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Toasterite in the news
by Joe Luchtenberg 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

http://www.netapp.com/news/press/2002/news_rel_20020320a.html See the testimonial from frequent contributer Jeff Kennedy near the bottom of the press release. Jeff, you are quite the spokesman! Joe Luchtenberg Dataline, Inc. Email: <mailto:joe.luchtenberg@data-line.com> Phone: 757-457-0504 (direct line) 757-858-0600 (front desk) 757-285-1223 (mobile) Fax: 757-858-0606 Please visit us at <http://www.data-line.com/>

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rm -rf on filers?
by Daniel Jung 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Hi fellow toasters, I have a 20GB size directory which I need to get rid of from one of the volumes on a F630 filer. If the directory was only data on the volume, I would just destroy the volume but it is not. The total volume size is 180GB. Is there a better way of doing rm -rf from the client? Ontap: 6.0.1R3 Filer:F630s with FC8 shelves Thanks in advance. Daniel Jung System Administrator GMO inc

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6.1.2R2 in dev environments
by Clawson, Simon 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Hi! Has anyone installed OnTap 6.1.2R2 on a development filer? I am particualrly interested in groups who use RCS, Sniff and revision control systems. I had a big problem last OS upgrade (5.3.2R2) and want to be prepared this time round.. Simon Clawson Simon Clawson TEL:- +44 (0)1635 811409 HDL Designer Series Team Systems Administrator FAX:- +44 (0)1635 810108 Mentor Graphics Ireland Ltd (UK Branch) MOB:- +44 (0)7788 716071 Rivergate London Road Newbury Berkshire RG14 2QB

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Toaster
by Theresa Bichsel 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

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RE: Any NDMB backup applications warnings?
by Breniser, Larry 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

SCSI attached tape drives. LB -----Original Message----- From: Todd Phillips [mailto:toddp@iarchive.com] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 12:54 PM To: Breniser, Larry; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Any NDMB backup applications warnings? Are you doing straight NDMP to fibre or SCSI direct attached Tape drives or is this SAN attached Filers in a Dynamic Drive Sharing environment? What are your basic goals and requirements? -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Breniser, Larry Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 4:24 PM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Any NDMB backup applications warnings? We are evaluating backup applications for our filers. Currently we are talking to Veritas (NetBackup), Legato (Networker) and CA (BrightStor). We may also speak to Workstation Solutions (Quick Restore). I would be interested in hearing about the communities experience with these products. In particular I would like to hear about any show-stoppers, major problems or even minor problems with any of these products when used to backup NetApp filers. Tanx! Larry

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What brand of gig cards does Netapp use? Intel, 3com, ??
by Art Hebert 16 Mar '02

16 Mar '02

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Any NDMB backup applications warnings?
by Breniser, Larry 16 Mar '02

16 Mar '02

We are evaluating backup applications for our filers. Currently we are talking to Veritas (NetBackup), Legato (Networker) and CA (BrightStor). We may also speak to Workstation Solutions (Quick Restore). I would be interested in hearing about the communities experience with these products. In particular I would like to hear about any show-stoppers, major problems or even minor problems with any of these products when used to backup NetApp filers. Tanx! Larry

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time/ntp problem
by Ozzie Sabina 16 Mar '02

16 Mar '02

I have a clustered pair of 840s running DOT 6.1.1R2. I also have a clustered pair of 760s running the same version of DOT. I'm talking about the 840s below, but I see the exact same behavior on the 760s. I am attempting to enable ntp on the filers, but it doesn't appear to be working. Here's my "timed" options: cf.timed.enable on (same value in local+partner recommended) timed.enable on (same value in local+partner recommended) timed.log on (same value in local+partner recommended) timed.max_skew 1h (same value in local+partner recommended) timed.min_skew 50 (same value in local+partner recommended) timed.proto ntp (same value in local+partner recommended) timed.sched 30m (same value in local+partner recommended) timed.servers ntp (same value in local+partner recommended) (The host 'ntp' is in the hosts file) Although it reports timing discrepancies, it doesn't actually change the time on the box...at least not the one reported by 'date': fatman> date Fri Mar 15 17:56:45 EST 2002 fatman> Fri Mar 15 17:56:47 EST [fatman: Java Thread:info]: CfTimeDaemon: timed: adjusting time: filer thinks time is Fri Mar 15 22:56:47 GMT 2002. Time reported by time server ntp is Fri Mar 15 23:05:20 GMT 2002 (skew +513.246 secs). fatman> date Fri Mar 15 17:57:00 EST 2002 Behavior is the same on both cluster boxes: littleboy> date Fri Mar 15 17:41:15 EST 2002 littleboy> Fri Mar 15 17:41:22 EST [littleboy: Java Thread:info]: CfTimeDaemon: timed: adjusting time: filer thinks time is Fri Mar 15 17:41:21 EST 2002. Time reported by time server cluster is Fri Mar 15 17:47:06 EST 2002 (skew +345.099 secs). littleboy> date Fri Mar 15 17:41:27 EST 2002 As I mentioned before, the 760s are doing the exact same thing. Is there something here that I'm missing? -=- In addition to this, I observed some additionally disturbing behavior on one of these boxes. After rebooting the box, the clock didn't advance for over 5 minutes: fatman> date Fri Mar 15 17:46:29 EST 2002 fatman> date Fri Mar 15 17:46:29 EST 2002 fatman> date Fri Mar 15 17:46:29 EST 2002 fatman> date Fri Mar 15 17:46:29 EST 2002 fatman> date Fri Mar 15 17:46:29 EST 2002 fatman> date Fri Mar 15 17:46:29 EST 2002 fatman> date Fri Mar 15 17:46:29 EST 2002 ... (Those were typed in over several "real" minutes, then miraculously for no *apparent* reason, it started updating): fatman> date Fri Mar 15 17:46:29 EST 2002 fatman> date Fri Mar 15 17:46:32 EST 2002 fatman> date Fri Mar 15 17:46:57 EST 2002 fatman> date Fri Mar 15 17:46:59 EST 2002 ... I've only seen this with one of the boxes and only once - since the box is in semi-production I can't afford to keep rebooting it to see if the behavior is consistant. Anyone else seen this? I checked NOW for a bug on my version of DOT with 'ntp' or 'date' in the title - no dice. Next up is opening a case with NA, I suppose. Oz

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Using diff on snapshots
by mitch＠netline.com 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

Greetings! I've run across an issue that I'm surprised I've never run across before. I needed to find the differences between a file and it's counterpart in the snapshot area. When I ran a diff, it reported no differences. That was quite the shock since I knew for a fact the file had changed, albeit ever so slightly. I used cmp(1) on it, and it quickly noted that the files were different. # diff .snapshot/weekly.0/index.config index.config # cmp .snapshot/weekly.0/index.config index.config .snapshot/weekly.0/index.config index.config differ: char 2787, line 89 # tail -1 .snapshot/weekly.0/index.config index.config ==> .snapshot/weekly.0/index.config <== path: /home/indy ==> index.config <== path: /home/indy/clients There were more differences than this, but I knew the last line had a simple difference for this demonstration. Some observations: 1. If I use sdiff, it shows the files being identical... and always shows the line I know will differ as the one in the first file. 2. If I copy the two files, so neither is in the snapshot area, diff works as one would expect. 3. If I diff two completely different files, it does the right thing. I have reproduced this with clients running several releases of Solaris/SunOS as well as hosts running FreeBSD. Our filer is happily running 5.3.2R1P1D1. -- do svidaniya, ~mitch

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RE: FC_AL in slot 8?
by Walsh, Warren (MN65) 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

We had the same problem. Pretty easy to move the QLA 2100 FC-AL card to slot 1. There was a bug in an older version of the 7xx firmware (2.3 maybe?) that caused a panic with certain cards in certain slots. We ended up calling NetApp tech support and removing the gig-E cards to get the filer to boot, and then upgraded the firmware (2.8). The filer would then boot properly with the cards in the recommended slots. What's interesting is that the FC-AL card *came* in slot 8 when we got our 740 directly from NetApp. It's not like we put it in the wrong slot on purpose. We never even thought about the slot positions until we put in the gig-E cards, and then noticed the sysconfig errors. The recommendations from sysconfig -c and the NetApp "put this card in this slot" matrix do not seem to be in agreement. -warren Warren Walsh Honeywell Laboratories Information Technology 612-951-7837 warren.walsh(a)honeywell.com -----Original Message----- From: Öberg Mats [mailto:mats.oberg@tietoenator.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 5:13 AM To: Toasters (E-mail) Subject: FC_AL in slot 8? Hi, does anyone know if it's ok to use slot 8 in the F760 for fc-al? I'm asking this because it's in that slot right now, and it seems to be working, but the filer keeps telling me that it should be in any slot but slot8, so I was going to move it, but then I found this on the now site: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- Make optimal use of Slot 8 This method of improving filer performance applies to F700 series filers only. The fastest available PCI slot in an F700 series filer that is not clustered is Slot 8. If your filer uses a 64-bit network interface card, put it in Slot 8 to take advantage of the speed. If the filer does not use a 64-bit network interface card, put the main FC-AL adapter in this slot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- So, if it´s ok then how can I get rid of theese annoying error messages? By the way were at OnTap 6.1.1R2. ---- Mats

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