Hi Folks,Do the failover group get generated by netapp intial install?Somehow I have a group call "0ba_fg" on the node that is called 06b. Looks like someone made a typo.But most importantly: It look like the policy for node mgmt IP only have 1 node in it, is that right? Should the second node be in the policy for mgmt1 for each node?the way it is setup now, will it failover? Logical Home Failover FailoverVserver Interface Node:Port Policy Group-------- --------------- --------------------- --------------- ---------------06a clus1 06a:e0a nextavail system-defined clus2 06a:e0c nextavail system-defined mgmt1 06a:e0M nextavail 06a_fg Failover Targets: 06a:e0M06b clus1 06b:e0a nextavail system-defined clus2 06b:e0c nextavail system-defined mgmt1 06b:e0M nextavail 0ba_fg
FailoverGroup Node Port------------------- ----------------- ----------06a_fg 06a e0M0ba_fg 06b e0M
Failover groups are not created automatically. It is very tricky to determine programmatically that ports are really on the same network. Although it would be sane to use the same port on each node for the same purpose, it is not required. Also, we wouldn’t know that two ports on the same node are on the same network.
There is no value in node management ports failing over to another node if the first node goes down. If it’s down, you can’t manage it anyway, so no point in having them fail over. However, it makes certain sense to have a failover group within the node, if you have multiple ports on the mgmt network. If you have a problem with a port or cable, the LIF would fail over and you could still manage the node. Your command output doesn’t show multiple ports on the mgmt net, so the failover groups don’t do anything.
Your cluster mgmt LIF should have a failover group with a port on each node.
Share and enjoy!
Peter
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Iluhes Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:44 PM To: Toasters Subject: cmod failover group
Hi Folks, Do the failover group get generated by netapp intial install? Somehow I have a group call "0ba_fg" on the node that is called 06b. Looks like someone made a typo. But most importantly: It look like the policy for node mgmt IP only have 1 node in it, is that right? Should the second node be in the policy for mgmt1 for each node? the way it is setup now, will it failover?
Logical Home Failover Failover Vserver Interface Node:Port Policy Group -------- --------------- --------------------- --------------- --------------- 06a clus1 06a:e0a nextavail system-defined clus2 06a:e0c nextavail system-defined mgmt1 06a:e0M nextavail 06a_fg Failover Targets: 06a:e0M 06b clus1 06b:e0a nextavail system-defined clus2 06b:e0c nextavail system-defined mgmt1 06b:e0M nextavail 0ba_fg
Failover Group Node Port ------------------- ----------------- ---------- 06a_fg 06a e0M 0ba_fg 06b e0M
thanks Peter, so it looks like I created with gui tool is toast. I have to modify failover groups for all lifs that are using vlan interfaces. What about intercluster lifs? They need a second node in failover group or same story as mgmt interfaces?
On Jan 13, 2015, at 5:07 PM, "Learmonth, Peter" Peter.Learmonth@netapp.com wrote:
Failover groups are not created automatically. It is very tricky to determine programmatically that ports are really on the same network. Although it would be sane to use the same port on each node for the same purpose, it is not required. Also, we wouldn’t know that two ports on the same node are on the same network.
There is no value in node management ports failing over to another node if the first node goes down. If it’s down, you can’t manage it anyway, so no point in having them fail over. However, it makes certain sense to have a failover group within the node, if you have multiple ports on the mgmt network. If you have a problem with a port or cable, the LIF would fail over and you could still manage the node. Your command output doesn’t show multiple ports on the mgmt net, so the failover groups don’t do anything.
Your cluster mgmt LIF should have a failover group with a port on each node.
Share and enjoy!
Peter
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Iluhes Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:44 PM To: Toasters Subject: cmod failover group
Hi Folks, Do the failover group get generated by netapp intial install? Somehow I have a group call "0ba_fg" on the node that is called 06b. Looks like someone made a typo. But most importantly: It look like the policy for node mgmt IP only have 1 node in it, is that right? Should the second node be in the policy for mgmt1 for each node? the way it is setup now, will it failover?
Logical Home Failover FailoverVserver Interface Node:Port Policy Group
06a clus1 06a:e0a nextavail system-defined clus2 06a:e0c nextavail system-defined mgmt1 06a:e0M nextavail 06a_fg Failover Targets: 06a:e0M 06b clus1 06b:e0a nextavail system-defined clus2 06b:e0c nextavail system-defined mgmt1 06b:e0M nextavail 0ba_fg
Failover Group Node Port
06a_fg 06a e0M 0ba_fg 06b e0M
Yes, you definitely want failover groups with VLAN ports to keep LIFs within their respective VLANs. Some examples: eadrax::> failover-groups show (network interface failover-groups show) Failover Vserver Group Targets ---------------- ---------------- -------------------------------------------- eadrax eadrax-01_intercluster eadrax-01:e0a eadrax-02_intercluster eadrax-02:e0a eadrax-03_intercluster eadrax-03:e0a eadrax-04_intercluster eadrax-04:e0a lbt_test eadrax-04:e1b-101, eadrax-04:e2b-101, eadrax-01:e1b-101, eadrax-01:e2b-101, eadrax-02:e1b-101, eadrax-02:e2b-101, eadrax-03:e1b-101, eadrax-03:e2b-101 pubnet172 eadrax-04:e0a, eadrax-01:e0a, eadrax-02:e0a, eadrax-03:e0a stgnet42 eadrax-04:a0b-42, eadrax-01:a0b-42, eadrax-02:a0b-42, eadrax-03:a0b-42 vlan103 eadrax-04:e1b-103, eadrax-04:e2b-103, eadrax-01:e1b-103, eadrax-01:e2b-103, eadrax-02:e1b-103, eadrax-02:e2b-103, eadrax-03:e1b-103, eadrax-03:e2b-103
Failover groups for ICL would be similar to mgmt LIF failover groups – the failover group would consist of ports on a single node. SnapMirror uses an ICL LIF on the node hosting the volume being replicated and will not replicate via LIF on a different node.
Peter
From: Iluhes [mailto:iluhes@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:10 PM To: Learmonth, Peter Cc: Toasters Subject: Re: cmod failover group
thanks Peter, so it looks like I created with gui tool is toast. I have to modify failover groups for all lifs that are using vlan interfaces. What about intercluster lifs? They need a second node in failover group or same story as mgmt interfaces?
On Jan 13, 2015, at 5:07 PM, "Learmonth, Peter" <Peter.Learmonth@netapp.commailto:Peter.Learmonth@netapp.com> wrote:
Failover groups are not created automatically. It is very tricky to determine programmatically that ports are really on the same network. Although it would be sane to use the same port on each node for the same purpose, it is not required. Also, we wouldn’t know that two ports on the same node are on the same network.
There is no value in node management ports failing over to another node if the first node goes down. If it’s down, you can’t manage it anyway, so no point in having them fail over. However, it makes certain sense to have a failover group within the node, if you have multiple ports on the mgmt network. If you have a problem with a port or cable, the LIF would fail over and you could still manage the node. Your command output doesn’t show multiple ports on the mgmt net, so the failover groups don’t do anything.
Your cluster mgmt LIF should have a failover group with a port on each node.
Share and enjoy!
Peter
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.netmailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Iluhes Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:44 PM To: Toasters Subject: cmod failover group
Hi Folks, Do the failover group get generated by netapp intial install? Somehow I have a group call "0ba_fg" on the node that is called 06b. Looks like someone made a typo. But most importantly: It look like the policy for node mgmt IP only have 1 node in it, is that right? Should the second node be in the policy for mgmt1 for each node? the way it is setup now, will it failover?
Logical Home Failover Failover Vserver Interface Node:Port Policy Group -------- --------------- --------------------- --------------- --------------- 06a clus1 06a:e0a nextavail system-defined clus2 06a:e0c nextavail system-defined mgmt1 06a:e0M nextavail 06a_fg Failover Targets: 06a:e0M 06b clus1 06b:e0a nextavail system-defined clus2 06b:e0c nextavail system-defined mgmt1 06b:e0M nextavail 0ba_fg
Failover Group Node Port ------------------- ----------------- ---------- 06a_fg 06a e0M 0ba_fg 06b e0M
Forgot to mention: TR-4015 talks about intercluster LIFS and includes failover groups.
From: Learmonth, Peter Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 6:10 PM To: 'Iluhes' Cc: Toasters Subject: RE: cmod failover group
Yes, you definitely want failover groups with VLAN ports to keep LIFs within their respective VLANs. Some examples: eadrax::> failover-groups show (network interface failover-groups show) Failover Vserver Group Targets ---------------- ---------------- -------------------------------------------- eadrax eadrax-01_intercluster eadrax-01:e0a eadrax-02_intercluster eadrax-02:e0a eadrax-03_intercluster eadrax-03:e0a eadrax-04_intercluster eadrax-04:e0a lbt_test eadrax-04:e1b-101, eadrax-04:e2b-101, eadrax-01:e1b-101, eadrax-01:e2b-101, eadrax-02:e1b-101, eadrax-02:e2b-101, eadrax-03:e1b-101, eadrax-03:e2b-101 pubnet172 eadrax-04:e0a, eadrax-01:e0a, eadrax-02:e0a, eadrax-03:e0a stgnet42 eadrax-04:a0b-42, eadrax-01:a0b-42, eadrax-02:a0b-42, eadrax-03:a0b-42 vlan103 eadrax-04:e1b-103, eadrax-04:e2b-103, eadrax-01:e1b-103, eadrax-01:e2b-103, eadrax-02:e1b-103, eadrax-02:e2b-103, eadrax-03:e1b-103, eadrax-03:e2b-103
Failover groups for ICL would be similar to mgmt LIF failover groups – the failover group would consist of ports on a single node. SnapMirror uses an ICL LIF on the node hosting the volume being replicated and will not replicate via LIF on a different node.
Peter
From: Iluhes [mailto:iluhes@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:10 PM To: Learmonth, Peter Cc: Toasters Subject: Re: cmod failover group
thanks Peter, so it looks like I created with gui tool is toast. I have to modify failover groups for all lifs that are using vlan interfaces. What about intercluster lifs? They need a second node in failover group or same story as mgmt interfaces?
On Jan 13, 2015, at 5:07 PM, "Learmonth, Peter" <Peter.Learmonth@netapp.commailto:Peter.Learmonth@netapp.com> wrote:
Failover groups are not created automatically. It is very tricky to determine programmatically that ports are really on the same network. Although it would be sane to use the same port on each node for the same purpose, it is not required. Also, we wouldn’t know that two ports on the same node are on the same network.
There is no value in node management ports failing over to another node if the first node goes down. If it’s down, you can’t manage it anyway, so no point in having them fail over. However, it makes certain sense to have a failover group within the node, if you have multiple ports on the mgmt network. If you have a problem with a port or cable, the LIF would fail over and you could still manage the node. Your command output doesn’t show multiple ports on the mgmt net, so the failover groups don’t do anything.
Your cluster mgmt LIF should have a failover group with a port on each node.
Share and enjoy!
Peter
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.netmailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Iluhes Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:44 PM To: Toasters Subject: cmod failover group
Hi Folks, Do the failover group get generated by netapp intial install? Somehow I have a group call "0ba_fg" on the node that is called 06b. Looks like someone made a typo. But most importantly: It look like the policy for node mgmt IP only have 1 node in it, is that right? Should the second node be in the policy for mgmt1 for each node? the way it is setup now, will it failover?
Logical Home Failover Failover Vserver Interface Node:Port Policy Group -------- --------------- --------------------- --------------- --------------- 06a clus1 06a:e0a nextavail system-defined clus2 06a:e0c nextavail system-defined mgmt1 06a:e0M nextavail 06a_fg Failover Targets: 06a:e0M 06b clus1 06b:e0a nextavail system-defined clus2 06b:e0c nextavail system-defined mgmt1 06b:e0M nextavail 0ba_fg
Failover Group Node Port ------------------- ----------------- ---------- 06a_fg 06a e0M 0ba_fg 06b e0M
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