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RE: Toasters in Compaq Racks and Unicode Files
by Hawley, Rob 01 Feb '00

01 Feb '00

The product is intended to be used (and is certainly tested) in an environment where the filer is accessed by many different language systems. Any limitations described here are limitations of the clients and protocols and are not limitations introduced by the filer. The language setting is relevant in a cifs only environment since it controls how we generate 8.3 names, system, and domain names. For Win9x clients it will also be how we encode share names. >If setting the language is needed what impact does this have with multiple >language clients, ie one kanji, one US English and maybe a laptop user from >Korea? In such a mixed, cifs-only environment I would set the language to "C", and use only ASCII strings for system and domain names. System and domain names are transmitted using the OEM character set selected by the language setting on the system volume. If you are using NT, then you are not restricted in the share names, but bear in mind that an English client installed with the normal fonts will not be able to display a Japanese share name correctly. The filer supports non-ASCII system and domain names, but limitations on the clients effectively require that everyone agree on the language being used. For example if you use the name nihongo (in the correct Kanji) for your domain name, Japanese systems will correctly display the domain name. (We have such a domain in our development lab). English systems will see the name as a series of European characters since they cannot interpret the OEM character strings. As long as you are using an NT backup program running on NT you should not have a problem. Win9x does not implement a full version of UNICODE so I would not expect it to work correctly there. -----Original Message----- From: Alan R. White [mailto:arw@tipper.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 11:39 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Cc: Andrew-M.Webster(a)db.com Subject: Re: Toasters in Compaq Racks and Unicode Files Hi, Sorry 'bout the bunch more questions below - I'd like to understand what this means in more detail if there's knowledgable folks out there. Is unicode mode enabled automatically on the wafl fs? Is the language setting relevant in a CIFS only environment or is it only to allow translation between single-byte clients and wide charsets? If setting the language is needed what impact does this have with multiple language clients, ie one kanji, one US English and maybe a laptop user from Korea? Does it have any impact if the user consistently uses the same language/nt build on the client? How about backup/restore via CIFS - are we OK as long as the CIFS backup client understands unicode? Any idea on maximum filename lengths? The Win32 SDK says 32,000 unicode characters if prefixed with "\\?\" - anyone stress tested this? Hope I get it with answers to all these questions - talk about opening pandoras box Andrew ;-) TIA, Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Pearson <jpearson(a)netapp.com> To: <Andrew-M.Webster(a)db.com> Cc: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 5:11 PM Subject: Re: Toasters in Compaq Racks and Unicode Files > Hi, > Some requests from NT do not supply Unicode file names, but > instead use the PC character set. Setting the language indicates > which PC character set is in use, so that it can be properly translated > to Unicode. > > The volume's language should be set as soon as possible after > bringing up a 5.3 release. > > Joan Pearson > Network Appliance > > > At 10:47 PM 1/30/00 , you wrote: > >Hi There, > > > > Has anyone out there installed F 760es in Compaq racks? Any special tips, > >problems etc.... > > > > Also, can anyone relay any experiences (good or bad) with using Non-English > >files and directories for CIFS clients on Toasters. > > > > And finally, the System. Admin Guide talks about setting a language of a > >volume with the "vol lang volume langcode" command. Does this having any > >affect for Unicode clients, ie NT? > > > >Any help appreciated. > > > >-- > >Andrew Webster > >Windows NT Consultant > >Sanno Move Project > >Deutsche Securities Ltd. - Tokyo > >Tel. +81-3-5408-4787 > >Fax. +81-3-5401-6998 > >Andrew-M.Webster(a)db.com > > >

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RE: win2k , WINS and serving CIFS
by Muhlestein, Mark 31 Jan '00

31 Jan '00

You shouln't have any problems with Win2k clients as long as you have the latest version of OnTap (5.3.4R3). Take a look at http://now.netapp.com/NOW/misc/head/win2000.shtml for a writeup on Windows 2000 and the filer. It's slightly out of date but you will get the basic idea. Mark Muhlestein -- mmm(a)netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: Farid Hamjavar [mailto:hamjavar@unm.edu] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 2:40 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: win2k , WINS and serving CIFS Hello, This is not entirely related to netapp but it somewhat is. Being a primarily unix environment, we have these two windows-nt boxes that really don't do much but act as WINS server so our clients can access the netapp filers. And that's how we serve CIFS. Not being a windows person, I like to ask what do we need to do with win2k coming to picture. Will a win2k client be able to access files via CIFS the way we do it now? Is that true that WINS service is history and no longer available? If so, how would we keep on giving CIFS service to our windows clients? Thanks, Farid

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RE: Toasters in Compaq Racks
by Benn, Paul 31 Jan '00

31 Jan '00

NetApp racks and Compaq racks are both made by Rittal. The mounting flanges on the Compaq version, however, are set nearly flush to the door jam of the cabinet whereas the NetApp version of the rack has the mounting flanges set a bit farther back (closer to the vertical support beams). Though I'm pretty familiar with both rack styles I've never tried this. In my, somewhat educated opinion, there are a few possible issues: 1) The filer will need to be supported in the front as well as the rear. While mounting the disk shelves directly to the flange should be okay, mounting the filer using the front support only probably isn't a good idea given the thickness (rather, thinness) of the flange. The horizontal support rails that ship with a filer *might* work in the Compaq version. Similarly, the horizontal support rails that ship with the Compaq also *might* work (you likely have a number of these laying around since Proliants typically ship with their own slide rails or horizontal support rails). 2) Now if the above turns out to be a non-issue, you may have a problem closing the cabinet door since the filer's bezel sticks out farther than your typical Compaq Proliant does. 3) Even if the door does close, the bezel might be set too close to the Plexiglas door panel which might cause ventilation problems (you wouldn't want to suffocate your poor filer, now would you?). I've seen some shops, however, where they opt not to install the front door on their Compaq racks. 4) I don't recall if the cabinets are available in the same height. If so, you might be able to get away with mounting a NetApp version next to a Compaq version using a coupling kit. Since the internal vertical bracing seems to be different, you may not be able to install the angle brackets for extra support. It probably seems like I'm pitching the NetApp solution as a stand-alone rack (okay, so I am) but Rittal (http://www.rittal.com/) may have a better answer for you. Meanwhile, I'll poke around over here to see if I can come up with some better news. Regards, Paul Benn Network Appliance -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Webster [mailto:Andrew-M.Webster@db.com] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 10:47 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Toasters in Compaq Racks and Unicode Files Hi There, Has anyone out there installed F 760es in Compaq racks? Any special tips, problems etc....

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Toasters in Compaq Racks and Unicode Files
by Andrew Webster 31 Jan '00

31 Jan '00

Hi There, Has anyone out there installed F 760es in Compaq racks? Any special tips, problems etc.... Also, can anyone relay any experiences (good or bad) with using Non-English files and directories for CIFS clients on Toasters. And finally, the System. Admin Guide talks about setting a language of a volume with the "vol lang volume langcode" command. Does this having any affect for Unicode clients, ie NT? Any help appreciated. -- Andrew Webster Windows NT Consultant Sanno Move Project Deutsche Securities Ltd. - Tokyo Tel. +81-3-5408-4787 Fax. +81-3-5401-6998 Andrew-M.Webster(a)db.com

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Re: rsync and nfs file systems
by jrg＠acm.org 31 Jan '00

31 Jan '00

On Mon 31 Jan, 2000, "Bruce Sterling Woodcock" <sirbruce(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote: >It's not Solaris per se; it's been a standard UNIX-ism for a long time. Yup. Before 4.2BSD, there wasn't an rmdir and directories were made and removed with link/unlink (so not very atomic). Excerpt from SunOS 4.1.x man pages: unlink (8V): WARNINGS Only the super-user can unlink a directory, in which case the files it contains are lost. The files can, however, be recovered from the file system's lost+found directory after performing an fsck. unlink (2V): NOTES Applications should use rmdir(2V) to remove directories. Although root may use unlink() on directories, all users may use rmdir(). Of course, it's awkward for root - especially if something changes from a file to a directory whilst it's not looking - as there doesn't seem to be a way to call unlink whilst saying 'but not directories'. James.

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logging quota exceeded messages
by R.P. Aditya 30 Jan '00

30 Jan '00

I'm unable to find out (on NOW) what facility and level disk quota exceeded messages are syslogged: Sat Jan 29 23:01:53 PST [de0]: uid 14602: disk quota exceeded on volume vol0 I don't want to see them in general...however I'm wary of missing other stuff. I currently have: *.info /dev/console *.warning /etc/messages *.err;kern.* @adminhost which I presume should catch most interesting events apart from the the quota exceeded messages... Advice is appreciated. Thanks, Adi

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RE: Shelf Temp. Alarms...
by Datta, Diptish 30 Jan '00

30 Jan '00

Eyal, This sounds like bug 16767 - you can look it up on NOW. If you are not running 5.3.4 then this is the likely suspect. -diptish -----Original Message----- From: Eyal Traitel [mailto:eyal.traitel@motorola.com] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 10:02 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Cc: support(a)netapp.com; vine(a)netapp.com; dubi; Menachem Kaiser (r53417); Mati Giladi (r57914); Haim Leib (r52445) Subject: Shelf Temp. Alarms... Importance: High Hi ! Does anybody have this errors ALL THE TIME ?!? It seems that we've had enough of these... CAN SOMEONE SOLVE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL ????? Eyal/Motorola. ****************************************** Eurologic EDM shelf 7 on host adapter 7 reports a critical condition Digital Temperature Sensor Element 1 reports critical status overtemperature failure temperature: 228 (C), 442 (F) Sat Jan 29 18:59:49 IST [statd]: *** NOTICE *** Fault reported on disk storage shelf attached to slot 7. Please check fans, power and temperature.

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Shelf Temp. Alarms...
by Eyal Traitel 29 Jan '00

29 Jan '00

Hi ! Does anybody have this errors ALL THE TIME ?!? It seems that we've had enough of these... CAN SOMEONE SOLVE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL ????? Eyal/Motorola. ****************************************** Eurologic EDM shelf 7 on host adapter 7 reports a critical condition Digital Temperature Sensor Element 1 reports critical status overtemperature failure temperature: 228 (C), 442 (F) Sat Jan 29 18:59:49 IST [statd]: *** NOTICE *** Fault reported on disk storage shelf attached to slot 7. Please check fans, power and temperature.

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RE: win2k , WINS and serving CIFS
by ZANGA, Michael, GCM 29 Jan '00

29 Jan '00

Wins presenting mantains Netbios names. Win2k no longer has this dependency so NEW clients i.e. Win2k will only DNS for resolution. Downloevel clients will still need WINS but you can upgrde it to the Win2k version and make it more stable and integrated with DNS. -----Original Message----- From: Farid Hamjavar [mailto:hamjavar@unm.edu] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 5:40 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: win2k , WINS and serving CIFS Hello, This is not entirely related to netapp but it somewhat is. Being a primarily unix environment, we have these two windows-nt boxes that really don't do much but act as WINS server so our clients can access the netapp filers. And that's how we serve CIFS. Not being a windows person, I like to ask what do we need to do with win2k coming to picture. Will a win2k client be able to access files via CIFS the way we do it now? Is that true that WINS service is history and no longer available? If so, how would we keep on giving CIFS service to our windows clients? Thanks, Farid

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RE: [NETAPP LOG #95883.00000]Shelf Temp. Alarms...
by Cremers, Ronald 29 Jan '00

29 Jan '00

Hello Eyal, thanks for sharing this, the annoying reported messages should well be fixed, once and for all, in Data OnTap 5.3.4 and up. If you are running that, and still see this error the shelf in question should be replaced. See bugs online for bug 16767: The SCSI-3 Environmental Services (SES) driver on occasion emits an erroneous overtemperature failure containing an impossible temperature. An overtemperature failure would normally be preceded by an overtemperature warning; the warning is not issued. The error is typically quickly reported as having been corrected. A typical report: Eurologic EDM shelf 5 on host adapter 8 reports a critical condition Digital Temperature Sensor Element 1 reports critical status overtemperature failure temperature: 217 (C), 422 (F) Sometime the temperature reported is very low rather than very high. It is very apparent that this fault should be ignored. A temperature reported so far above fault conditions cannot be reached in a ten second interval. WORKAROUND: There is no workaround. Examine the messages file to see if there are any persistent temperature reports. Constant faults would indicate the temperature sensor has reached a hard error state. In that case the shelf must be replaced. FIX: The problem is corrected in 5.3.4 Ronald Cremers, NetApp TSE, Europe. )-----Original Message----- )From: owner-dl-support(a)netapp.com )[mailto:owner-dl-support@netapp.com]On )Behalf Of Eyal Traitel )Sent: 29 January 2000 19:02 )To: toasters(a)mathworks.com )Cc: support(a)netapp.com; vine(a)netapp.com; dubi; Menachem Kaiser )(r53417); )Mati Giladi (r57914); Haim Leib (r52445) )Subject: [NETAPP LOG #95883.00000]Shelf Temp. Alarms... ) ) )Hi ! ) )Does anybody have this errors ALL THE TIME ?!? )It seems that we've had enough of these... ) )CAN SOMEONE SOLVE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL ????? ) )Eyal/Motorola. ) ) )****************************************** )Eurologic EDM shelf 7 on host adapter 7 reports a )critical condition ) Digital Temperature Sensor ) Element 1 reports critical status ) overtemperature failure ) temperature: 228 (C), 442 (F) ) )Sat Jan 29 18:59:49 IST [statd]: *** NOTICE *** ) Fault reported on disk storage shelf )attached to slot 7. ) Please check fans, power and temperature. ) ) ) )

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