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RE: Net app support
by Glenn Walker 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

So berkcom.net redirects to zerowait - a 3rd party netapp reseller (used stuff?)... and the guy that emailed me\the list in response to the query just _happens_ to know a vendor? Convenient! Sounds like a sales pitch :-) Glenn ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Timothy Naple Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:26 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Net app support This post by "Jack" (admin(a)berkcom.net) has nothing to do with us here at Berkeley Communications. I didn't even know there was a berkcom.net <http://www.berkcom.net> site that redirects to the company Zerowait until I saw that email and checked it out. Just to be clear and for the record, Berkeley Communications and Zerowait have no affiliation whatsoever. Thank you, Tim Timothy Naple tnaple(a)berkcom.com (510) 644-1599 x308 Berkeley Communications Corporation ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of admin(a)berkcom.net Sent: Wed 1/10/2007 12:59 PM To: Glenn Walker Cc: Toaster Admins; Chris Shenton; Coder,James (STP) Subject: RE: Net app support The vendor I am familiar with on hardware support will overnight hardware replacements or have a on-site spares kit to pull from. For sales usually the next business day, as all equipment is tested again before it goes out the door. Email me direct for the name of this vendor if you are interested as I don't want this to turn into a big sales pitch pissing match! Jack -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Net app support From: "Glenn Walker" <ggwalker(a)mindspring.com> Date: Wed, January 10, 2007 1:32 pm To: "Chris Shenton" <chris.shenton(a)nasa.gov>, "Coder, James (STP)" <James.Coder(a)guidant.com> Cc: "Toaster Admins" <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Out of curiosity, what type of turn-around time do all of these 3rd party vendors offer? Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Chris Shenton Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:38 PM To: Coder, James (STP) Cc: Toaster Admins Subject: Re: Net app support On Jan 10, 2007, at 09:56, Coder, James (STP) wrote: > > Looking at other options other than netapp for hardware / software > support - was wondering who others on the list are using - both > stateside and outside the US (OUS). Net app seems a little too > rigid in > their pricing / support structure. I've had good experience with ZeroWait.com back in the dot-com days and for a system here we built out. They know their products and are responsive, both on purchasing and parts/support. For systems, their quotes were significantly lower than NetApp's and their advice was right-on -- no sleazy overselling. Hooked us up with a spare head on-site for less than a kit o' parts, which will make swapping out a lot faster in the event of a serious failure. Nice folks to work with.

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RE: Netapp support
by Glenn Walker 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

Out of curiosity, what type of turn-around time do all of these 3rd party vendors offer? Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Chris Shenton Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:38 PM To: Coder, James (STP) Cc: Toaster Admins Subject: Re: Netapp support On Jan 10, 2007, at 09:56, Coder, James (STP) wrote: > > Looking at other options other than netapp for hardware / software > support - was wondering who others on the list are using - both > stateside and outside the US (OUS). Netapp seems a little too > rigid in > their pricing / support structure. I've had good experience with ZeroWait.com back in the dot-com days and for a system here we built out. They know their products and are responsive, both on purchasing and parts/support. For systems, their quotes were significantly lower than NetApp's and their advice was right-on -- no sleazy overselling. Hooked us up with a spare head onsite for less than a kit o' parts, which will make swapping out a lot faster in the event of a serious failure. Nice folks to work with.

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RE: Net app support
by admin＠berkcom.net 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

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RE: add bigger disk into raidgroup with smaller disks
by Fox, Adam 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

No. You can't replace disks in an aggregate that way. If you do, they will sized down to the size of the disk they replaced. -- Adam Fox adamfox(a)netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: Willeke, Jochen [mailto:Jochen.Willeke@wincor-nixdorf.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:12 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: add bigger disk into raidgroup with smaller disks Hi toasters, currently i am testing with my simulator and searching for a way to do the following: - have a raidgroup with 5 disks - the two parity-disks plus one data-disk are 100 MB (net) - two other data-disks are 35 MB (net) I want to replace the 35MB-disks with bigger ones, but everything i tried left the "new" disk in the raidgroup with a used size of 35MB. Is there a way to replace a small disk with a bigger one and use the complete size of the disk without destroying the whole raidgroup? Regards and thanks in advance Jochen

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add bigger disk into raidgroup with smaller disks
by Willeke, Jochen 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

Hi toasters, currently i am testing with my simulator and searching for a way to do the following: - have a raidgroup with 5 disks - the two parity-disks plus one data-disk are 100 MB (net) - two other data-disks are 35 MB (net) I want to replace the 35MB-disks with bigger ones, but everything i tried left the "new" disk in the raidgroup with a used size of 35MB. Is there a way to replace a small disk with a bigger one and use the complete size of the disk without destroying the whole raidgroup? Regards and thanks in advance Jochen

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Netapp support
by Coder, James (STP) 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

Looking at other options other than netapp for hardware / software support - was wondering who others on the list are using - both stateside and outside the US (OUS). Netapp seems a little too rigid in their pricing / support structure. Thanks in advance for replies. Jc James C. Coder "We're all leaders, and we're leading all the time, well or poorly." - Chris Lowney Sr. UNIX Administrator Boston Scientific Corporation 4100 Hamline Avenue North, M/S F309 St. Paul, MN 55112 email: james.coder(a)guidant.com www.bostonscientific.com Tel: 651-582-4797 Cell: 612-747-5377 Fax 651-582-4285 "Any views expressed in this e-mail are not those of Boston Scientific Corporation."

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testmail
by Willeke, Jochen 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

i just want to test if i am still able to post on this list. Sorry for spamming! Regards Jochen

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RE: Netapp support
by Glenn Walker 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

We use both NetApp and resellers - I cannot see a LOT of difference in their pricing. I'll tell you this, though: if you buy a LOT from them, they'll work with you on the price. Very easy to deal with, in my opinion. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Coder, James (STP) Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:56 AM To: Toaster Admins Subject: Netapp support Looking at other options other than netapp for hardware / software support - was wondering who others on the list are using - both stateside and outside the US (OUS). Netapp seems a little too rigid in their pricing / support structure. Thanks in advance for replies. Jc James C. Coder "We're all leaders, and we're leading all the time, well or poorly." - Chris Lowney Sr. UNIX Administrator Boston Scientific Corporation 4100 Hamline Avenue North, M/S F309 St. Paul, MN 55112 email: james.coder(a)guidant.com www.bostonscientific.com Tel: 651-582-4797 Cell: 612-747-5377 Fax 651-582-4285 "Any views expressed in this e-mail are not those of Boston Scientific Corporation."

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7.2 stability
by Grey Friday 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

So what's the word on 7.2 ready for install or still hold off?

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Snapmirror transferrates??
by Thomas Bleek 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

Hello, I wonder what transferrate I could expect for snapmirror volumes (an/or qtrees) between 2 FAS270 directly connected with Gigabit Ethernet. We use one filer as NFS backing store for our Mailsystem (Communigate Pro) with mdir mailbox format, so we have many small files here. I see abnormal high lags with really moderate sizes of the transferred data. For instance we need about 20 to 40 minutes to transfer 100 to 600 MBytes! The filesystems a 50% filled 250 GByte Volume/qtree with 10.3 million files (with 7 mio free inodes). so the average filesize is about 12KByte. We use Ontap 7.0.4 here and will upgrade to 7.0.5 next week. But I don't really have much hope that this will change the problem. Could anybody give me some data about his/her transfer rates? I really can't believe, that this slow transfers are normal. An repeatedly snapmirror status command on the filer shows this: at first the transfer startet and transferred about 68 MByte in 80 seconds. after that it paused for 15 minutes (output constantly "transferring 68MB done"). from minute 16 to 26 it says "transferring inodes". in these 11 minutes it transferred 225.000 inodes. after that it transfers data again. in minute 28 it has transferred 550 MBytes. after that one minute pause and then the status is idle. Has netapp/snapmirror a big problem with small files? I don't want to switch to mailbox format because I like the advantages of mdir (single copy mailstore, easier backup?) Thanks for any hints, thomas

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