toasters September 2003

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reinit quota ?
by Frank Bonnet 23 Sep '03

23 Sep '03

Hi Is there a way to purge the quota database on a F87 running 6.4.1 , or bring the quotas off/on is sufficient ? I suspect some troubles in the quota table but I'm not 100% sure Thanx -- Frank Bonnet

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ASSISTANCE!!!
by MARTINS JOHN 20 Sep '03

20 Sep '03

Dear Brethen, As you read this, I don't want you to feel sorry for me, because, I believe everyone will die someday. My name isJohn Martins, a merchant in Dubai, in the U.A.E.I have been diagnosed with Esophageal cancer which was discovered very late, due to my laxity in carrying for my health. It has defiled all forms of medicine, and right now I have only about a few months to live, according to medical experts. I have not particularly lived my life so well, as I never really cared for anyone not even myself but my business. Though I am very rich, I was never generous, I was always hostile to people and only focus on my business as that was the only thing I cared for. But now I regret all this as I now know that there is more to life than just wanting to have or make all the money in the world. I believe when God gives me a second chance to come to this world I would live my life a different way from how I have lived it. Now that God ! has called me, I have willed and given most of my properties and assets to my immediate and extended family members and as well as a few close friends. I want God to be merciful to me and accept my soul and so, I have decided to give alms to charity organizations, as I want this to be one of the last good deeds I do on earth. So far, I have distributed money to some charity organizations in the U.A.E, Algeria and Malaysia. Now that my health has deteriorated so badly, I cannot do this my self any more. I once asked members of my family to close one of my accounts and distribute the money which I have there to charity organization in Bulgaria and Pakistan, they refused and kept the money to themselves. Hence, I do not trust them anymore, as they seem not to be contended with what I have left for them. The last of my money which no one knows of is the huge cash deposit of twenty four million dollars that I have with a Bank in Amsterdam. I will want you to help me collect this deposit and dispatched it to charity organizations.email me I have set aside 10% for you for your time and patience. God be with you. John Martins

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Get in Touch
by Peter Obaze 19 Sep '03

19 Sep '03

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RE: Running Postgresql with db on Netapp
by Blake, Delroy 19 Sep '03

19 Sep '03

What are the specs on your PC? Say you have an ATA 100 controller and a drive with 8MB ram you can probably get hit a 30MB/s transfer rate while if you are doing nfs over 100 BASET the best you can hope to do is 12MB/s. If you have a PCI 64/66 or PCI-X bus in You may hit transfer rates of over 50-60MB/S with GE in both filer and PC. When your PC needs to read and write data he just does it he does not have to create IP traffic every time. That means he has to do a little more work to transfer using jumbo frames will free up some of this overhead. Its an option to consider. You might also want to dd a 1 GB file over the network using different block size to see what performance you get. -----Original Message----- From: 'Aditya ' [mailto:aditya@grot.org] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:04 PM To: Maxwell Reid Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com ' Subject: Re: Running Postgresql with db on Netapp On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 03:41:28PM -0700, Maxwell Reid wrote: > Is it possible to install a Gigabit adapter in the *BSD box and > filer? That alone will probably give you a good performance boost... > Switching to udp probably won't improve things, but using Gbe and > jumbo frames will do wonders. I'd consider that, however I'm having a hard time believing that a PC a *stinkeen* plain-ol-IDE drive is doing better than my filer. I can blame (in order of cost of upgrade): - a configuration mistake - mount options - filer options - network hardware - nfs - pc hardware - postgresql and I'm slowly working my way down that list...(grin) I suspect that folks running Oracle/Informix with a filer aren't seeing more than a 10% performance reduction, otherwise very few would opt to do it, so I suspect that it works, it works well and I must be missing something... Thanks, Adi

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RE: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz)
by Hill, Aaron 16 Sep '03

16 Sep '03

At another organisation I used mrtg to monitor my snapshot levels and gauge how snapmirror was running. Combined with the network stats it was pretty damn good. I use DFM here, much easier to use and definitely makes managing large numbers of volumes/qtrees/filesystems easier. But then you gotta buy another license..... -----Original Message----- From: barrie_spence(a)agilent.com [mailto:barrie_spence@agilent.com] Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2003 12:45 AM To: JasonT(a)plumtree.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) We graph CIFS and NFS server operation rates (using the least significant 32-bits of the SNMP counter) and connected CIFS shares. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Truong [mailto:JasonT@plumtree.com] Sent: 15 September 2003 23:32 To: Sto Rage !; Ziller, Frank; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) What are people monitoring on their NetApps with mrtg? Just curios cause I only use MRTG to graph the network traffic. I did think about using it for CPU/disk space but I currently use Nagios for that. I am sure others on this list will have good uses for MRTG on their NetApps....anyone care to share? Thanks, Jason T. -----Original Message----- From: Sto Rage ! [mailto:Net_Backer@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:09 PM To: Ziller, Frank; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) Is there a benefit installing this version of MRTG package instead of using the newer standard mrtg and add your own configs to it? We have the standard build of MRTG (being used to monitor other network related stuff too) to which we added NetApp configs to pull data. What extra info (that's not available with snmp) does this application provide? I think this package is now outdated. Comments? -G ----- Original Message ----- From: Ziller, Frank <mailto:FZiller@IKON.com> To: toasters(a)mathworks.com <mailto:toasters@mathworks.com> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:28 PM Subject: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) Has anyone successfully installed the filer-mrtg application (downloaded off now.netapp.com) on Red Hat 7.3 or Red Hat 9. It looks like I am having some problems with either\both perl and mrtg parsing data collected in the mrtg-filer-stats.sh shell script. See below. [root@atl01-lnx-75 bin]# /opt/nasmrtg/bin/mrtg-filer-stats.sh 10.10.18.21 password + SERVER=10.10.18.21 + PORT=password + USER= + PASSWD= + MRTG_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin + MRTG_BIN=/opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin + FILER_STATS_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg + BASE_WORKDIR=/opt/nasmrtg/monitor + CONF=/opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg + INDEX_FILE=/opt/nasmrtg/monitor/10.10.18.21/index.html + TITLE=Filer statistics for '10.10.18.21' + REGEX=10.10.18.21 + /opt/nasmrtg/bin/retrieve-filer.sh 10.10.18.21 + SERVER=10.10.18.21 + FILER_ASCII_PORT= + USERNAME= + PASSWD= + FILER_STATS_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg + PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/gnu/bin:/opt/nasmrtg/bin: + export PATH + DATA_FILE=/opt/nasmrtg/data/retrieve-filer-10.10.18.21.dat + GNU_EGREP= + RCMD=rsh + echo 'Name: 10.10.18.21' + retrieve-cpu.pl 10.10.18.21 + /opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin/mrtg /opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg Array found where operator expected at (eval 177) line 1, at end of line * Problem with '1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.2.0&1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0:public@10.10.18.21': syntax error at (eval 177) line 1, near "1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0:" + /opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin/indexmaker /opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg 'Filer statistics for '\''10.10.18.21'\''' 10.10.18.21 + exit 0 [root@atl01-lnx-75 bin]# Thanks, Frank _________ Frank Ziller IKON Network Center IKON The Way Business Gets Communicated 5755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Norcross, GA 30092 678.728.0601 fax: 678.547.2190 email: fziller(a)ikon.com <mailto:fziller@ikon.com> ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ************** This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. **************************************************

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RE: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz)
by barrie_spence＠agilent.com 16 Sep '03

16 Sep '03

We graph CIFS and NFS server operation rates (using the least significant 32-bits of the SNMP counter) and connected CIFS shares. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Truong [mailto:JasonT@plumtree.com] Sent: 15 September 2003 23:32 To: Sto Rage !; Ziller, Frank; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) What are people monitoring on their NetApps with mrtg? Just curios cause I only use MRTG to graph the network traffic. I did think about using it for CPU/disk space but I currently use Nagios for that. I am sure others on this list will have good uses for MRTG on their NetApps....anyone care to share? Thanks, Jason T. -----Original Message----- From: Sto Rage ! [mailto:Net_Backer@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:09 PM To: Ziller, Frank; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) Is there a benefit installing this version of MRTG package instead of using the newer standard mrtg and add your own configs to it? We have the standard build of MRTG (being used to monitor other network related stuff too) to which we added NetApp configs to pull data. What extra info (that's not available with snmp) does this application provide? I think this package is now outdated. Comments? -G ----- Original Message ----- From: Ziller, Frank <mailto:FZiller@IKON.com> To: toasters(a)mathworks.com <mailto:toasters@mathworks.com> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:28 PM Subject: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) Has anyone successfully installed the filer-mrtg application (downloaded off now.netapp.com) on Red Hat 7.3 or Red Hat 9. It looks like I am having some problems with either\both perl and mrtg parsing data collected in the mrtg-filer-stats.sh shell script. See below. [root@atl01-lnx-75 bin]# /opt/nasmrtg/bin/mrtg-filer-stats.sh 10.10.18.21 password + SERVER=10.10.18.21 + PORT=password + USER= + PASSWD= + MRTG_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin + MRTG_BIN=/opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin + FILER_STATS_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg + BASE_WORKDIR=/opt/nasmrtg/monitor + CONF=/opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg + INDEX_FILE=/opt/nasmrtg/monitor/10.10.18.21/index.html + TITLE=Filer statistics for '10.10.18.21' + REGEX=10.10.18.21 + /opt/nasmrtg/bin/retrieve-filer.sh 10.10.18.21 + SERVER=10.10.18.21 + FILER_ASCII_PORT= + USERNAME= + PASSWD= + FILER_STATS_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg + PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/gnu/bin:/opt/nasmrtg/bin: + export PATH + DATA_FILE=/opt/nasmrtg/data/retrieve-filer-10.10.18.21.dat + GNU_EGREP= + RCMD=rsh + echo 'Name: 10.10.18.21' + retrieve-cpu.pl 10.10.18.21 + /opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin/mrtg /opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg Array found where operator expected at (eval 177) line 1, at end of line * Problem with '1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.2.0&1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0:public@10.10.18.21': syntax error at (eval 177) line 1, near "1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0:" + /opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin/indexmaker /opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg 'Filer statistics for '\''10.10.18.21'\''' 10.10.18.21 + exit 0 [root@atl01-lnx-75 bin]# Thanks, Frank _________ Frank Ziller IKON Network Center IKON The Way Business Gets Communicated 5755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Norcross, GA 30092 678.728.0601 fax: 678.547.2190 email: fziller(a)ikon.com <mailto:fziller@ikon.com>

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RE: Running Postgresql with db on Netapp
by Maxwell Reid 16 Sep '03

16 Sep '03

Hi Aditya, Is it possible to install a Gigabit adapter in the *BSD box and filer? That alone will probably give you a good performance boost... Switching to udp probably won't improve things, but using Gbe and jumbo frames will do wonders. Regards, max -----Original Message----- From: Aditya To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Sent: 9/15/2003 2:57 PM Subject: Running Postgresql with db on Netapp Hi, We've been running Postgresql (7.2.x) on FreeBSD with the database files on a Netapp F85. The mounts are NFSv3/TCP with no special tuning on the filer or client. This is a single db server accessing the database on a rw mount so there are no traditional filesystem locking problems (AFAIK). We seem to have hit a performance wall (vs. a linux box with local IDE drive) and I've been reading the various whitepapers on the NetApp website about Oracle/Informix and filers and started to follow the recommendations: - checked that all interfaces on nfs client/switch/filer are 100baseTX-FD - turned minra on, which made the filer slightly more responsive but nothing spectacular - changed the mount options to include -w=32768,-r=32768 with no perceptible difference (also increased it to 65536 for both r and w with no change) - turned fsync off in Postgres (yes, I know it's risky, but I'm trying to figure out why this is so borked) - unlike solaris there is no "direct access" mode in FreeBSD to prevent the NFS client from caching which is 2x as wasteful since the db is also caching You can see the general performance stats (which are matched by "human perception" testing) for this filer ever since we turned on a heavy-duty application last Thursday: http://dev.zapatec.com/website/internal/stats/netapp/zilch.pr.zapatec.co m/ and the various tweaking described above hasn't made much of a difference as you can see from the graphs (5 minute averages). current sysstat snapshot is pretty consistent and looks like this: zilch> sysstat 1 CPU NFS CIFS HTTP Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache in out read write read write age 9% 1450 0 0 1324 3726 3392 0 0 0 0 8% 1744 0 0 1323 3863 3916 0 0 0 0 10% 1588 0 0 1539 3617 3048 0 0 0 0 9% 1940 0 0 2251 3149 3140 4 0 0 0 8% 1718 0 0 401 3750 3288 2816 0 0 0 10% 1440 0 0 2327 3253 3504 0 0 0 0 9% 1648 0 0 2052 3504 3308 0 0 0 0 10% 1425 0 0 1625 3459 3172 0 0 0 0 8% 1709 0 0 1925 3167 3184 0 0 0 0 Any suggestions or hints of what to try other than don't run a db over NFS if you want performance: http://www.sunmanagers.org/pipermail/summaries/2000-December/000072.html After all, I presume that Oracle and Informix using a filer are doing well enough that people stick with the filer? Thanks, Adi This electronic message, along with any attachments, is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any proprietary information or intellectual property contained in this transmission remains the sole and exclusive property of Marshall & Swift or Marshall & Swift/Boeckh. No right to use any products or services described in this transmission is valid without an executed and paid license agreement. If you received this in error, please reply to advise the sender and delete the material from any computer.

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filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz)
by Ziller, Frank 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

Has anyone successfully installed the filer-mrtg application (downloaded off now.netapp.com) on Red Hat 7.3 or Red Hat 9. It looks like I am having some problems with either\both perl and mrtg parsing data collected in the mrtg-filer-stats.sh shell script. See below. [root@atl01-lnx-75 bin]# /opt/nasmrtg/bin/mrtg-filer-stats.sh 10.10.18.21 password + SERVER=10.10.18.21 + PORT=password + USER= + PASSWD= + MRTG_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin + MRTG_BIN=/opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin + FILER_STATS_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg + BASE_WORKDIR=/opt/nasmrtg/monitor + CONF=/opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg + INDEX_FILE=/opt/nasmrtg/monitor/10.10.18.21/index.html + TITLE=Filer statistics for '10.10.18.21' + REGEX=10.10.18.21 + /opt/nasmrtg/bin/retrieve-filer.sh 10.10.18.21 + SERVER=10.10.18.21 + FILER_ASCII_PORT= + USERNAME= + PASSWD= + FILER_STATS_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg + PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/gnu/bin:/opt/nasmrtg/bin: + export PATH + DATA_FILE=/opt/nasmrtg/data/retrieve-filer-10.10.18.21.dat + GNU_EGREP= + RCMD=rsh + echo 'Name: 10.10.18.21' + retrieve-cpu.pl 10.10.18.21 + /opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin/mrtg /opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg Array found where operator expected at (eval 177) line 1, at end of line * Problem with '1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.2.0&1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0:public@10.10.18.21': syntax error at (eval 177) line 1, near "1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0:" + /opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin/indexmaker /opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg 'Filer statistics for '\''10.10.18.21'\''' 10.10.18.21 + exit 0 [root@atl01-lnx-75 bin]# Thanks, Frank _________ Frank Ziller IKON Network Center IKON The Way Business Gets Communicated 5755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Norcross, GA 30092 678.728.0601 fax: 678.547.2190 email: fziller(a)ikon.com <mailto:fziller@ikon.com>

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Running Postgresql with db on Netapp
by Aditya 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

Hi, We've been running Postgresql (7.2.x) on FreeBSD with the database files on a Netapp F85. The mounts are NFSv3/TCP with no special tuning on the filer or client. This is a single db server accessing the database on a rw mount so there are no traditional filesystem locking problems (AFAIK). We seem to have hit a performance wall (vs. a linux box with local IDE drive) and I've been reading the various whitepapers on the NetApp website about Oracle/Informix and filers and started to follow the recommendations: - checked that all interfaces on nfs client/switch/filer are 100baseTX-FD - turned minra on, which made the filer slightly more responsive but nothing spectacular - changed the mount options to include -w=32768,-r=32768 with no perceptible difference (also increased it to 65536 for both r and w with no change) - turned fsync off in Postgres (yes, I know it's risky, but I'm trying to figure out why this is so borked) - unlike solaris there is no "direct access" mode in FreeBSD to prevent the NFS client from caching which is 2x as wasteful since the db is also caching You can see the general performance stats (which are matched by "human perception" testing) for this filer ever since we turned on a heavy-duty application last Thursday: http://dev.zapatec.com/website/internal/stats/netapp/zilch.pr.zapatec.com/ and the various tweaking described above hasn't made much of a difference as you can see from the graphs (5 minute averages). current sysstat snapshot is pretty consistent and looks like this: zilch> sysstat 1 CPU NFS CIFS HTTP Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache in out read write read write age 9% 1450 0 0 1324 3726 3392 0 0 0 0 8% 1744 0 0 1323 3863 3916 0 0 0 0 10% 1588 0 0 1539 3617 3048 0 0 0 0 9% 1940 0 0 2251 3149 3140 4 0 0 0 8% 1718 0 0 401 3750 3288 2816 0 0 0 10% 1440 0 0 2327 3253 3504 0 0 0 0 9% 1648 0 0 2052 3504 3308 0 0 0 0 10% 1425 0 0 1625 3459 3172 0 0 0 0 8% 1709 0 0 1925 3167 3184 0 0 0 0 Any suggestions or hints of what to try other than don't run a db over NFS if you want performance: http://www.sunmanagers.org/pipermail/summaries/2000-December/000072.html After all, I presume that Oracle and Informix using a filer are doing well enough that people stick with the filer? Thanks, Adi

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NFS performances with Samba server ?
by Frank Bonnet 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

Hi Due to lack of Samba PDC support by Netapp filers I use a Samba server working with NFS on a Filer. That is Windows clients access to users's data thru the samba server. I need to boost a bit NFS access from samba server to Netapp filer, actually I use NFS over TCP and I wonder if using it over UDP will accelerate a bit ? Any infos / tricks welcome PS : the filer is plugged to the LAN over a Giga-ethernet link Thanks -- Frank Bonnet Responsable Reseau et Sytemes UNIX Groupe ESIEE Paris

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