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accessing ntfs qtree from nt nfs client
by neil lehrer 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

hi, volume is unix style, qtrees are what ever i set them to, no mixed. i set up an ntfs qtree vol/vol0/smalltest2 full path to userdir is vol/vol0/smalltest2/k/kusr1 there is an export for vol/vol0/smalltest2. kusr1 is the owner of vol/vol0/smalltest2/k/kusr1 and has an acl with full control. for both /smalltest2/k and /smalltest2 everyone has an acl with full control, which should be overkill. RX should be enough. if kusr1 uses an nfs[we haven't moved over to cifs yet, migrating] connection from an nt 4.0 wkstation and tries to save a file into vol/vol0/smalltest2/k/kusr1 the application[word, notepad, etc.] says folder is read only. file name is entered into dir, but no data in file. from a mount on a sun box it looks like this: # ls -al drwxrwxrwx 4 root other 4096 Dec 17 12:47 smalltest2 # cd smalltest2 # ls -al drwxrwxrwx 3 root other 4096 Dec 13 15:43 k # cd k # ls -al drwxrwxrwx 2 kusr1 root 4096 Dec 17 12:08 kusr1 ~~~~~~~~~ "Account Domain not found" is a local grp on the filer that cacls does not understand. F:\>cacls smalltest2 F:\smalltest2 <Account Domain not found>(OI)(IO)F <Account Domain not found>(CI)F Everyone:(OI)(IO)F Everyone:(CI)F F:\>cacls smalltest2\k F:\smalltest2\k domain_name\nlehrer:(OI)(IO)F domain_name\nlehrer:(CI)F Everyone:(OI)(IO)F Everyone:(CI)F <Account Domain not found>(OI)(IO)F <Account Domain not found>(CI)F F:\>cacls smalltest2\k\kusr1 F:\smalltest2\k\kusr1 domain_name\kusr1:(CI)F domain_name\nlehrer:(CI)(special access:) READ_CONTROL SYNCHRONIZE FILE_GENERIC_READ FILE_GENERIC_WRITE FILE_GENERIC_EXECUTE FILE_READ_DATA FILE_WRITE_DATA FILE_APPEND_DATA FILE_READ_EA FILE_WRITE_EA FILE_EXECUTE FILE_DELETE_CHILD FILE_READ_ATTRIBUTES FILE_WRITE_ATTRIBUTES <Account Domain not found>F domain_name\kusr1:(OI)(IO)F domain_name\nlehrer:(OI)(IO)(special access:) GENERIC_READ GENERIC_WRITE GENERIC_EXECUTE FILE_DELETE_CHILD <Account Domain not found>(OI)(CI)(IO)F ontap is 6.1.1r2 access by nt nfs client to our sun servers has always worked fine. anybody have any ideas? netapp has pktt traces, no response yet. -- regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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moving qtrees to new volume
by Leigh David Heyman 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

Does anyone have any advice/experiences/warnings on moving data from one volume to another. We're about to create a new volume on a new shelf, and we want to move about 10 qtrees on to the new volume, and I'm looking to see if anyone has any recommendations on how best to accomplish this quickly, and without altering the data, or metadata? Thanks -Leigh

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RE: questions regarding setting up cifs.home_dir
by Maglinger, Paul 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

So what we already have set up in User Manager for Domains as mapping drive X to \\filer\home won't be affected, but we can change it to \\filer\%username% to go directly to the folder. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Losen [mailto:scl@sasha.acc.virginia.edu] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 15:20 To: toasters Subject: Re: questions regarding setting up cifs.home_dir > With all the discussion about setting up the home directories on the filer, > I have a few questions... > > On NOW, it says that if you set up home directories the only folders that a > user will be able to see will be their own. Does this apply to > administrator as well. Will the administrator be able to see and access all > home directories? Currently we have set aside an area of the filer for home > directories, but the whole company is not using them. So basically we are > just mapping the home directory to a drive in User Manager for Domains. So > my question is, if I start using cifs.home_dir, does anyone foresee any > problems. I don't want to have a situation where my users can't access > their data, right? I don't see any problem here. We have it set up both ways on our filers. We have a "HOME" share at the top of our home directory tree and if you attach to \\filer\HOME then you have to "drill down" to whatever directory you want. And we also provide the cifs.home_dir directory so that you can attach to \\filer\username and go straight to your own directory. Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support

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RE: questions regarding setting up cifs.home_dir
by Ballard.Derek 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

Greetings, Typically, the "Administrator" account(s) can connect to the administrative share (e.g. C$) of a volume. Simply connect to the administrative share and traverse into the %cifs.home_dir% and into whatever subdirectory you want to. The question becomes more interesting if you want non-admins to be able to access user home directories not their own. --- ************************* Derek Ballard ballard1(a)niehs.nih.gov NIEHS ITSS Contract ************************* > -----Original Message----- > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:PMAGLINGER@scvl.com] > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:22 PM > To: toasters > Subject: questions regarding setting up cifs.home_dir > > > With all the discussion about setting up the home directories > on the filer, > I have a few questions... > > On NOW, it says that if you set up home directories the only > folders that a > user will be able to see will be their own. Does this apply to > administrator as well. Will the administrator be able to see > and access all > home directories? Currently we have set aside an area of the > filer for home > directories, but the whole company is not using them. So > basically we are > just mapping the home directory to a drive in User Manager > for Domains. So > my question is, if I start using cifs.home_dir, does anyone > foresee any > problems. I don't want to have a situation where my users > can't access > their data, right? >

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questions regarding setting up cifs.home_dir
by Maglinger, Paul 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

With all the discussion about setting up the home directories on the filer, I have a few questions... On NOW, it says that if you set up home directories the only folders that a user will be able to see will be their own. Does this apply to administrator as well. Will the administrator be able to see and access all home directories? Currently we have set aside an area of the filer for home directories, but the whole company is not using them. So basically we are just mapping the home directory to a drive in User Manager for Domains. So my question is, if I start using cifs.home_dir, does anyone foresee any problems. I don't want to have a situation where my users can't access their data, right?

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RE: trying to make SDLTs work on F840 filer
by Melvin, Grant 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

Hi Jeff, SDLT, Seagate LTO and STK 9940 support was added in 6.1.2 which was made available on NOW last Monday (12/10). This has already been reflected in our supported tape device web page at: http://www.netapp.com/solutions/data_protection_devices.html Cheers, Grant For information on NetApp's Data Protection Solutions view http://www.netapp.com/solutions/data_protection.html. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Kennedy [mailto:jlkennedy@amcc.com] > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:48 AM > To: Carruthers Paul A > Cc: 'A. M. McCool'; toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: trying to make SDLTs work on F840 filer > > > How is that possible? I thought SDLT wasn't supported until OT 6.2? > > ~JK > > "Carruthers, Paul A" wrote: > > > > Not the same config but we're using SDLT's in an ATL P3000 via fiber > > channel. Initial testing has been good - dumps and restores > OK. Filer saw > > the drives as SDLT's without issue. > > > > We have them on a 760c, though with 6.1.2. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: A. M. McCool [mailto:ammccoo@super.org] > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:49 PM > > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com; ammccoo(a)super.org > > Subject: trying to make SDLTs work on F840 filer > > > > We just upgraded our F840 to Ontap-6.1.2 specifically to > get Super DLT > > suppport. We're also running the latest firmware 3.1_i1. > We rebooted > > after connecting scsi diff cable to drive. sysconfig -t > shows no tape > > drives present on system. > > > > Connected filer back to DLT 7000 and the filer see the lower density > > drives. > > Anyone using SDLTs tape drives yet? Doesn't seem to be much to the > > configuration, so not much room for error. > > > > Anna Mc. > > -- > Jeff Kennedy > UNIX Systems Administrator > AMCC > jkennedy(a)amcc.com >

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RE: trying to make SDLTs work on F840 filer
by Carruthers, Paul A 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

Not the same config but we're using SDLT's in an ATL P3000 via fiber channel. Initial testing has been good - dumps and restores OK. Filer saw the drives as SDLT's without issue. We have them on a 760c, though with 6.1.2. -----Original Message----- From: A. M. McCool [mailto:ammccoo@super.org] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:49 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com; ammccoo(a)super.org Subject: trying to make SDLTs work on F840 filer We just upgraded our F840 to Ontap-6.1.2 specifically to get Super DLT suppport. We're also running the latest firmware 3.1_i1. We rebooted after connecting scsi diff cable to drive. sysconfig -t shows no tape drives present on system. Connected filer back to DLT 7000 and the filer see the lower density drives. Anyone using SDLTs tape drives yet? Doesn't seem to be much to the configuration, so not much room for error. Anna Mc.

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cifs.home_dir and symbolic links?
by neil lehrer 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

has anybody had experience doing cifs.home_dir this way? i am having a problem. i'm sure i am missing something. the original post was from me and steve losen answered. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ neil said: > hi, > > our homedir structure is /vol/vol0/users/a/adam > > we want to use the subst cmd instead of 'net use' because we go below the > share. and since we have the first letter of the userid in there we can't use > the ontap homedir option. > > however, we can't get subst to work as a user. > > C:\WINNTSRV>subst q: \\filer\u7\k\kusr1 > Path not found - \\filer\u7\k\kusr1 > > subst works fine as admin. We get around this problem by creating a directory with a bunch of symbolic links in it, and making that directory our cifs.home_dir. You'll need to make the symbolic links on a NFS client. For example, we have this: options cifs.home_dir /home/shares And we have a symbolic link for each user like these: /home/shares/abc9d -> /h1/a/ab/abc9d /home/shares/fgh8i -> /h1/f/fg/fgh8i etc. On our system both /home/shares and /h1 are in our root volume, or else we would have to use paths like /vol/vol1/home/shares and /vol/vol1/h1/a/ab/abc9d. It's very easy to create all these symbolic links with the unix shell. For example, on our system you could do this: cd /h1 for x in ?/??; do ( cd $x for loginid in *; do test -d $loginid && ln -s /h1/$x/$loginid /home/shares done ) done Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- thanks. regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Re: shopping for refurb filers
by ScottUCE＠aol.com 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

There are many exceptions to NetApp's formal policy -- used NetApp filers with "freely transferable software" do, in fact, exist. NetApp has been very cooperative in the transfer of "used" software licenses to many of our customers. Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott(a)unioncomputer.com ****************************************************************************** ******************** In a message dated 12/17/2001 9:42:02 AM Central Standard Time, SRoche(a)datalink.com writes: > This is Netapps formal policy regarding "freely transferable" software > licenses. > > <A HREF="http://www.netapp.com/support/ues.html">http://www.netapp.com/support/ues.html</A> > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] >> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 9:49 AM >> To: walt(a)dwkcb.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com >> Subject: Re: shopping for refurb filers >> >> >> In a message dated 12/14/2001 2:47:05 PM Central Standard Time, >> walt(a)dwkcb.com writes: >> >> >> >>> Are there any good places to get used/off-lease >>> refurbished filers at good prices? They have to have some >>> sort of warranty even if its only 90 days. >> >> >> We have all models of used NetApp F700 series filers and add-ons -- >> available at deep discounts, configured to suit, and fully warranted. >> Some have freely transferable NFS, CIFS and/or Cluster licenses; others >> are great for back-up systems and/or spares kits. >> >> Regards, >> >> Scott Fischmann >> Union Computer Exchange, Inc. >> 6233 Idylwood Lane >> Minneapolis, MN 55436 >> Phone: 952 935 7282 >> FAX: 952 935 5056 >> scott(a)unioncomputer.com >

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RE: shopping for refurb filers
by Steve Roche 17 Dec '01

17 Dec '01

This is Netapps formal policy regarding "freely transferable" software licenses. http://www.netapp.com/support/ues.html <http://www.netapp.com/support/ues.html> -----Original Message----- From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 9:49 AM To: walt(a)dwkcb.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: shopping for refurb filers In a message dated 12/14/2001 2:47:05 PM Central Standard Time, walt(a)dwkcb.com writes: Are there any good places to get used/off-lease refurbished filers at good prices? They have to have some sort of warranty even if its only 90 days. We have all models of used NetApp F700 series filers and add-ons -- available at deep discounts, configured to suit, and fully warranted. Some have freely transferable NFS, CIFS and/or Cluster licenses; others are great for back-up systems and/or spares kits. Regards, Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott(a)unioncomputer.com

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