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RE: moving disks between 720s
by Strange, Steve 25 Feb '04

25 Feb '04

Many recent versions of ONTAP also provide a regular command for this: > disk zero spares Steve -----Original Message----- From: Stephane Bentebba [mailto:stephane.bentebba@fps.fr] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 6:40 AM Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: moving disks between 720s also : priv set diag spares_zero and that's all Jeff Burton wrote: > The below will also zero out all disks that are not part of a volume: > filer> priv set diag > filer*> setflag raid_enable_prezeroing 1 > > after done all disks zero'ed > > filer*> setflag raid_enable_prezeroing 0 > filer*> priv set > > If you add a disk to a filer that is not zero'd it seems to create a > new volume and place that disk in the volume. It's never been a > problem for us, but you do need to destroy that volume to add the disk > to your spares. > > Jeff > >> From: "Glenn Dekhayser" <gdekhayser(a)voyantinc.com> >> To: "Michael Schipp" <mschipp(a)asi.com.au>, "Frank Smith" >> <fsmith(a)hoovers.com>, "toasters" <toasters(a)mathworks.com> >> Subject: RE: moving disks between 720s >> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:34:40 -0500 >> >> I believe that there is a command "vol add -n" that will zero out the >> disks without actually adding this to a volume- just saw this in >> training (thanks Jim!). >> >> Glenn Dekhayser >> Voyant Strategies, Inc. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Schipp [mailto:mschipp@asi.com.au] >> Sent: Mon 2/23/2004 4:51 PM >> To: Frank Smith; toasters >> Cc: >> Subject: RE: moving disks between 720s >> >> >> >> Go though the filer boot menu and initialize the disks so that they >> are blank. >> >> Thank you >> Michael A Schipp >> ASI Solutions >> IT LAN/WAN Administrator >> E-Mail : mschipp(a)asi.com.au >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com >> [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Frank Smith >> Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 7:00 AM >> To: toasters >> Subject: moving disks between 720s >> >> We are planning on retiring one of our F720s and keeping it to use >> the parts as spares. Is there anything we need to do before the >> shutdown so that the individual disks can be pulled and used as >> replacements in other 720s? I'm not trying to move any data, >> just grab individual disks that are part of a an existing volume >> on the retired 720 and use them as hot spares on another 720. >> >> Thanks, >> Frank >> >> -- >> Frank Smith fsmith(a)hoovers.com >> Sr. Systems Administrator Voice: 512-374-4673 >> Hoover's Online Fax: 512-374-4501 >> >> >> >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage ? 4 plans to choose > from! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ > >

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MX records
by Jerry 25 Feb '04

25 Feb '04

It appears the netapp configuration for a mail server doesn't lookup MX records (which I guess is used for autosupport). I have two MX records for my mail relay but no A record (by design). Have two A records is not desirable because MTA's will be confused and end up deferring mail for a little bit. I believe with two MX records, they try one then the other. With A records, they only get one back originally, try, defer, then continue to fail that piece of mail until it's re-queued later and happens to hit the other A record. Since dual A records are round robin, there is no real way of assuring it doesn't get the same A record back when it decides to look it up again (and maybe it even caches it for some time, not sure). Has anyone else experienced this problem? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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RE: moving disks between 720s
by Jeff Burton 25 Feb '04

25 Feb '04

The below will also zero out all disks that are not part of a volume: filer> priv set diag filer*> setflag raid_enable_prezeroing 1 after done all disks zero'ed filer*> setflag raid_enable_prezeroing 0 filer*> priv set If you add a disk to a filer that is not zero'd it seems to create a new volume and place that disk in the volume. It's never been a problem for us, but you do need to destroy that volume to add the disk to your spares. Jeff >From: "Glenn Dekhayser" <gdekhayser(a)voyantinc.com> >To: "Michael Schipp" <mschipp(a)asi.com.au>, "Frank Smith" ><fsmith(a)hoovers.com>, "toasters" <toasters(a)mathworks.com> >Subject: RE: moving disks between 720s >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:34:40 -0500 > >I believe that there is a command "vol add -n" that will zero out the disks >without actually adding this to a volume- just saw this in training (thanks >Jim!). > >Glenn Dekhayser >Voyant Strategies, Inc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Schipp [mailto:mschipp@asi.com.au] > Sent: Mon 2/23/2004 4:51 PM > To: Frank Smith; toasters > Cc: > Subject: RE: moving disks between 720s > > > > Go though the filer boot menu and initialize the disks so that they are >blank. > > Thank you > Michael A Schipp > ASI Solutions > IT LAN/WAN Administrator > E-Mail : mschipp(a)asi.com.au > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] >On Behalf Of Frank Smith > Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 7:00 AM > To: toasters > Subject: moving disks between 720s > > We are planning on retiring one of our F720s and keeping it to use > the parts as spares. Is there anything we need to do before the > shutdown so that the individual disks can be pulled and used as > replacements in other 720s? I'm not trying to move any data, > just grab individual disks that are part of a an existing volume > on the retired 720 and use them as hot spares on another 720. > > Thanks, > Frank > > -- > Frank Smith fsmith(a)hoovers.com > Sr. Systems Administrator Voice: 512-374-4673 > Hoover's Online Fax: 512-374-4501 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage 4 plans to choose from! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/

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24 Feb '04

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RE: moving disks between 720s
by Glenn Dekhayser 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

I believe that there is a command "vol add -n" that will zero out the disks without actually adding this to a volume- just saw this in training (thanks Jim!). Glenn Dekhayser Voyant Strategies, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Schipp [mailto:mschipp@asi.com.au] Sent: Mon 2/23/2004 4:51 PM To: Frank Smith; toasters Cc: Subject: RE: moving disks between 720s Go though the filer boot menu and initialize the disks so that they are blank. Thank you Michael A Schipp ASI Solutions IT LAN/WAN Administrator E-Mail : mschipp(a)asi.com.au -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Frank Smith Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 7:00 AM To: toasters Subject: moving disks between 720s We are planning on retiring one of our F720s and keeping it to use the parts as spares. Is there anything we need to do before the shutdown so that the individual disks can be pulled and used as replacements in other 720s? I'm not trying to move any data, just grab individual disks that are part of a an existing volume on the retired 720 and use them as hot spares on another 720. Thanks, Frank -- Frank Smith fsmith(a)hoovers.com Sr. Systems Administrator Voice: 512-374-4673 Hoover's Online Fax: 512-374-4501

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RE: Cluster failover question
by Jeff Burton 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

Below has worked many times on our F740C nodes and the data on both nodes is accessible the entire time (well outside of the takeover and giveback): - Manually takeover the problem filer from the working filer. (cf takeover) - Power off and unplug everything (cluster cables, FCAL cables, everything) from the problem filer head (only the head, not the disk shelves). - Replace whatever needs replacing. - Connect everything except the cluster connection. I can't remember if I left the FCAL cable to the partners disks disconnected as well, but I think I did just to be cautious. I do know I keep the FCAL connection to it's own disks connected. - Boot the problem filer with the diagnostic disk and run all diagnostics. As long as you cleanly shutdown you can do NVRAM tests, and as long as the cluster is not connected you can run all the MB tests. You can run the memory tests with everything connected. - After diagnostics run, take out the diag disk and reboot the filer. It should stop at the "waiting for giveback..." statement. - Do a cf giveback on the working filer. I've done this about 10 times on a F740C and F880C and have never had a problem with data not being available, or becomming corrupted. Just for the record, data center power outages cause most of these failures, not the NetApps. Jeff >From: Geoff Hardin <geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com> >To: toasters <toasters(a)mathworks.com> >Subject: Cluster failover question >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 16:04:49 -0600 > >We've always had cluster failover on our filers for those times when >something goes wrong on one filer and the other filer can serve the data. >Realistically speaking, that rarely happens because the filers are stable. >However, as time passes and the filers grow older, the develop more and >more "personality." > >For example, we have a pair of F760s that are our problem children. As >much as we'd like to pawn them off to another group, put them out to >pasture, or replace them outright, that does not appear to be happening in >the near future. Unfortunately, one of them has now developed a problem >with a memory DIMM on the motherboard. In the past, we've had the luxury >of being able to shut down the clustered pair of filers, but in our price >conscious environment, people are asking what is the point of clustering if >we can't do maintenance and keep the data available. > >So, my question is this: is it possible to work on a filer head while >serving the data up from the cluster partner? My concern is that you are >upsetting the FC-AL integrity because we'll have to unplug the FC-AL cables >from the adapters on the head when we pull the motherboard tray out. Then, >since the recommended course of action is to run diagnostics after >reseating and/or replacing the DIMMs, could we run a small set of the >diagnostics before plugging in the FC-AL cables? Maybe we could / should >use the FC-AL reset function from the diagnostics menu to get the loops >back to normal? > >Maybe we've just been too cautious with our data, but I'd like to hear from >other toasters if this is possible, advisable, and safe before putting our >data at risk. > >Thanks, > >Geoff > >-- >Geoff Hardin >geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com >Put on your seatbelt. I wanna try something. > > _________________________________________________________________ Find and compare great deals on Broadband access at the MSN High-Speed Marketplace. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/

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RE: moving disks between 720s
by Michael Schipp 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

Go though the filer boot menu and initialize the disks so that they are blank. Thank you Michael A Schipp ASI Solutions IT LAN/WAN Administrator E-Mail : mschipp(a)asi.com.au -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Frank Smith Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 7:00 AM To: toasters Subject: moving disks between 720s We are planning on retiring one of our F720s and keeping it to use the parts as spares. Is there anything we need to do before the shutdown so that the individual disks can be pulled and used as replacements in other 720s? I'm not trying to move any data, just grab individual disks that are part of a an existing volume on the retired 720 and use them as hot spares on another 720. Thanks, Frank -- Frank Smith fsmith(a)hoovers.com Sr. Systems Administrator Voice: 512-374-4673 Hoover's Online Fax: 512-374-4501

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moving disks between 720s
by Frank Smith 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

We are planning on retiring one of our F720s and keeping it to use the parts as spares. Is there anything we need to do before the shutdown so that the individual disks can be pulled and used as replacements in other 720s? I'm not trying to move any data, just grab individual disks that are part of a an existing volume on the retired 720 and use them as hot spares on another 720. Thanks, Frank -- Frank Smith fsmith(a)hoovers.com Sr. Systems Administrator Voice: 512-374-4673 Hoover's Online Fax: 512-374-4501

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21 Feb '04

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20 Feb '04

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