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Re: adding new DS14mkII shelves
by Jerry 11 May '05

11 May '05

We've just added DS14mkII shelves on the fly. The only catch for us was using ESH2 modules, you have to have the right version of ontap, or it panics the filer when you open the loop. And yes, once you have the propper requirements it's as simple as flipping the terminator. The drives are seen in 30 seconds or so. (FAS940 cluster) --- John Stoffel <john.stoffel(a)taec.toshiba.com> wrote: > > Robert> I'm adding 8 DS14mkII shelves on Sunday > morning. The new FC > Robert> controllers are already in the Filer (FAS940 > running DOT > Robert> 6.5.4) and blinking away. I also slid the 8 > trays in (very > Robert> carefully) over the past 2 weeks and cabled > the copper > Robert> interconnects up in-to-out between shelves > this afternoon. > > Robert> Sunday morning we'll shut the Oracle DB's > down and do the following: > > Why not just shutdown the filer, hook up the last > fibre connections > between the new shelves and the filer and reboot? 4 > minutes of down > time.... > > Robert> 1. Run the Fiber cable between the FC > controller A/B ports and > Robert> the Fiber based DS14 shelves. (we installed > 2 and are planning > Robert> on putting 4 each shelves per FC controller) > > Robert> 2. Run the "storage enable adapter n" > command. > > Robert> 3. Flip the Terminator switch on the Fiber > IN ports of each of > Robert> the 4 ports across the two Fiber based > shelves. > > Robert> Does it matter in which order I flip the > terminator switch > Robert> and/or run the "storage" command? Should I > flip the > Robert> Terminator switch off and *then* issue the > "storage" command? > Robert> I'm thinking Terminator switch last.... > > I'm not clear what you doing here, are you saying > that you already > have shelves on the new controllers and you want to > add shelves into > the loop in real time? If the controllers are > completely unused, just > cable them up and turn on the termination switches > to the correct > positions, _then_ I'd run the 'storage enable > adapter' command. > > To me, you don't want to enable the storage until > all the hookups are > done and correct. Once you do the enable command, > it will go out and > probe that adapter, so it should be physically all > setup ahead of > time. > > But hey, I'm ignorant and I'd love to be educated > here too. > > John > John Stoffel - Senior Staff Systems > Administrator - System LSI Group > Toshiba America Electronic Components, Inc. - > http://www.toshiba.com/taec > john.stoffel(a)taec.toshiba.com - 508-486-1087 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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RE: raid dp
by Venkat Appineni 11 May '05

11 May '05

I would suggest go with the latest GA release for 6.5 which would have lot of bug fixes..6.5 is one of the most stable release from Netapp... -V -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Constantin Bogomolnyi Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:02 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: raid dp Hello, I have 2 f840 with 72gigsx35x2 , i would like to use the raid dp feature how stable is the ontap 6.5 ? can we use it in prod for only nfs + raid-dp + snapmirror thanks cb

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raid dp
by Constantin Bogomolnyi 11 May '05

11 May '05

Hello, I have 2 f840 with 72gigsx35x2 , i would like to use the raid dp feature how stable is the ontap 6.5 ? can we use it in prod for only nfs + raid-dp + snapmirror thanks cb

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Re: adding new DS14mkII shelves
by rob-7704＠austin.rr.com 11 May '05

11 May '05

John, > > Robert> Sunday morning we'll shut the Oracle DB's down and do the > following: >Why not just shutdown the filer, hook up the last fibre connections >between the new shelves and the filer and reboot? 4 minutes of down >time... Ultimately we can and will do this. There are certain parties here that claim this can be done live... I suppose I'm catering to their wishes. But a reboot after all the drives are seen is probably a good idea if I have the window. > Robert> Does it matter in which order I flip the terminator switch > Robert> and/or run the "storage" command? Should I flip the > Robert> Terminator switch off and *then* issue the "storage" command? > Robert> I'm thinking Terminator switch last.... > > > To me, you don't want to enable the storage until all the hookups are > done and correct. Once you do the enable command, it will go out and > probe that adapter, so it should be physically all setup ahead of > time. > Our SE mentioned in a meeting weeks ago that adding shelves is as simple as cabling them up with Termination "on" and then flipping a switch thus my frame of mind. And in an existing loop that would be true. But these are new loops and the FC controllers have no drives on them and thus the FC controllers came up disabled. I just talked to him and we revised the plan to as you suggest. I'll leave the termination switch "on" and run my fiber cable from FC controllers to the Fiber based ESH's. Then flip the termination switch off on the first shelf and *then* issue the "storage enable adapter x" command last. I'm curious how long it'll take for each FC controller loop to "discover" all the drives. Thanks for your suggestion. -Rob

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adding new DS14mkII shelves
by Robert K. Borowicz 11 May '05

11 May '05

I'm adding 8 DS14mkII shelves on Sunday morning. The new FC controllers are already in the Filer (FAS940 running DOT 6.5.4) and blinking away. I also slid the 8 trays in (very carefully) over the past 2 weeks and cabled the copper interconnects up in-to-out between shelves this afternoon. Sunday morning we'll shut the Oracle DB's down and do the following: 1. Run the Fiber cable between the FC controller A/B ports and the Fiber based DS14 shelves. (we installed 2 and are planning on putting 4 each shelves per FC controller) 2. Run the "storage enable adapter n" command. 3. Flip the Terminator switch on the Fiber IN ports of each of the 4 ports across the two Fiber based shelves. My question is: Does it matter in which order I flip the terminator switch and/or run the "storage" command? Should I flip the Terminator switch off and *then* issue the "storage" command? I'm thinking Terminator switch last.... TIA -Rob

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RE: New certification path (NACP/NACA)
by Hill, Aaron 10 May '05

10 May '05

For the most part, I must agree. My only gripe is that the requirements have been relaxed significantly; I sat the FAS900 hardware and ONTAP Admin exams when they were still needed for the NACA. Then I sat the ONTAP Advanced and the 3 NACP exams for my NACE. Now I find you only need 4 exams to get to NACE ...... hmmmm. The exams were no nonsense, I either knew all my stuff and passed, or didn't know it all and failed. This happened with the Data Protection exam when the snaplock stuff was introduced in 6.5. So I had to update myself to pass the exam the second time. This was acceptable. There were no long-winded questions that tried to baffle me intentionally like many other vendor exams I have taken. NetApp ask you a question straight up and then you answer it, no unnecessary ambiguity that I could detect. Almost all the exam content is found in the course material as mentioned. It is also very wise to do a NOW search on the technology you are studying and basically learn and read as much as possible. The rest is memory training and as we all know, there are many tricks that can be employed to make that easier. Experience will make answering the troubleshooting questions a breeze. When I felt I lacked experience in a particular area, I read through the KB articles and found them very helpful. Aaron -----Original Message----- From: Alan Biren [mailto:ABIREN@amccorp.com] Sent: Monday, 9 May 2005 10:36 PM To: Jacek Nogala; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New certification path (NACP/NACA) I fond the NetApp exams to be probably some of the best in regards to the following: 1) They do not ask questions that are on notes in the training materials. 2) The questions are all on relavent information that is contained in the training materials 3) There are 5 questions related to experience in working with the Filer This is done to help eliminate the 'paper' certifications. 4) On the above experience questions should not cause you to fail if you have studied the training material. 5) After any of the exams I've been able to go to the training material and find the answer rather easily. From other vendors, I am still looking for answers to. Good Luck on the Exams. I also hear that NetApp is changing the Certification Process yet again. Alan, NACE -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jacek Nogala Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New certification path (NACP/NACA) Some time ago I have passed exams required for NetApp Certified Professional certification. Unfortunately NetApp does not permit for any upgrades to new path and I have to pass new exams from scratch. Can anyone share with me some experience from new exams (I am not asking about explicit questions or other secret stuff)? My past experience was not very good: 1. due small number of questions (30 per exam) it is not so difficult to fail exam by simple mistake or obscure question 2. I have found several question that (without aby doubts) could not be answered without additional data AFAIK problem no 1 is still valid... Best regards, Jacek **************************************************************************** ************************* If you have received this email in error please notify the the system manager or the sender immediately and do not disclosed the to anyone or make copies. ** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals or malicious content ** ** To find out eSafe(TM) and other Aladdin Security Products, contact AMC Corporation at (212) 736-0111 **************************************************************************** ************************* ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ************** This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. We can be contacted through our web site: commbank.com.au. If you no longer wish to receive commercial electronic messages from us, please reply to this e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line. ***************************************************************

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File reconfigurations and upgrading to OnTAP 7
by Lance A. Brown 09 May '05

09 May '05

Greetings, Wanted to run this past y'all before actually doing it. We have a project under way to reconfigure how we are using our netapps (2 FAS940s and 2 F820s) and get thema ll upgraded to Data OnTAP 7. Our two 820s are nearly full, so upgrading them to OnTAP 7 and then getting everything into FlexVols was going to be annoying and drawn out for lack of spare disk space to create an aggregate and get the cascade of traditional volumes to FlexVols going. Instead, we are thinking of attaching a new DS14 shelf to one of our FAS940s which already has OnTAP 7 on it, copy all the data from an F820 to an aggregate built from the disks in the DS14. Reconfigure the F820 by removing old low-density disk shelves and upgrade it to Data OnTAP 7, and then move the DS14 on the FAS940 to the F820. Moving disk shelves and what not around isn't a problem. I'm familiar with that. The kink here is that we need to switch from ESH modules in the DS14 to LRCs when we move it from the FAS940 to the F820. Does anyone know if that will cause a problem? --[Lance] -- Lance A. Brown Contractor, SysAdmin Task of the LMIT ITSS Contract for National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences 919.361.5444x420 -==- It's psychosomatic. You need a lobotomy. I'll get a saw. -- Calvin

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RE: New certification path (NACP/NACA)
by Alan Biren 09 May '05

09 May '05

I fond the NetApp exams to be probably some of the best in regards to the following: 1) They do not ask questions that are on notes in the training materials. 2) The questions are all on relavent information that is contained in the training materials 3) There are 5 questions related to experience in working with the Filer This is done to help eliminate the 'paper' certifications. 4) On the above experience questions should not cause you to fail if you have studied the training material. 5) After any of the exams I've been able to go to the training material and find the answer rather easily. From other vendors, I am still looking for answers to. Good Luck on the Exams. I also hear that NetApp is changing the Certification Process yet again. Alan, NACE -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jacek Nogala Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New certification path (NACP/NACA) Some time ago I have passed exams required for NetApp Certified Professional certification. Unfortunately NetApp does not permit for any upgrades to new path and I have to pass new exams from scratch. Can anyone share with me some experience from new exams (I am not asking about explicit questions or other secret stuff)? My past experience was not very good: 1. due small number of questions (30 per exam) it is not so difficult to fail exam by simple mistake or obscure question 2. I have found several question that (without aby doubts) could not be answered without additional data AFAIK problem no 1 is still valid... Best regards, Jacek ***************************************************************************************************** If you have received this email in error please notify the the system manager or the sender immediately and do not disclosed the to anyone or make copies. ** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals or malicious content ** ** To find out eSafe(TM) and other Aladdin Security Products, contact AMC Corporation at (212) 736-0111 *****************************************************************************************************

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New certification path (NACP/NACA)
by Jacek Nogala 09 May '05

09 May '05

Some time ago I have passed exams required for NetApp Certified Professional certification. Unfortunately NetApp does not permit for any upgrades to new path and I have to pass new exams from scratch. Can anyone share with me some experience from new exams (I am not asking about explicit questions or other secret stuff)? My past experience was not very good: 1. due small number of questions (30 per exam) it is not so difficult to fail exam by simple mistake or obscure question 2. I have found several question that (without aby doubts) could not be answered without additional data AFAIK problem no 1 is still valid... Best regards, Jacek

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09 May '05

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