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New install
by Tim Longo 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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RE: New install
by Kennedy, Jeffrey 11 Jan '06

11 Jan '06

No one's mentioned it but one serious benefit to a separate root volume is an inconsistency state in a non-root volume. http://now.netapp.com/AskNOW/highlight_html.jsp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnow.net app.com%2FNOW%2Fknowledge%2Fdocs%2Fontap%2Frel701r1_gf%2Fhtml%2Fgfiler%2 Fplanning%2Fstorpla5.htm&sentenceId=70026552&titleIds=70026550%2C7002650 9%2C70026504#1291843 ~JK ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wargel Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:25 AM To: Callaway, Michael; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install The other thing to consider is mixing drive sizes in same filer. Just want to make sure you have at least one spare of each size... Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: Callaway, Michael [mailto:Mcallaway@ntta.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:21 AM To: Mike Wargel; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install True, but 2 36GB drives out of 112 discs, most 72GB, they aren't really that missed. Like he said though, you may be better off converting and resizing to your needs/recommended root vol size. Thanks, Michael NTTA/IT http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org/> 214.461.2033 ________________________________ From: Mike Wargel [mailto:mwargel@cstor.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:49 AM To: Callaway, Michael; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install On a 270 with only 14 drives, we've setup systems to migrate entirely to flexvols, including vol0. Maximizes effective disk usage and can resize vol0 as needed. Most vol0's are 25G or less and use a tenth of that. Quite a sacrifice of 2 disks IMO. Mike Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Callaway, Michael Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:14 AM To: Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install We left vol0 as it was, but it's a very small vol, 2 discs if I remember correctly. We just have it there for the system files. Everything else is flex vols in aggr. Thanks, Michael Callaway Systems Support Technician North Texas Tollway Authority/IT Department http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org> 214.461.2033 office 214.325.5523 mobile 972.930.2633 fax ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Tue 1/10/2006 9:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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10 Jan '06

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by Michaud Merrill 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

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RE: New install
by Lai, Derek 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

You can convert the root volume to a flexvol. On systems like the FAS250 and FAS270 it yields the most benefits with the limited number of disks/shelves supported. The root volume never goes over a couple of GB. So to be really save, allocate 10 GB to it. No sense wasting 2 entire disks for it. Put it on an aggregate with other flexvols. Derek -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Tim Longo Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 7:29 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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RE: New install
by Mike Wargel 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

The other thing to consider is mixing drive sizes in same filer. Just want to make sure you have at least one spare of each size... Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: Callaway, Michael [mailto:Mcallaway@ntta.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:21 AM To: Mike Wargel; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install True, but 2 36GB drives out of 112 discs, most 72GB, they aren't really that missed. Like he said though, you may be better off converting and resizing to your needs/recommended root vol size. Thanks, Michael NTTA/IT http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org/> 214.461.2033 ________________________________ From: Mike Wargel [mailto:mwargel@cstor.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:49 AM To: Callaway, Michael; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install On a 270 with only 14 drives, we've setup systems to migrate entirely to flexvols, including vol0. Maximizes effective disk usage and can resize vol0 as needed. Most vol0's are 25G or less and use a tenth of that. Quite a sacrifice of 2 disks IMO. Mike Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Callaway, Michael Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:14 AM To: Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install We left vol0 as it was, but it's a very small vol, 2 discs if I remember correctly. We just have it there for the system files. Everything else is flex vols in aggr. Thanks, Michael Callaway Systems Support Technician North Texas Tollway Authority/IT Department http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org> 214.461.2033 office 214.325.5523 mobile 972.930.2633 fax ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Tue 1/10/2006 9:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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RE: New install
by Callaway, Michael 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

True, but 2 36GB drives out of 112 discs, most 72GB, they aren't really that missed. Like he said though, you may be better off converting and resizing to your needs/recommended root vol size. Thanks, Michael NTTA/IT http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org/> 214.461.2033 ________________________________ From: Mike Wargel [mailto:mwargel@cstor.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:49 AM To: Callaway, Michael; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install On a 270 with only 14 drives, we've setup systems to migrate entirely to flexvols, including vol0. Maximizes effective disk usage and can resize vol0 as needed. Most vol0's are 25G or less and use a tenth of that. Quite a sacrifice of 2 disks IMO. Mike Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Callaway, Michael Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:14 AM To: Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install We left vol0 as it was, but it's a very small vol, 2 discs if I remember correctly. We just have it there for the system files. Everything else is flex vols in aggr. Thanks, Michael Callaway Systems Support Technician North Texas Tollway Authority/IT Department http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org> 214.461.2033 office 214.325.5523 mobile 972.930.2633 fax ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Tue 1/10/2006 9:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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RE: New install
by Mike Wargel 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

If the 270 is in fact a clustered 270 (270c), then the 2nd root volume would need at least 2 disks for the 2nd head, but would still do all aggrs and flex vols, at least for the first/primary head and leave one spare for the shelf. Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Skottie Miller Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:58 AM To: Tim Longo Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: New install re-zero the disks and create an aggregate. then, the root vol, vol0 can be any size you want within that aggregate, and you can then create/remove/resize other volumes for your production data. we create a small (20G) vol0 as root in the root aggregate on every filer, and use the rest of the space for one or more FlexVols or FlexCache vols within the other aggregates. -skottie Tim Longo wrote: > I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was > upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I > think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The > root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it > needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to > know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a > traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the > root volume? > > Thanks. > -- Scott Miller skottie(a)anim.DreamWorks.com

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RE: New install
by Mike Wargel 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

On a 270 with only 14 drives, we've setup systems to migrate entirely to flexvols, including vol0. Maximizes effective disk usage and can resize vol0 as needed. Most vol0's are 25G or less and use a tenth of that. Quite a sacrifice of 2 disks IMO. Mike Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Callaway, Michael Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:14 AM To: Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install We left vol0 as it was, but it's a very small vol, 2 discs if I remember correctly. We just have it there for the system files. Everything else is flex vols in aggr. Thanks, Michael Callaway Systems Support Technician North Texas Tollway Authority/IT Department http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org> 214.461.2033 office 214.325.5523 mobile 972.930.2633 fax ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Tue 1/10/2006 9:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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RE: New install
by Callaway, Michael 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

We left vol0 as it was, but it's a very small vol, 2 discs if I remember correctly. We just have it there for the system files. Everything else is flex vols in aggr. Thanks, Michael Callaway Systems Support Technician North Texas Tollway Authority/IT Department http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org> 214.461.2033 office 214.325.5523 mobile 972.930.2633 fax ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Tue 1/10/2006 9:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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