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RE: [Bigbackup] Welcome back
by Schepers, Jan 30 Nov '01

30 Nov '01

> On 26 Nov 2001, David N. Blank-Edelman wrote: > > > > So here's my question: since this list has been dormant for a very > > long time, should it be killed? Is this still a relevant topic and > > forum for this topic? > > Backing up big datasets will always be a relevant topic > for some. ;-) > Is there an already established list that addresses the topic in the > manner of this list (vendor neutral, OS neutral, platform neutral)? > If not, I think there is a need for one, and this can be it. > -- > Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)risc.org) > "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From my perspective there is definitely need for a vendor/product, platform/os independent list that tackles big backup problems. I do not know any other list than this (mailto:bigbackup@lists.cc.neu.edu) one, but as said above it's quiet here. rgds, Yann

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Best place to buy NetApp HW?
by Wollermann, Brian 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

My company is looking to buy more NetApp hardware and our local vendor (the only one) does not seem to be giving us very good pricing. My boss wants me to see if there are other vendors that can get us the same thing cheaper. If anyone has a particular vendor that they feel gives good prices can you send me their name and number (US only please)? I would appreciate it. Thank you.

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Test lab configs
by Joe Luchtenberg 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

I apologize in advance for such an open-ended question. Also, I recognize that this subject is probably as much art as it is science. Nonetheless, I would appreciate any insight that can be offered. I am looking for guidance on the subject of test lab requirements. Specifically, if an organization has multiple filer models in production, is it sufficient to maintain a single filer model in the lab for testing? More generally, can anyone point me to resources on the general subject of designing a data center test lab? A cursory search of the web was not helpful (probably because I am having some difficulty adequately refining my searches). Jeff Browning's paper (TR3055 Creating a UNIX-based Database Software Testing Environment Using a NetApp Filer, http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3055.html) is instructive from a software testing perspective. I'm interested not only in that, but also h/w and s/w compatibility/interoperability testing, as well as performance testing. Thanks in advance. Again I apologize for the lack of detail in my request. Joe Joe Luchtenberg Dataline, Inc. 757-858-0600 757-285-1223 (mobile) 757-858-0606 (fax) joe.luchtenberg(a)data-line.com www.data-line.com

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Great post on WAFL
by Tom Yergeau 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

Just noticed a great post on WAFL on The Motley Fool's discussion boards: http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=16158813 For a financial discussion board, this is pretty technical. Great read. Tom

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subst cmd problem - more
by neil lehrer 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

toaster folk, mark muhlestein was gracious enough to read my pktt traces. it seems eventhough i am pointing directly to a dir with subst: subst h: \\filer\users\a\adam the command tries to get attribs from \\filer\users\a. so eventhough i had cifs.bypass_traverse_checking on and even an X perm on \\filer\users\a subst got mad. putting some level of read on \\filer\users\a seems to correct it. subst h: \\filer\users\a\adam then works. right now i have R,X on it. any comments? thanks -- regards

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nt subst cmd
by neil lehrer 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

hi, our homedir structure is /vol/vol0/users/a/adam we want to use the subst cmd instead of 'net use' because we go below the share. and since we have the first letter of the userid in there we can't use the ontap homedir option. however, we can't get subst to work as a user. C:\WINNTSRV>subst q: \\filer\u7\k\kusr1 Path not found - \\filer\u7\k\kusr1 subst works fine as admin. u7 is an ntfs qtree. kusr1 has full control over its dir. cifs.bypass_traverse_checking on is set. i also gave kusr X rights on u7 and u7\k. no diff. filer is 760 with ontap 6.1.1r2. volume is unix style. anybody ever get this to work? any suggestions? thanks. -- regards

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RE: Purging classified files from F840
by McCarthy, Tim 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

Gentlemen, I suggest you look at the following: http://www.dss.mil/isec/nispom.htm This is the DOD standard for disk clearing. This is DOD, and other agencies may have guidlines in addition to these when sanitizing disks.... --tmac Timothy A. McCarthy System Engineer Network Appliance Federal Systems INC. http://www.netapp.com <http://www.netapp.com> 410-290-1581 Office Page Me at: 877-5-NETAPP --> -----Original Message----- --> From: Joe Luchtenberg [mailto:joe.luchtenberg@data-line.com] --> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:15 AM --> To: 'pkeim(contr-ird)'; toasters(a)mathworks.com --> Subject: RE: Purging classified files from F840 --> --> --> Not a direct answer, but a related subject... If your --> environment is --> subject to DoD restrictions related to data classification, --> then you may --> wish to ensure you have the warranty uplift for --> non-returnable disks. --> NetApp cannot accept returned disks under warranty that --> have been degaused --> or otherwise modified to purge data to satisfy --> classification requirements, --> as this will nullify their warranty with the OEM --> manufacturer (it is well --> known that NetApp is a software company and their disks are --> - or at least --> were - all Seagate or IBM). You will be charged for --> replacement disks, if --> you do not purchase this uplift. --> --> Hope this is useful, even if it does not directly address --> your question. --> --> Joe --> --> Joe Luchtenberg --> Dataline, Inc. --> 757-858-0600 --> joe.luchtenberg(a)data-line.com --> --> -----Original Message----- --> From: pkeim(contr-ird) [mailto:pkeim@snap.org] --> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:23 AM --> To: toasters(a)mathworks.com --> Subject: Purging classified files from F840 --> --> --> I need some assistance in tracking down a specific question --> concerning our new F840 with release 6.1.1R2. When it's --> introduced into our --> production environment next month, it will operate in an --> unclassified (but --> sensitive) environment. If a user inadvertently saved a --> document classified --> "secret" to the filer, what is the DoD-approved method to --> completely wipe --> the file from the volume? --> --> Thanks in advance for the help! -->

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Purging classified files from F840
by pkeim(contr-ird) 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

I need some assistance in tracking down a specific question concerning our new F840 with release 6.1.1R2. When it's introduced into our production environment next month, it will operate in an unclassified (but sensitive) environment. If a user inadvertently saved a document classified "secret" to the filer, what is the DoD-approved method to completely wipe the file from the volume? Thanks in advance for the help!

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RE: Purging classified files from F840
by Joe Luchtenberg 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

Not a direct answer, but a related subject... If your environment is subject to DoD restrictions related to data classification, then you may wish to ensure you have the warranty uplift for non-returnable disks. NetApp cannot accept returned disks under warranty that have been degaused or otherwise modified to purge data to satisfy classification requirements, as this will nullify their warranty with the OEM manufacturer (it is well known that NetApp is a software company and their disks are - or at least were - all Seagate or IBM). You will be charged for replacement disks, if you do not purchase this uplift. Hope this is useful, even if it does not directly address your question. Joe Joe Luchtenberg Dataline, Inc. 757-858-0600 joe.luchtenberg(a)data-line.com -----Original Message----- From: pkeim(contr-ird) [mailto:pkeim@snap.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:23 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Purging classified files from F840 I need some assistance in tracking down a specific question concerning our new F840 with release 6.1.1R2. When it's introduced into our production environment next month, it will operate in an unclassified (but sensitive) environment. If a user inadvertently saved a document classified "secret" to the filer, what is the DoD-approved method to completely wipe the file from the volume? Thanks in advance for the help!

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RE: Performance issue
by Craig Slack 27 Nov '01

27 Nov '01

We too have experienced similar performance issues on the same OS version. However, our users are using Trend OfficeScan for virus scanning, not NAV. We have an open case with NetApp, but so far they have provided us with no information. If this is a widespread problem with this OS version, I would like to know when a patch is expected, if anyone knows. Thank you. Craig Slack -----Original Message----- From: Kitch, David [mailto:dkitch@ti.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:32 AM To: 'Drew O'Donnell'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Performance issue We've had the same issue in isolated cases on our filers running 6.1R1P1. Our clients are running NAV CE. What have you found out about Norton Antivirus Corporate edition in this combination? Regards, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Drew O'Donnell [mailto:drew@cooperneff.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 9:43 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Performance issue Yes, We are having a very similar issue, Netapp Engineering thinks there may be a bug with this release, we are currently working with them to resolve this. If you disable oplocks on the qtrees which are experiencing the problem, then this should temporarily resolve your problem. I forwarded your email to engineering and they should be contacting you. Are you by any chance running Norton Antivirus Corporate edition on any of you clients? Thanks Drew -----Original Message----- From: Haber, David J. [mailto:David.Haber@vtmednet.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:11 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Performance issue Has anyone seen intermittent problems when users try to save Excel or Powerpoint files to a share on the filer? Also, what are some of the strategies for dealing with oplock break timeout issues? I've been working with NetApp support on these issues but I'd like other opinions. I'm running an 820 filer, DATAOntap 6.1.1r1, and I have a 4-port, 10/100 full duplex vif.

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