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RE: So long and thanks for all the bytes
by Palmer, Jason 26 Aug '05

26 Aug '05

Your Q. >>>>> So what can W2k3 do that an F720 cannot? <<<<< Run appliacations and crash spectacually is what that is good at. It can also store data... Ok we admit that ! My Q. >>>>> So what can an F720 do that an W2K3 cannot? <<<<< Serve data, and serve data well. It is an appliance, designed for that purpose. ONTAP even offloads other functions such as Virus Scanning etc... So that the Appliance can get on and do its job well. So, I guess W2K3 can do most things, fairly OK but not as well as an appliance specialising in those tasks. Your Comment >>>>> And no I don't like Windows 2003 storage stuff :( But it does all fit in an eighth of the rack space, and 6 disk drives. <<<<< Trade up to a FAS270(c)up to 4Tb in one 3u shelf, with all the filer intelligence and not a START button in sight :o) -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Sphar, Mike Sent: 26 August 2005 16:05 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: So long and thanks for all the bytes My guess would be "Get approved by penny-pinching management". I know I've had many times where I've had to fight for keeping/upgrading a netapp over objections such as "Well, I could just buy a bunch of cheap disks and a server at Fry's to do the same thing!" Things like those stupid SNAP Servers don't help either. We had to move a bunch of stuff to one of those a while back over my objections. Fast forward a couple months and the SNAP Server loses a disk, which somehow causes it to actually crash and corrupt most of the data (which wasn't all being backed up yet because we were still fighting with a weird permission problem trying to get NFS backups to work.) Bear in mind the ancient F230 that we moved data *from* has never experienced any data loss like that, and is in fact still running. Now when people talk about putting something on the SNAP server I just say "Yeah, good luck with that" and I keep putting my stuff on my good friend Mr F940. -- Michael W. Sphar - IS&T - Lead Systems Administrator SMBU Engineering Support Services, BMC Software -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Mohler Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 9:29 AM To: Simon Waters; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: So long and thanks for all the bytes So what can W2k3 do that an F720 cannot? On 8/26/05 4:20 AM, "Simon Waters" <simonw(a)zynet.net> wrote: > Thanks for the help over the years. > > Expect rather tired F720 with lots of 18 and 36 Gb to appear on Ebay shortly > ;) > > And no I don't like Windows 2003 storage stuff :( But it does all fit in an > eighth of the rack space, and 6 disk drives. > > Simon > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained herein is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access by any other party is unauthorised without the express written permission of the sender. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender either via the company switchboard on +44 (0)20 7623 8000, or via e-mail return. If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. 3167 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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So long and thanks for all the bytes
by Simon Waters 26 Aug '05

26 Aug '05

Thanks for the help over the years. Expect rather tired F720 with lots of 18 and 36 Gb to appear on Ebay shortly ;) And no I don't like Windows 2003 storage stuff :( But it does all fit in an eighth of the rack space, and 6 disk drives. Simon

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mbstat
by Mats.Oberg＠tietoenator.com 26 Aug '05

26 Aug '05

Hi, I've been running the perfstat.sh script from the now site, and in the middle of the script, something called "mbstat" gets run. Looking at the output from this it seems that our filer is running out of buffers for the primary network interface (e11b in this case). Is my interpretation correct or is this just normal values? ================================================================= =-=-=-=-=-= PERF fs001 PRESTATS =-=-=-=-=-= mbstat System pool small bufs: free 2379 (out of 2400), borrowed 0 mallocs 0, drains 0 (success 0), waits 0, drops 0 / System pool small bufs: free 2379 (out of 2400), borrowed 0 mallocs 0, drains 0 (success 0), waits 0, drops 0 System pool large bufs: free 7803 (out of 24033), borrowed 16195 mallocs 863400249, drains 0 (success 0), waits 0, drops 0 Private pool e0: free 228 (out of 1764) mallocs 0, drains 0 (success 0), waits 0, drops 0 Private pool e11a: free 228 (out of 1764) mallocs 0, drains 0 (success 0), waits 0, drops 0 Private pool e11b: free 0 (out of 1764) <====== looks like we are out of free buffers.... mallocs 0, drains 0 (success 0), waits 0, drops 15107 28526 total mbufs 21087 MT_DATA 7439 MT_FREE Descriptor mbuf: total 28476, mallocs 1317717, drops 0 Old style mbuf: total 50, mallocs 15074, drops 0 nfs: request 0 ip reassembly: 0 frags, 0 pkts ================================================================== Could this be why we see strange hangs when accessing an nfsmounted directory for the first time in a while? And if that is indeed the case, is there anything I can do to improve the performance? / Mats

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Mail System Error - Returned Mail
by new＠amazon.com 25 Aug '05

25 Aug '05

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Delivery reports about your e-mail
by cf-community＠houseoffusion.com 25 Aug '05

25 Aug '05

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[MailServer Notification]To Recipient virus found and action taken.
by Administrator＠polyserve.com 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has detected virus-infected attachment(s). Sender = owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com Recipient(s) = toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject = Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Scanning time = 8/23/2005 2:38:07 PM Engine/Pattern = 6.510-1002/2.795.00 Action on virus found: The message body contains WORM_MyDoom.DAM virus. ScanMail has deleted the message body. Warning to recipient. ScanMail has detected a virus.

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Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
by Mail Delivery System 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

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Another Solaris and Netapp FC SAN puzzler... We have two Solaris 8 hosts connected to a FAS960c pair via two FC SAN switches. These hosts do not have Veritas VxVM installed. Instead we are doing multipathing with the Solaris scsi_vhci driver. The filers are running 7.0.1R1 with "cfmode partner". They occasionally whine because the Suns are using the secondary paths to some of the LUNs, i.e., through the partner filer's 7b or 9b ports. I ran this command on the Sun boxes, which shows the available paths to a LUN: luxadm display -p port-wwn-of-filer For example, luxadm display -p 500a098186c7ad4d This shows 4 paths to the LUN, which is correct, but they are all "primary": DEVICE PROPERTIES for disk: 500a098186c7ad4d Status(Port A): O.K. Status(Port B): O.K. Vendor: NETAPP Product ID: LUN WWN(Node): 500a098086c7ad4d WWN(Port A): 500a098386c7ad4d WWN(Port B): 500a098c86c7ad4d Revision: 0.2 Serial Num: C4a9a3zV1-yc Unformatted capacity: 102400.000 MBytes Read Cache: Enabled Minimum prefetch: 0x0 Maximum prefetch: 0x0 Device Type: Disk device Path(s): /dev/rdsk/c4t60A980004334613961337A56312D7963d0s2 /devices/scsi_vhci/ssd@g60a980004334613961337a56312d7963:c,raw Controller /devices/pci@1e,600000/SUNW,qlc@2/fp@0,0 Device Address 500a098386c7ad4d,0 Host controller port WWN 210000e08b1ee380 Class primary State ONLINE Controller /devices/pci@1e,600000/SUNW,qlc@2/fp@0,0 Device Address 500a098c86c7ad4d,0 Host controller port WWN 210000e08b1ee380 Class primary State ONLINE Controller /devices/pci@1e,600000/SUNW,qlc@2,1/fp@0,0 Device Address 500a098186c7ad4d,0 Host controller port WWN 210100e08b3ee380 Class primary State ONLINE Controller /devices/pci@1e,600000/SUNW,qlc@2,1/fp@0,0 Device Address 500a098a86c7ad4d,0 Host controller port WWN 210100e08b3ee380 Class primary State ONLINE In the above output, the paths involving 500a098a86c7ad4d 500a098c86c7ad4d ^^ ^^ correspond to the partner filer's 9b and 7b ports and yet they have Class primary, so it is no wonder that the Suns use these paths sometimes. Here are the four paths in a more comprehensible form: host port A --> FC switch 1 --> local filer port 7a host port A --> FC switch 1 --> partner filer port 7b host port B --> FC switch 2 --> local filer port 9a host port B --> FC switch 2 --> partner filer port 9b I have checked the igroups and LUN mappings and cfmode and cabling, etc., and all are correct. The paths are all there and they are all correct. The only problem that I see is that they are all "primary". For what it is worth, we have some Suns on the SAN that are using Veritas multipathing and Veritas can tell the difference between a primary and secondary path. Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this? This problem isn't a show stopper, just more of an annoyance because occasionally the filer sends autosupport to netapp about it. Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support

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