to move the data. Once moved, set the permissions manually. It does seem tedious but if you break up the migrations into groups and then do it over several weekends, it's not so painful (I've actually lived through it). If you get a couple of admins in working in parallel, this can go pretty fast. Though (in my experience), the bottleneck is usually the NetWare server, you can tweak the filer a bit so that it performs better while the migration is in process. Take a look at these tweaks from my white paper on IIS: http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3078.html#4.3 Best Regards, Paul Benn Network Appliance -----Original Message----- From: Collins, Jim [mailto:JCollins@sandc.com] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:09 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Data Migration Question I am migrating directories & files from a Novell Server to a F740 box. I am currently using Backup Exec to transfer the data. This is fine for Shared information that everyone has full control on. Can anyone suggest what I might use for Novell data that has user permissions that I would want to maintain on the Netapp side ?

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Data Migration Question
by Collins, Jim 29 Jan '01

29 Jan '01

I am migrating directories & files from a Novell Server to a F740 box. I am currently using Backup Exec to transfer the data. This is fine for Shared information that everyone has full control on. Can anyone suggest what I might use for Novell data that has user permissions that I would want to maintain on the Netapp side ?

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29 Jan '01

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Virus scanning for NetCache?
by Witham, John 26 Jan '01

26 Jan '01

Looks like NetApp and Trend announced a beta version of iCAP enabled InterScan VirusWall today. Anyone got their hands on it yet? I'd love to drop it in for use with our piddly C-1100, but the software doesn't look to be cheap... $5750 for 250 users? Add in a $10K NT box, and if you want redundancy? Ugh. Money starts flying. <http://www.antivirus.com/corporate/media/2001/pr012501.htm> http://www.antivirus.com/corporate/media/2001/pr012501.htm -john

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FS: F760/NFS/CIFS/SnapRestore/14x36gb disks/GB Ethernet
by ScottUCE＠aol.com 25 Jan '01

25 Jan '01

If you have a need for an F760 with NFS/CIFS/SnapRestore software, you can probably get a good deal on this system. The seller is inviting offers. All software licenses on this system will transfer to the buyer without charge. Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 www.unioncomputer.com

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