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NIS group trouble
by Leif Nixon 23 Nov '01

23 Nov '01

It seems my filer (F720, ONTAP 5.3.6R2) caches NIS group lookups even if nis.group_update.enable is set to off. This is what happens when I add the user "testuser" to the group "rally": Initially both a Unix NIS client and the filer agree that the user isn't in the group: UNIX: % ypmatch rally group UNIX: rally:*:31042:jfrid,leif FILER: jar> ypgroup testuser FILER: User "testuser" belongs to the following group(s): FILER: name: testproj gid: 31038 FILER: name: testprod gid: 31039 Then I add the user to the group and do a ypmake. The Unix client immediately picks up the change: UNIX: % ypmatch rally group UNIX: rally:*:31042:jfrid,leif,testuser But the filer doesn't: FILER: jar> ypgroup testuser FILER: User "testuser" belongs to the following group(s): FILER: name: testproj gid: 31038 FILER: name: testprod gid: 31039 The filer is supposed to not cache group lookups: FILER: jar> options nis.group_update.enable FILER: nis.group_update.enable off In this state, the user can access the group's files just fine from an NFS Unix client, but gets "permission denied" when attempting the same from a CIFS client. Clearing the WCC cache with "wcc -x" doesn't help. Trying to manually force a group cache update doesn't work: FILER: jar> options nis.group_update_schedule now FILER: Local NIS group update failed now. NIS group caching is not enabled. The only way out of this state I've found is to enable group caching and then disabling it again. This forces a group update. FILER: jar> options nis.group_update.enable on FILER: Fri Nov 23 14:24:21 MET [rc]: NIS: Group Caching has been enabled FILER: Fri Nov 23 14:24:21 MET [nis_grp_updater]: Local NIS group update successful. FILER: jar> options nis.group_update.enable off FILER: Fri Nov 23 14:24:27 MET [rc]: NIS: Group Caching has been disabled Now the ypgroup command stops working: FILER: jar> ypgroup testuser FILER: NIS Group cache not yet updated. But at least the credential mapping is correct: FILER: jar> wcc -u testuser FILER: (NT - UNIX) account name(s): (SOFTLAB.LIN\testuser - testuser) FILER: *************** FILER: UNIX uid = 31028 FILER: user is a member of group softlab (30100) FILER: user is a member of group rally (31042) FILER: user is a member of group testproj (31038) FILER: user is a member of group testprod (31039) FILER: FILER: NT membership FILER: SOFTLAB.LIN\testuser FILER: SOFTLAB.LIN\Domain Users FILER: SOFTLAB.LIN\Gemini FILER: BUILTIN\Users FILER: User is also a member of Everyone, Network Users, FILER: Authenticated Users FILER: *************** Now the user can access the group's files over both NFS and CIFS. Can anyone make head or tail of this? /Leif Nixon

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Upgrading Snapmirror-System 5.3.7R3 to 6.0.3
by Phil Hill 22 Nov '01

22 Nov '01

Hi all, we are planning tomorrow upgrading two snapmirrored F740s from 5.3.7R3 to 6.0.3 . Questions: 1. Which system do we upgrade first? ( destination or source filer ? ) 2. Turn OFF snapmirror prior to upgrade? 3. At what time can I restart the mirror ? -- after "vol status -c" tells me checksums are active ? Note: This could last probably two weeks until there are no 5.x snapshots anymore. -- or directly after both filers are up with the new Ontap 6.x ? -- is it necessary to delete all snapshots - to speed up the WAFL upgrade on both systems -- or is it ok to delete just the snapshots on the destination filer ? 4. And is there something else to consider ? I did not find any doku on this. Thanks for help and advise Phil

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Help with FTP required
by David Lockwood 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Can anyone tell me whether enabling FTP requires a filer reboot. I am running an F720 and would like to make sure that I do not upset any of our users. Thanks in advance David ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For further information on Benetton Formula 1 visit our web site at www.benettonf1.com. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please destroy and notify Benetton Formula on +44 1608678000." ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Help with FTP required
by Mike Sphar 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

It didn't require a reboot for me. -- Mike Sphar - Iron Chef UNIX - R&D Support Peregrine Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: David Lockwood [mailto:David.Lockwood@benettonformula.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:14 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Help with FTP required Can anyone tell me whether enabling FTP requires a filer reboot. I am running an F720 and would like to make sure that I do not upset any of our users. Thanks in advance David ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For further information on Benetton Formula 1 visit our web site at www.benettonf1.com. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please destroy and notify Benetton Formula on +44 1608678000." ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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mailbox disks invaild ?
by Daniel Jung 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Hi fellow toasters, I am seeing "but takeover of partner is disabled due to reason : mailbox disks invalid." error in messages. We have two F630s that are "suppose" to be clustered (Fiber) but failed due to above problem. Also, there are a lot of "Data underrun" errors on root volume disks in the messages as well. According to the NOW site, I could run fctest to find out if there is any hardware problems which I am planning on doing. Just wondering if anyone has seen this problem or has experienced it before. Thanks for your help. Daniel Jung System Administrator GMO inc

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RE: Advanced Revelation on Netapp
by jwitham＠takedapharm.com 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Flawless NetBIOS boot disk: http://www.bovistech.com/detect.htm Simply edit the autoexec.bat to reflect your workgroup/domain name and you're golden! Autodetects most NICs, randomizes the netbios name, has generic CDROM drivers, disk utilities, etc... It's a real keeper! I've had problems using it to GHOST files UP to the filer, but GHOST sessions fly down. Someone on the list suggested creating another NetBIOS alias and modifying a buffer, but I forgot about it and never tried it... -john John Witham Senior Data Networking Engineer Takeda Pharmaceuticals North America, Inc. V://847.383.3304 F://847.383.3205 mailto://jwitham@takedapharm.com Confucius say he who play as root eventually kill tree -----Original Message----- From: neil lehrer [mailto:nlehrer@ibb.gov] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:34 PM To: MCope(a)isisph.com Cc: Zekeriya Eskiocak; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Advanced Revelation on Netapp if you are running from a dos machine you should be able to use the dos smb drivers from microsoft - the ones that came from lanmanager. if you are using any windows based machine the drivers should be there. MCope(a)isisph.com wrote: > > Zekeriya, > > I would definately be interested in hearing if you get this to work. My > company has a few DOS based lab workstations that I would like to connect > to our Filers. The problem is that there is no utility/driver to provide > the SMB protocol to DOS. You can get the IPX protocol for DOS but the > Filers do not support IPX. We have not tried to build a NetWare server to > act as a gateway though. In theory the DOS system could connect to the > NetWare server using IPX. The NetWare server would have the NFS.nlm > running to connect it to a Filer. I do something similar for our Macintosh > users. I have a Linux box that uses NFS to connect to the Filers and then > it runs the AppleShare protocol as a gateway for the Macs. I do not know > if IPX restricts sharing a share like SMB and NFS do (e.g., an SMB/NFS > client - server or workstation - can not then make that share available to > clients of its own) > > Michael Cope > Unix Systems Administrator > Isis Pharmaceuticals > > > "Zekeriya > Eskiocak" To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> > <zeskiocak@pro-lin cc: > k.net> Subject: Advanced Revelation on Netapp > Sent by: > owner-toasters@mat > hworks.com > > > 11/19/01 12:49 PM > > > > Hi All, > > I tried to run on my Netapp F820 an old DOS based 16 bit application called > "advanced revelation" uses a flat file database. Unfortunately I am not > successful. The application does not recognize the mapped network drive. Is > there any way/trick to make it working on the filer? > Has anybody tried such applications on Netapp Filers or remote drives? > > Thanks in advance > > Zekeriya Eskiocak > System Engineer > > Prolink Services > > Istanbul/TURKEY -- regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.

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RE: Advanced Revelation on Netapp
by jwitham＠takedapharm.com 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

How did you map the drive? Did you use the AutoExNT service as described at http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3054.html ? We've had very good luck with it. Another thing you might want to check is that there are no "Advanced Revelation" NT services running as the 'System' account. System has full control of the local filesystem of the server, but has NO RIGHTS outside of the box (network drives, etc...) -john John Witham Senior Data Networking Engineer Takeda Pharmaceuticals North America, Inc. V://847.383.3304 F://847.383.3205 mailto://jwitham@takedapharm.com Confucius say he who play as root eventually kill tree -----Original Message----- From: Zekeriya Eskiocak [mailto:zeskiocak@pro-link.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:14 AM To: neil lehrer Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Advanced Revelation on Netapp Hi, Thanks to all friends who responded to my question. I think I could not explain my problem exactly. The application which is called "advanced revelation" is working on winnt 4.0 server and uses its resources-that is a service running on the server. what I have tried is that I mapped the filer volume to the server as F drive and copied all files regarding the application, then tried to run it. It gave a message that it could not find the data files even thet was there on the F drive. This is my problem. Thanks Zek -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of neil lehrer Sent: 19 Kasym 2001 Pazartesi 23:34 To: MCope(a)isisph.com Cc: Zekeriya Eskiocak; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Advanced Revelation on Netapp if you are running from a dos machine you should be able to use the dos smb drivers from microsoft - the ones that came from lanmanager. if you are using any windows based machine the drivers should be there. MCope(a)isisph.com wrote: > > Zekeriya, > > I would definately be interested in hearing if you get this to work. My > company has a few DOS based lab workstations that I would like to connect > to our Filers. The problem is that there is no utility/driver to provide > the SMB protocol to DOS. You can get the IPX protocol for DOS but the > Filers do not support IPX. We have not tried to build a NetWare server to > act as a gateway though. In theory the DOS system could connect to the > NetWare server using IPX. The NetWare server would have the NFS.nlm > running to connect it to a Filer. I do something similar for our Macintosh > users. I have a Linux box that uses NFS to connect to the Filers and then > it runs the AppleShare protocol as a gateway for the Macs. I do not know > if IPX restricts sharing a share like SMB and NFS do (e.g., an SMB/NFS > client - server or workstation - can not then make that share available to > clients of its own) > > Michael Cope > Unix Systems Administrator > Isis Pharmaceuticals > > > "Zekeriya > Eskiocak" To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> > <zeskiocak@pro-lin cc: > k.net> Subject: Advanced Revelation on Netapp > Sent by: > owner-toasters@mat > hworks.com > > > 11/19/01 12:49 PM > > > > Hi All, > > I tried to run on my Netapp F820 an old DOS based 16 bit application called > "advanced revelation" uses a flat file database. Unfortunately I am not > successful. The application does not recognize the mapped network drive. Is > there any way/trick to make it working on the filer? > Has anybody tried such applications on Netapp Filers or remote drives? > > Thanks in advance > > Zekeriya Eskiocak > System Engineer > > Prolink Services > > Istanbul/TURKEY -- regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.

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Re: Advanced Revelation on Netapp
by MCope＠isisph.com 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

Zekeriya, I would definately be interested in hearing if you get this to work. My company has a few DOS based lab workstations that I would like to connect to our Filers. The problem is that there is no utility/driver to provide the SMB protocol to DOS. You can get the IPX protocol for DOS but the Filers do not support IPX. We have not tried to build a NetWare server to act as a gateway though. In theory the DOS system could connect to the NetWare server using IPX. The NetWare server would have the NFS.nlm running to connect it to a Filer. I do something similar for our Macintosh users. I have a Linux box that uses NFS to connect to the Filers and then it runs the AppleShare protocol as a gateway for the Macs. I do not know if IPX restricts sharing a share like SMB and NFS do (e.g., an SMB/NFS client - server or workstation - can not then make that share available to clients of its own) Michael Cope Unix Systems Administrator Isis Pharmaceuticals "Zekeriya Eskiocak" To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> <zeskiocak@pro-lin cc: k.net> Subject: Advanced Revelation on Netapp Sent by: owner-toasters@mat hworks.com 11/19/01 12:49 PM Hi All, I tried to run on my Netapp F820 an old DOS based 16 bit application called "advanced revelation" uses a flat file database. Unfortunately I am not successful. The application does not recognize the mapped network drive. Is there any way/trick to make it working on the filer? Has anybody tried such applications on Netapp Filers or remote drives? Thanks in advance Zekeriya Eskiocak System Engineer Prolink Services Istanbul/TURKEY

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Re: snapmirror technologie for oracle-datafiles
by mds＠gbnet.net 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

On Mon 19 Nov, 2001, "Richard L. Rhodes" <rhodesr(a)firstenergycorp.com> wrote: > On 19 Nov 2001, at 13:24, kevin graham wrote: > > I thought this was supported with the a resync - you can break the > mirror, use it, then resync it, all without a full sync. This is certainly possible with VxVM 3.2 for Unix, where you have additional objects to maintain metadata about where an off-split mirror differs from the on-line mirror. This represents yet another license to buy. Without such a fast resync option, the whole mirror does need to be resilvered, and that does get painful. I'd imagine other volume managers may have similar functionality. > > Rick >-- End of excerpt from "Richard L. Rhodes" -- -Mark ... an Englishman in London ...

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Advanced Revelation on Netapp
by Zekeriya Eskiocak 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Hi All, I tried to run on my Netapp F820 an old DOS based 16 bit application called "advanced revelation" uses a flat file database. Unfortunately I am not successful. The application does not recognize the mapped network drive. Is there any way/trick to make it working on the filer? Has anybody tried such applications on Netapp Filers or remote drives? Thanks in advance Zekeriya Eskiocak System Engineer Prolink Services Istanbul/TURKEY

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