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RE: SMVI "Operation timed out" during queice / vmware-level snapshot
by Ken Williams 22 May '09

22 May '09

We just moved these VMs to this datastore, They are freshly rebooted after having the Vmtools updated... -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hallmark [mailto:matt@cosmictoaster.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:51 PM To: Sto Rage(c) Cc: Ken Williams; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: SMVI "Operation timed out" during queice / vmware-level snapshot Is this a new VM, or with tools newly installed? Try rebooting the VM, that sometimes fixes these symptoms for me. Matt Hallmark On May 20, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Sto Rage(c) wrote: > We have seen something similar recently. Is "snqfpapp01" a Windows VM? > Check the version of VMware tools installed on that VM and > reinstall/upgrade if necessary. That fixed the issue for us. > Hope that helps > > -Sto Rage > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Ken Williams <kwillia(a)smud.org> > wrote: >> Anyone seeing these types of issues? >> >> I have a FAS3070 cluster serving VMFS datastore over fiber channel to >> a 6 server cluster of ESX 3.5 latest SP. I seem to get a couple VMs >> (randomly) >> that are unable to perform the VMWare snapshot and cause the snapshot >> to fail. The problem seems to be hit or miss. >> >> Here's an excerpt from the log: >> 2009-05-19 19:18:47,556 INFO - FLOW-11012: Operation requested retry >> 2009-05-19 19:18:57,681 INFO - FLOW-11006: Starting operation in >> threadpool backup >> 2009-05-19 19:18:57,697 INFO - FLOW-11012: Operation requested retry >> 2009-05-19 19:19:07,822 INFO - FLOW-11006: Starting operation in >> threadpool backup >> 2009-05-19 19:19:07,837 WARN - VMware Task "CreateSnapshot_Task" >> for entity >> "snqfpapp01" failed with the following error: Operation timed out. >> 2009-05-19 19:19:07,837 ERROR - VM "snqfpapp01" will not be backed up >> since vmware snapshot create operation failed. >> >> I have a case open with Netapp but I'd like to see if the community >> has seen this. >> So has anyone else seen this problem? Any suggestions? >> __________________________________________________________ >> Ken Williams >> Storage Administrator, Business Technology Operations Sacramento >> Municipal Utility District >> E-Mail: kwillia(a)smud.org >> Phone: (916) 732-6744 >> Cell: (916) 240-4213 >

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SMVI "Operation timed out" during queice / vmware-level snapshot
by Ken Williams 20 May '09

20 May '09

Anyone seeing these types of issues? I have a FAS3070 cluster serving VMFS datastore over fiber channel to a 6 server cluster of ESX 3.5 latest SP. I seem to get a couple VMs (randomly) that are unable to perform the VMWare snapshot and cause the snapshot to fail. The problem seems to be hit or miss. Here's an excerpt from the log: 2009-05-19 19:18:47,556 INFO - FLOW-11012: Operation requested retry 2009-05-19 19:18:57,681 INFO - FLOW-11006: Starting operation in threadpool backup 2009-05-19 19:18:57,697 INFO - FLOW-11012: Operation requested retry 2009-05-19 19:19:07,822 INFO - FLOW-11006: Starting operation in threadpool backup 2009-05-19 19:19:07,837 WARN - VMware Task "CreateSnapshot_Task" for entity "snqfpapp01" failed with the following error: Operation timed out. 2009-05-19 19:19:07,837 ERROR - VM "snqfpapp01" will not be backed up since vmware snapshot create operation failed. I have a case open with Netapp but I'd like to see if the community has seen this. So has anyone else seen this problem? Any suggestions? __________________________________________________________ Ken Williams Storage Administrator, Business Technology Operations Sacramento Municipal Utility District E-Mail: kwillia(a)smud.org Phone: (916) 732-6744 Cell: (916) 240-4213

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cifs share umask for a unix qtree
by Roy McMorran 20 May '09

20 May '09

I have a qtree that's shared among NFS and CIFS clients. The security style is Unix. If I set the umask to be 002, ie: filer> cifs shares -change myshare -umask 2 Then the files created in the share via CIFS still have the *execute bits set*: $ ls -al test.txt -rwxrwxr-x 1 user group 4 May 19 16:41 test.txt That's not what I want; none of these files should really be executable. I have read at least one thread in the list archives that suggest using a umask of 113, ie: filer> cifs shares -change myshare -umask 113 This seems sketchy, but I gave it a try. Well, it works for files, but also omits the execute bits from newly-created *directories*: $ ls -ald test* -rwxrwxr-x 1 user group 4 May 19 16:41 test.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 user group 4 May 19 16:43 test2.txt drw-rw-r-- 2 user group 4096 May 19 16:48 test And directories don't work so well in that case! Am I missing something? Why should it not behave like the Unix umask command (with respect to directories)? OnTap 7.2.5 if it matters. Thanks, -- Roy McMorran Systems Administrator MDI Biological Laboratory mcmorran(a)mdibl.org

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Re: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?
by Raj Patel 18 May '09

18 May '09

I guess one key factor is that VIBE is free(ish) and unsupported(?) from what I've read but SMVI is a supported product at a commercial price-point. Anyone tried the VMWare Site Recovery Manager tool ? Is there a NetApp integration component in the works (my understanding is the product leverages SAN vendor API's to ensure consistant intersite replication of VM's) ? On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:16 AM, oakley <oakerz(a)lycos.com> wrote: > How difficult is VIBE to implement though? I had a brief conversation with > my SE and with a NetApp Virtualization Architect and both highly suggested > using Professional Services to do it. Also, and I've barely done any reading > on it, does VIBE give you all of the same benefits that SM-VI does? If not, > what are the primary differences? What experiences, good/bad, have you had > with it? > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > > Subject : RE: Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ? > Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 10:51:46 -0700 > From : Ken Williams <kwillia(a)smud.org> > To : "Learmonth, Peter" <Peter.Learmonth(a)netapp.com>, "Raj Patel" < > phigmov(a)gmail.com>, <toasters(a)mathworks.com> > > VIBE is also an option for those who aren't ready to take the plunge to > SMVI. > VIBE is available if you have an active NOW account under downloads>tool > chest. > ________________________________ > > >

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vmware userland file-level restores (vmdks on nfs + smvi)
by Nick Silkey 14 May '09

14 May '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Toasters -- Our bare-metal systems[1] are able to self-service themselves with TSM clients to perform file-level restores. There is a push to standardize on VMWare to replace the kit behind a lot of the low-hanging fruit Windows/Linux x86 systems. But theres a desire to not reduce function regarding file-level restores with the introduction of this new VMWare platform. We dont want to stick TSM clients on these guests due to redundant backup data shuffling over to pricy FC 3Par disk and the inordinate I/O load on the guests impacting ESX. We want to find a crafty means to leverage crash-consistent snaps on the NetApp (ala, SMVI) which is hosting all the vmdks in order to source restores, but no one is able to order the steps and pieces in such a way that allows people to self-service file-level restores. Theres been talk of craziness of exporting/serving snaps of vmdks to staging guests which can then browse the vmdk to pluck out files and other such hoop-jumping ... but this far from an elegant, scalable solution. The NetApp hosting VMWare serves VMDKs via NFS (3160 under 7.2.6.1). A-SIS and SMVI are components in this architecture as well. If anyone has crossed this path before, insight is appreciated. Thanks. [1]: Windows, Linux, AIX, Solaris, and Tru64 ... oh my. - -- Nick Silkey -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkoMKrQACgkQrDQjhjXrMeK++wCfZdTkxRUFpWVM7caUatOcC5wp GlQAn0amnstES04kngn9wyKNyb8RbHGg =QjuQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Any luck with SnapMirror & ESX LUN's ?
by Raj Patel 14 May '09

14 May '09

Hi, Anyone used SnapMirror successfully with ESX LUN's ? I realise it will only be a crash-consistent copy and I have to enable LUN re-signaturing for ESX to pick it up but this seems like a handy way for me to backup a few DMZ VM's on a LUN (on a seperate secured iSCSI vlan) to another LUN on the same SAN. Cheers, Raj.

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SnapMirror to tape ; anyone adopters?
by Nick Silkey 07 May '09

07 May '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If anyone has words to share on FAS -- SnapMirror --> TSM[1], good bad or ugly, send them my way. I was hoping for a TR but didnt hit on one during my brief search. Thanks! - -- Nick Silkey [1]: http://www.netapp.com/us/company/news/press-releases/news-rel-20090205.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkoDSVgACgkQrDQjhjXrMeIKWwCgzSA1TiwoFfYuIcQshOIKWKrb qBkAn1VTkVT/cyr9rc8NlnE2ghmjb8PM =LjHt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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snapmirror retrieve - multiple sites from one tape
by John Stoffel 07 May '09

07 May '09

Hi, We're starting to use snapmirror to help us migrate some data from old to new filers at sites. We're also going to use it to setup from snapmirror relationships across the WAN as well. What we'd like to do is make one tape on the source side, then ship that one tape to each of the destination sites, do the snapmirror store <vol> <drive> - ship to <dest> dest> snapmirror retrieve <vol> <drive> dest> snapmirror update -S <src>:<vol> <dest>:<vol> - ship to <another> another> snapmirror retriev <vol> <drive> another> snapmirror update -S <src>:<vol> <another>:<vol> Is this possible? It's not clear from the docs if you can do this. Hmm, looking at the Data Protection Using Snapmirror documentation, it looks like the base snapshot created by the 'store' command sticks around, and could be used for other snap mirror relationships, since it has to be manually deleted down the line. Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks, John John Stoffel - Senior Staff Systems Administrator - System LSI Group Toshiba America Electronic Components, Inc. - http://www.toshiba.com/taec john.stoffel(a)taec.toshiba.com - 508-486-1087

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NetApp3140 v EMC CX4-240
by Paul McGuinness 06 May '09

06 May '09

I am after opinions / Pros and Cons on running a substantial VMware infrastructure of approximate 200+ VMs using the 2 mentioned storage systems. Obvious benefits of the NetApp seem to be around the De-Dupe out of the box. Any other thoughts / experiences would be appreciated Fibre attached Dell R900s will be running the ESX side of things. Paul McGuinness Infrastructure Services Manager FINEOS Corporation ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS for INSURANCE, BANCASSURANCE AND SOCIAL INSURANCE __________________________________________________________ FINEOS Corporation is the global brand name of FINEOS Corporation Limited and its affiliated group companies worldwide. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential, may be privileged and is intended only for the use of the recipient named above. If you are not the intended recipient or a representative of the intended recipient, you have received this e-mail in error and must not copy, use or disclose the contents of this e-mail to anybody else. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and permanently delete the copy you received. This e-mail has been swept for computer viruses. However, you should carry out your own virus checks. Registered in Ireland, No. 205721. http://www.FINEOS.com __________________________________________________________

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Re-exporting your /etc/exports - how do I get a change in order of shares to take effect?
by Page, Jeremy 05 May '09

05 May '09

I have several NFS mount points that also have child directories also exported and I've been told that you should export the parent directories first, then the children. I've updated my /etc/exports file and ran exportfs -r on the filer but it does not look like it's taking effect if I do an exportfs to see what's currently exported. How do I get the exports in the correct order? Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email.

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