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M2 firmware and NDMP
by Stout, Noelette 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

We running F840c filers backing up over NDMP (using NetBackup) to an Exabyte X200 library with Mammoth2 tape drives. We recently received notification from Exabyte that a firmware upgrade is available. We would like to do this upgrade, but do not want to cause any problems with the NDMP backups from the filer. Has anyone done this upgrade or have any insights into this? Thanks, Noelette Stout Unix System Administrator IKON Office Solutions, Inc Digital Express tel. (770)326-4140 fax (770)326-4139 email: nstout(a)ikon.com

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RE: displaying number of active cifs sessions
by Manny Ortega 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

That is correct ;) I have the OID on this page: http://redhook.univ-wea.com/mrtg/pikecifssessions.html -MannyO -----Original Message----- From: kevin graham [mailto:kgraham@dotnetdotcom.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:38 PM To: neil lehrer Cc: toasters Subject: Re: displaying number of active cifs sessions > if i want to know how many active sessions there are i do Just do an snmpget on: enterprises.netapp.netapp1.cifs.cifsInfo.cifsNSessions.0 (.1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.7.2.12.0 for the mib-impaired). ..kg..

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Hidden Commands?
by Ben Rockwood 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

Hello Toasters. Please forgive the stupidity of this post, but I've got to ask. Why is it that commands like, rdfile, do not apper in the OnTap admin guide or the command references? Is this a "taboo" command? OnTap online help (ie: help command) doesn't list it either. How many other commands like this are there, and why isn't it listed among other commands? brockwood(a)homestead-inc.com

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RE: displaying number of active cifs sessions
by Krzesinski, John 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

or, if running a recent version of ONTAP, you can do cifs sessions -summary from the command line (-summary also works for cifs shares). > -----Original Message----- > From: kevin graham [mailto:kgraham@dotnetdotcom.org] > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:38 AM > To: neil lehrer > Cc: toasters > Subject: Re: displaying number of active cifs sessions > > > > > if i want to know how many active sessions there are i do > > Just do an snmpget on: > > enterprises.netapp.netapp1.cifs.cifsInfo.cifsNSessions.0 > (.1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.7.2.12.0 for the mib-impaired). > > ..kg..

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displaying number of active cifs sessions
by neil lehrer 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

if i want to know how many active sessions there are i do rsh filer cifs sessions|find /c "(" i count the lines with a paren. this seems inefficient. is there a better way? i don't see anything in the manuals. thanks. --

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RE: Hidden Commands?
by Sam Schorr 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

The funny thing is that rdfile is as tame as it gets from a command standpoint, and does not require priv set advance (rc_toggle_basic). I also wonder how many Netapp owners do not know about the "hidden" commands? So, if the intention is to keep us from messing up by using such, maybe they should have used a more complex "secret handshake". --sam -----Original Message----- From: Chris Blackmor [mailto:chris.blackmor@amd.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:21 PM To: Mike Horwath Cc: Chris Blackmor; Ben Rockwood; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Hidden Commands? rc_toggle_basic Is that what you are looking for? C- On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:18:15PM -0600, Mike Horwath wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:02:53PM -0600, Chris Blackmor wrote: > > > > There are a bunch of "ninja" commands (as NetApp calls them). These > > can be powerful and very destructive so they aren't broadcast like normal > > commands. Some require you to "priv set advanced". > > > > I think they don't tell all because they are afraid of having to help > > pick up the pieces. ;) > > That version of the command doesn't work with OnTap 5.3.6R2 or below > for sure. > > (and damned if I can remember the command for the lower revisions) > > -- > Mike Horwath Admin & Manager @ VISI.com WORK: drechsau(a)visi.com > IRC: Drechsau http://www.visi.com/ HOME: drechsau(a)geeks.org > The only Minnesota ISP with public statistics: http://noc.visi.com/ > Garbage In -- Gospel Out. - berkeley fortune(6) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- * | When you're throwin' your * * Chris Blackmor _______ | weight around, * * Advanced Micro Devices \____ | | be ready to have it * * Phone: (512) 602-1608 /| | | | thrown around by * * Fax: (512) 602-5155 | |___| | | somebody else. * * Email: chris.blackmor(a)amd.com |____/ \| | Author Unknown* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- * My comments are mine, and mine alone. * -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: SQL I/O error
by Lella Bennett 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

As a quick follow-up, I'd like to clarify some of my comments below. First, it is my belief from doing extensive research into this problem that it is a Microsoft problem, not a problem with the functionality of the NetApp filer. Also, Network Appliance does provide a solution to this particular problem using their SnapDrive product. We participated in the beta testing of this product and we believe that it does in fact solve the error 59 problem with SQL Server. However, we have chosen not to implement SnapDrive at our site because of the overhead needed to run snapshots (50% of usable disk space) and in order to realize the increased performance of SnapDrive, we would have to do some extensive network re-engineering that at this time is not cost effective for us to do. Sincerely sorry if I misled anyone regarding our experience. Lella Bennett Systems Engineer NAREX Inc. 303.526.4000 ext 714 303.526.5130 fax 720.333.8175 cell www.narex.com -----Original Message----- From: Lella Bennett Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:56 PM To: Maglinger, Paul; NetApps list server Subject: RE: SQL I/O error We've seen it quite a bit, actually. In fact, this error is the reason we ended up removing our production databases from netapp filers. We've gone round and round with both NetApp and Microsoft on this issue and the bottom line is this: this error is due to the fact that the SQL traffic is going through the TCP/IP stack. Evidently, there is some latency that SQL server experiences while trying to communicate with the data file and the SQL server thinks that it's lost the connection and throws this error, marks the database suspect, etc... The other reason why this error may occur is that you've reached the maximum number of threads available. If this is the case, you will see an error in the NT event log referring to this. You can increase the number of available threads using a reg hack. If it's not caused by the threads issue, then I can't help ya. Like I said we experienced A LOT of pain due to this error and never could find a solution to it. Lella Bennett Systems Engineer NAREX Inc. 303.526.4000 ext 714 303.526.5130 fax 720.333.8175 cell www.narex.com -----Original Message----- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:PMAGLINGER@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:55 PM To: 'NetApps list server' Subject: SQL I/O error Anyone seen an SQL Server Error Log message saying : I/O error 59(An unexpected network error occurred.) detected during read of BUF pointer = 0x14685900, page ptr = 0x64c78000, pageid = (0x1:0x378), dbid = 7, status = 0x801, file = e:\sqldevices\dynamics\dyn\gpsdyn1dat.mdf.. where the e drive is mapped to our 740 filer running 6.1.1R2P1. We were looking at sysstat and CPU was at 95-100%, cache age fell from 35 to 0. Paul Maglinger, A+, CA, CET, MCSE Systems Administrator Shoe Carnival Inc. (812)867-4674 pmaglinger(a)scvl.com

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re: hidden commands
by Mark Conley 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

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RE: Hidden Commands?
by Ben Rockwood 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

So, obviously, the big question is where do i find a list of all the "ninja commands"? One thing I've always wanted in Filers was the ability to maintain a filer without having to mount the filesystem (root) from an adminstation. Is there a "cd" or "ls" command for admins? Even with rdfile you have to know where the files are. A much more advanced shell on the Filers would be very very nice. And from what I'm hearing, maybe it exsists but you need to "void_warrenty_on" ? brockwood(a)homestead-inc.com -----Original Message----- From: Sam Schorr Sent: Wed 3/20/2002 3:05 PM To: 'Chris Blackmor'; Mike Horwath Cc: Ben Rockwood; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Hidden Commands? The funny thing is that rdfile is as tame as it gets from a command standpoint, and does not require priv set advance (rc_toggle_basic). I also wonder how many Netapp owners do not know about the "hidden" commands? So, if the intention is to keep us from messing up by using such, maybe they should have used a more complex "secret handshake". --sam -----Original Message----- From: Chris Blackmor [mailto:chris.blackmor@amd.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:21 PM To: Mike Horwath Cc: Chris Blackmor; Ben Rockwood; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Hidden Commands? rc_toggle_basic Is that what you are looking for? C- On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:18:15PM -0600, Mike Horwath wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:02:53PM -0600, Chris Blackmor wrote: > > > > There are a bunch of "ninja" commands (as NetApp calls them). These > > can be powerful and very destructive so they aren't broadcast like normal > > commands. Some require you to "priv set advanced". > > > > I think they don't tell all because they are afraid of having to help > > pick up the pieces. ;) > > That version of the command doesn't work with OnTap 5.3.6R2 or below > for sure. > > (and damned if I can remember the command for the lower revisions) > > -- > Mike Horwath Admin & Manager @ VISI.com WORK: drechsau(a)visi.com > IRC: Drechsau http://www.visi.com/ HOME: drechsau(a)geeks.org > The only Minnesota ISP with public statistics: http://noc.visi.com/ > Garbage In -- Gospel Out. - berkeley fortune(6) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- * | When you're throwin' your * * Chris Blackmor _______ | weight around, * * Advanced Micro Devices \____ | | be ready to have it * * Phone: (512) 602-1608 /| | | | thrown around by * * Fax: (512) 602-5155 | |___| | | somebody else. * * Email: chris.blackmor(a)amd.com |____/ \| | Author Unknown* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- * My comments are mine, and mine alone. * -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Hidden Commands?
by Knight, Jason 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

I've always thought of these commands being analogous to the Windows/NT Resource Kits. They are very useful and powerful, but poorly documented, and unsupported - unless you are being walked through using them with support, they need to be used with caution. Jason Jason Knight Citadel Investment Group L.L.C. 312.338.5261 Office -----Original Message----- From: Sam Schorr [mailto:sschorr@homestead-inc.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 5:06 PM To: Chris Blackmor; Mike Horwath Cc: Ben Rockwood; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Hidden Commands? The funny thing is that rdfile is as tame as it gets from a command standpoint, and does not require priv set advance (rc_toggle_basic). I also wonder how many Netapp owners do not know about the "hidden" commands? So, if the intention is to keep us from messing up by using such, maybe they should have used a more complex "secret handshake". --sam -----Original Message----- From: Chris Blackmor [mailto:chris.blackmor@amd.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:21 PM To: Mike Horwath Cc: Chris Blackmor; Ben Rockwood; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Hidden Commands? rc_toggle_basic Is that what you are looking for? C- On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:18:15PM -0600, Mike Horwath wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:02:53PM -0600, Chris Blackmor wrote: > > > > There are a bunch of "ninja" commands (as NetApp calls them). These > > can be powerful and very destructive so they aren't broadcast like > > normal commands. Some require you to "priv set advanced". > > > > I think they don't tell all because they are afraid of having to > > help > > pick up the pieces. ;) > > That version of the command doesn't work with OnTap 5.3.6R2 or below > for sure. > > (and damned if I can remember the command for the lower revisions) > > -- > Mike Horwath Admin & Manager @ VISI.com WORK: drechsau(a)visi.com > IRC: Drechsau http://www.visi.com/ HOME: drechsau(a)geeks.org > The only Minnesota ISP with public statistics: http://noc.visi.com/ > Garbage In -- Gospel Out. - berkeley fortune(6) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - * | When you're throwin' your * * Chris Blackmor _______ | weight around, * * Advanced Micro Devices \____ | | be ready to have it * * Phone: (512) 602-1608 /| | | | thrown around by * * Fax: (512) 602-5155 | |___| | | somebody else. * * Email: chris.blackmor(a)amd.com |____/ \| | Author Unknown* ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - * My comments are mine, and mine alone. * ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -

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