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HPUX 10.20 problems
by Graham Knight 26 Jan '00

26 Jan '00

We have a problem with HP-UX 10.20 clients. Occasionally they stop getting NFS updates from our NAC servers. For instance, you might create a file, but when you attempt do an "ls" on the file it does not appear. But if you log into another system and do an "ls" it is there. The only solution we have found is to reboot the HP. HP is no help. Their tech support continues it's downward spiral. At one point a few years ago we had the exact same problem with HP's and solved it by installing 4 or 5 patches. It was just dumb blind luck that I happened upon an HP tech who knew what he was doing. Now those patches are out of date, and the problem has popped up again. My hope is that someone on the list knows about this problem and can give me a list of patches they installed to fix it. Any input would be most appreciated. Thanks, Graham

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RE: Win2000 and 5.3.2R1P1D4...
by Muhlestein, Mark 26 Jan '00

26 Jan '00

The fix for 16022 is not yet available but it's coming very soon. You will also need a Release Candidate 3 or greater version of Windows 2000. If your need is severe you should contact NetApp support. It might be possible to cut a patch. Mark Muhlestein -- mmm(a)netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: Stephen C. Losen [mailto:scl@sasha.acc.virginia.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 8:43 AM To: Eyal Traitel (r55789) Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Win2000 and 5.3.2R1P1D4... > > Hi ! > > It seems we can login to Samba v2.0.5a using Win2000 and cleartext > password, but when using DOT 5.3.2R1P1D4 with > unix authentication (no domain...), we see some login "traces" using > "options cifs.trace_login", but > the outcome is not good - we can't seem to login.... > > Do we need 5.3.4 ? > We've seen the same thing. It's a known bug (16022) and the last I heard, it will be fixed in 5.4. Does anyone know if any earlier release will have a patch for this? Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 804-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support

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Win2000 and 5.3.2R1P1D4...
by Eyal Traitel 26 Jan '00

26 Jan '00

Hi ! It seems we can login to Samba v2.0.5a using Win2000 and cleartext password, but when using DOT 5.3.2R1P1D4 with unix authentication (no domain...), we see some login "traces" using "options cifs.trace_login", but the outcome is not good - we can't seem to login.... Do we need 5.3.4 ? Eyal/Motorola.

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Re: by the way......
by Davis, Barry 26 Jan '00

26 Jan '00

I wanted to let this list know that one of my groups priorities is removing javascript, frames and cookies from the NOW site. We heard from most of you that have terminals in colo cages and secure sites and started working on this issue. Your comments regarding pro-active notification are also being looked at as a new feature of the NOW site. In the interim, our Installed Base Group should be contacting your organization regarding contract renewal well before contract expiration. Make sure your Personal Profile is up to date in NOW so we can contact you. http://now.netapp.com/Self-Service/Custom/editProfile.asp We will have Javascript removed from the login page and will remove the javascript toolbar and frame by 2/24. So on 2/24 if you don't have javascript enabled you will be able to login and navigate the site. Moving away from cookies is a longer term goal because it is an infrastructure change- but we have it on the road map for the next 3-6 months. Additionally, we implemented an interim step that allowed for downloads... Customers who were previously unable to download software because of a text-only browser or browser that does not have Javascript or cookies enabled will now be able to download software through an alternative URL (http://download.netapp.com/). Here they will find the latest software releases and tools and will be able to download software quickly and easily. Here's how: 1) Go to http://download.netapp.com/ 2) Click on the 'Login' link 3) The next page will take you directly to the software download page. Just click on the Software or Firmware link to begin. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Davis - Director of E-Service Network Appliance, Inc. Phone: 408-822-6233 FAX: 408-822-4411 Email: barry.davis(a)netapp.com Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com

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RE: Legato backup revisited
by Benn, Paul 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

Just to add to Ernie's suggestion.... The backup service account could be placed in the domain's "Backup Operators" global group and then the "Backup Operators" global group could be placed in the filer's "Backup Operators" local group. paul@netapp -----Original Message----- From: Ernst.Bokkelkamp(a)mchh.siemens.de [mailto:Ernst.Bokkelkamp@mchh.siemens.de] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 12:06 PM To: paul.benn(a)netapp.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Legato backup revisited To do scheduled backups you have to change the service account for nsrexecd on the networker server or storage node to an account with administrative rights on the filer domain.The reason for this is that scheduled backups are started by the nsrexecd service with the permissions of the local system account which are not sufficient for access to the filer. Therefor you must ensure that the service runs with another account.

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RE: Legato backup revisited
by Ernst.Bokkelkamp＠mchh.siemens.de 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

I can confirm the UNC part. However there are a few hurdles to take. To do scheduled backups you have to change the service account for nsrexecd on the networker server or storage node to an account with administrative rights on the filer domain.The reason for this is that scheduled backups are started by the nsrexecd service with the permissions of the local system account which are not sufficient for access to the filer. Therefor you must ensure that the service runs with another account. Alternatively a custom backup command can be used to mount the netapps volume on the backup the machine, but you will have add the "NET USE" command and enter the password in clear text in the command file. This is the (abridged) custom command I am currently using, which will disappear when we finish setting up the new domain controllers. @ECHO OFF REM Copy parameters to environment for save command SHIFT IF %0.==. GOTO EOJ SET args=%0 :LOOPARG REM SET argp=%0 SHIFT IF %0.==. GOTO LOOPEND SET args=%args% %0 GOTO LOOPARG :LOOPEND REM IF /I (%argp%) EQU (C:\) GOTO SKIPUSE IF /I (%argp%) EQU (D:\) GOTO SKIPUSE IF /I (%argp%) EQU (REGISTRY:\) GOTO SKIPUSE C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\NET USE %argp% /user:domain\account <password> NUL: :SKIPUSE REM D:\NSR\BIN\SAVE %args% C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\NET USE %argp% /D > NUL: :EOJ REM ENDLOCAL Bye Ernie PS. Paul please send me your phone number. Soon I will send you details on our backup trials and there are a few things I like to discuss with you then. (Gerard Bauer is informed about this). > -----Original Message----- > From: Benn, Paul [SMTP:paul.benn@netapp.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 6:24 PM > To: 'christopher.algar(a)s1.com'; toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: RE: Legato backup revisited > > Hello Chris, > > > So, what is the latest? Would appreciate opinions on the following:- > > > > If I want to preserve NTFS permissions then should the Legato > > server be > > on NT? > > Yes. NT ACLs as well as the UNIX permissions are retained when using an NT > backup application (via CIFS), an NDMP solution or the local dump command. > When backing up over NFS, NT ACLs are lost. > > For more info on NT based backup, have a look at: > http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3052.html > > Since I wrote that paper, though, I believe that NetWorker now supports > the > direct use of UNC paths (as opposed to using a mapped drive letter). > > > If so, Is Legato reliable/stable on NT? > > If it works and is a lot cheaper then OK, with have the people to run > > either. > > The NetWorker server does not need to be the NT version. The NetWorker > client that you would use to front end the filer is the only piece that > needs to be NT. > > Regards, > > Paul Benn > Network Appliance

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by the way......
by Linda Walton 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

I am writing this mail message in hopes that someone else will benefit from it. I just found out this afternoon that the HW/SW support contract for our filers had expired on 12/31/1999. Hmmm, I assumed that someone would have contacted us before it expired instead of finding out while trying to download OS on the now.netapp website. To the Network Appliance Corp. readers; is there some way to find out when the support expires without contacting my sales rep? By the way, I would not trade my filers for all the money in world but this kind of nonsense makes me crazier. Linda Walton; UNIX System Administrator; Reasoning Inc.

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RE: Legato backup revisited
by Benn, Paul 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

Hello Chris, > So, what is the latest? Would appreciate opinions on the following:- > > If I want to preserve NTFS permissions then should the Legato > server be > on NT? Yes. NT ACLs as well as the UNIX permissions are retained when using an NT backup application (via CIFS), an NDMP solution or the local dump command. When backing up over NFS, NT ACLs are lost. For more info on NT based backup, have a look at: http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3052.html Since I wrote that paper, though, I believe that NetWorker now supports the direct use of UNC paths (as opposed to using a mapped drive letter). > If so, Is Legato reliable/stable on NT? > If it works and is a lot cheaper then OK, with have the people to run > either. The NetWorker server does not need to be the NT version. The NetWorker client that you would use to front end the filer is the only piece that needs to be NT. Regards, Paul Benn Network Appliance

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NDMP / Direct Attach performance on Filers
by Tim McDonough 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

Hi Folks: Just curious what sort of performance numbers people seeing backing up their filers with NDMP and direct attached tape drives. Our setup has a pair of F740 with "FC" disks ( CFO too ) and direct attached DLT7000's. We're seeing ~6.2MB/sec using Budtool/NDMP. Alas, the reason I ask is a pair of our other filers, F520's with SCSI disks, are backing up over the network using Budtool ( and no NDMP ) and we're seeing ~5.7MB/sec All 4 filers have volumes that are ~100GB and we're running DOT 5.2.3D1 Thanks in advance. Tim

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RE: Connecting to Netapps via additional domains
by Bond, Andrew 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

Hi Simon, You should open a call with NetApp support. However, before you do that, you might find it helpful to enable the "cifs.trace_login" option and watch the console when the new users try to access the filer - you should get some useful error messages. I suspect your problem is the Windows account names do not map to existing Unix UID/GID's. If you do need to speak to support, you would need to clarify exactly what you mean by "I cannot create CIFS shares for this domain". Regards, Andrew > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-dl-toasters(a)netapp.com > [mailto:owner-dl-toasters@netapp.com]On Behalf Of Clawson, Simon > Sent: 25 January 2000 09:06 > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Connecting to Netapps via additional domains > > > Hi Guys! > > I am trying to set out F520 up to see users on an additional > NT domain. We > have a domani with a PDC that "TAP" sees OK. USers from this > domain can > login and access data on the filer. Then we have a second > domain, with its > own PDC, which has a trusting and trusted relationship with > the first PDC. I > am now trying to add a third domain to this complicated loop. > This domain > has trustings and trusted relationships with both the exiting > PDC's but > still users on this domain cannot see TAP. > > I cannot create CIFS shares for this domain either, which > suggests that TAP > cannot see the third PDC. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Bye for now > > Simon > > > Simon Clawson > System Administrator (Renoir Group) > > Mentor Graphics > Rivergate > Newbury Business Park > Newbury > Berkshire > 44 (0)1635 811409 (tel) > 44 (0)1635 810102 (fax) > > 0410 508221 (mobile) > 01523 166385 (pager) > > > >

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