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RE: NT file permissions lost on shares after logout
by Wurster, Richard M DSTI 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Definitely Secure Copy (Small Wonders Software) does the job. We migrated a Tb of data successfully last weekend using the product. --Rick Wurster -----Original Message----- From: Kitch, David [mailto:dkitch@ti.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:21 AM To: 'Pucky, Todd M.'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: NT file permissions lost on shares after logout We haven't had much success copying permissions with ROBOCOPY, even on NT and Win2K. You might try a third party application like SECURECOPY. You might also compare your revision of OnTap to the bug list. Regards, David ----------------------------------------------------- David Kitch Strategic Development Team ITS Design Systems - Texas Instruments Dallas, TX 214-480-1242 dkitch(a)ti.com ----------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Pucky, Todd M. [mailto:Puckyt@timken.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:49 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: NT file permissions lost on shares after logout I am a rookie on NetApp filers so this may be an easy one for some. I have an F840 filer with mapped NT 4 drives. I used ROBOCOPY.EXE to copy the data to the NetApp box so that file permissions would be maintained. I then went back to my NT box and mapped a drive to the NetApp box. Everything appeared to be fine. I then logged out of the NT box and logged in under a new user ID and all of the NT file permissions were lost. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to maintain these permissions when admins log out. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Todd M. Pucky The Timken Company Global Information Systems Programmer/Analyst 330.471.4583 puckyt(a)timken.com ********************************************************************** This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company **********************************************************************

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Firmware via TFTP?
by Brian Long 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Hello, I've searched the mailing list archives for similar threads and never saw a fix. Has anyone gotten a F700-series filer to load the firmware from a TFTP server? I understand the F800-series machines can be coerced into loading firmware via TFTP (although this is unsupported by Netapp). I'm interested in doing this for remote filers instead of inserting a diskette for firmware updates. Any info would be appreciated. /Brian/ -- Brian Long | | | Engineering Computer Services | .|||. .|||. Sr. Unix System Administrator | ..:|||||||:...:|||||||:.. Phone: (919) 392-7363 | C i s c o S y s t e m s

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RE: NT file permissions lost on shares after logout
by Kitch, David 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

We haven't had much success copying permissions with ROBOCOPY, even on NT and Win2K. You might try a third party application like SECURECOPY. You might also compare your revision of OnTap to the bug list. Regards, David ----------------------------------------------------- David Kitch Strategic Development Team ITS Design Systems - Texas Instruments Dallas, TX 214-480-1242 dkitch(a)ti.com ----------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Pucky, Todd M. [mailto:Puckyt@timken.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:49 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: NT file permissions lost on shares after logout I am a rookie on NetApp filers so this may be an easy one for some. I have an F840 filer with mapped NT 4 drives. I used ROBOCOPY.EXE to copy the data to the NetApp box so that file permissions would be maintained. I then went back to my NT box and mapped a drive to the NetApp box. Everything appeared to be fine. I then logged out of the NT box and logged in under a new user ID and all of the NT file permissions were lost. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to maintain these permissions when admins log out. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Todd M. Pucky The Timken Company Global Information Systems Programmer/Analyst 330.471.4583 puckyt(a)timken.com ********************************************************************** This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company **********************************************************************

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Exhange 5.5 - 2k
by Peter Gauthier 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

To All Toasters I'm trying to upgrade our exchange 5.5 to e2k. The problem seems to be the NetAppDrive. E2k upgrade is not able to detect the Netapp exchange drives and fails. Is there anybody who has completed a successful upgrade? I could use some help. Regards Peter

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NT file permissions lost on shares after logout
by Pucky, Todd M. 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

I am a rookie on NetApp filers so this may be an easy one for some. I have an F840 filer with mapped NT 4 drives. I used ROBOCOPY.EXE to copy the data to the NetApp box so that file permissions would be maintained. I then went back to my NT box and mapped a drive to the NetApp box. Everything appeared to be fine. I then logged out of the NT box and logged in under a new user ID and all of the NT file permissions were lost. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to maintain these permissions when admins log out. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Todd M. Pucky The Timken Company Global Information Systems Programmer/Analyst 330.471.4583 puckyt(a)timken.com ********************************************************************** This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company **********************************************************************

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RE: 6.2 ?
by Wurster, Richard M DSTI 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

We just did a conversion on two f760s (clustered), this weekend, adding a ds-14 shelf full of 72G drives while we were at it, as well as reconfiguring existing shelves and volumes. So far it works (for us) as advertised, including larger volume size. The only big surprise? The new volumes we created were initially reported as FAT!!!! My coworkers may have more to add. --Rick Wurster -----Original Message----- From: Frank Bonnet [mailto:bonnetf@bart.esiee.fr] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 4:37 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: 6.2 ? Hi I'm planning to upgrade our F85 to 6.2 we are running 6.1.1R2 for now. The filer is mostly used for NFS services but we are planning to progressively use also CIFS Do I have to expect "bad" surprises with 6.2 ? Does it carry significant progress for CIFS use ? Any infos welcome. Thanks a lot. -- Frank Bonnet

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RE: One more netbackup question...
by Coder, James (STP) 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

Another solution while waiting for netbackup and dar to come about- if you are using the filer in an nfs environment, you can nfs mount the directories / volumes. We've been doing this for the past 2 years and have good performance - we also run the backups over a separate backup lan running gig. The advantage is you don't have to dedicate the drives to the filer(s), you can break up the volumes to little more manageable sizes (use bpstart / bpend scripts - downside is you don't have the speed you get from ndmp. did some testing when we put our 760 into place 2 years ago and made the decision then to use nfs. also don't know if DAR will allow you to not dedicate drives to the filer(s). cheers - jc James C. Coder Sr. UNIX Administrator Guidant Corporation 4100 Hamline Avenue North St. Paul, MN 55112 Tel: 651-582-4797 Fax 651-582-4285 email: james.coder(a)guidant.com -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Manley [mailto:stephen@netapp.com] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:49 AM To: Surlow, Jim Cc: 'Alfred Lim'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: One more netbackup question... Most of what you say is correct, but Ontap 6.0 and greater supports DAR, due to NDMP allowing for cooperation between NDMP client and NDMP server. When you run the backup, the filer sends "file history" information to the NDMP client. This information allows the NDMP client (Legato, Veritas, WorkStation Solutions, ArcServe, etc) to create the index of files in the backup _and_ their location in the backup stream (byte offset). Meanwhile, the NDMP clients also track the amount of data written to each tape. So, when you do a DAR, the NDMP client tells the NDMP server (e.g. the filer) the list of files it wants restored and the offsets of those files. The filer and the NDMP client cooperate to load and position the tape to those offsets. At each offset, the filer will extract the data and restore the requested file. Which means: A) If you run an NDMP backup without file history (i.e. indexing) you can't run a direct access restore. B) To run a DAR, you need the functionality from the client and server. C) DAR is _possible_ using NDMP V2, V3, and V4 (all these versions support file history and the other commands necessary for DAR) D) Data Ontap 6.0 and greater supports DAR. Hopefully this helps, Stephen Manley Member of the NDMP version of the Osmond family On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Surlow, Jim wrote: > Even though Networker might support DAR, does OnTap? > > I did some research on this a while back (so my info may be dated), but my > understanding is this: > > The backup server initiates the NDMP command to the Filer (or other NDMP > device), the OS on that device then begins to send data to tape by using > means that it is aware of. In the case of OnTap, it uses the typical Unix > dump command. > > With dump/restore, there is no index created, thus, to recover, one has to > scan from the beginning of tape of the first tape in the dump set until the > data is found (on whatever tape). And the user waiting for the file will > likely hope that their file is closer to the first part of the first tape > rather than the last part of the last tape. > > Netbackup & Networker will have an index knowing which NDMP tape set that a > file is on, but I would guess that they would have no idea as to which tape > in the set it is - or where on that tape (set: being number of tapes for > that night's incremental, full, whatever). > > If I'm off base, please clarify. > > Thanks, > > Jim Surlow > CSG Systems > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alfred Lim [mailto:alfred@ptc.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:23 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: One more netbackup question... > > > Well one thing for Legato Networker, > it support NDMP V3 and have this DAR feature. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Jeff Kennedy" <jlkennedy(a)amcc.com> > To: Don.Hickey(a)alcatel.com > Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 08:56:46 -0800 > Subject: Re: One more netbackup question... > > > Get a new backup software? The problem is that some vendors do not > > support Direct Access Restore, meaning it will search through every tape > > starting at the first and scan the whole thing. If no DAR, you're > > basically bummed. > > > > Do you use snapshots? If you have the space it is a life-saver at > > times. > > > > ~JK > > > > Don.Hickey(a)alcatel.com wrote: > > > > > > I find restoring from a tape extraordinarly slowwwww. I have home > > > directories on a clustered pair of F840 running 6.1.1r2. I have > > > several volumes at about 300gb usable. When I need to restore a file > > > from a users directory it can take up to 6+ hours (DLT 8000). It > > > appears most of the time is taken searching for the files... is there > > > anything you can suggest (including any white papers) to speed up this > > > process? > > > > > > thanks again > > > > > > Don > > > > -- > > ===================== > > Jeff Kennedy > > Unix Administrator > > AMCC > > jlkennedy(a)amcc.com > >

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Using Cricket to Monitor Filers
by Ben Rockwood 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

Hello Toasterites, I've been playing (fighting with) Cricket on and off for awhile now. It strikes me as a tool that could be alot of help *if* you understand how it thinks. This is were I fall short. I've never gotten Cricket to work like it ought to, and it seems, IMHO, to be a poorly documented app. Most instructures and howto's simply tell you to "edit file blah and your done!". This just isn't enough juice for me. So, has anyone documented the setup of Cricket for the express purposes of monitoring various aspects of filers? The only "docs" I've found specific to filers were the comments in the netapp module for Cricket, which isn't much help. A complete "Howto Setup Cricket for NetApp Filers" would be really really helpful. It looks really easy, but I just can't seem to get my fingers around it. Any help/ideas? brockwood(a)homstead-inc.com

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Japanese Language Support
by Chuah, Nicholas 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

Hi, I have been requested to provide storage from the filer to a department running Japanese environment (Caelum application on HP-UX Japanese Locale). As far as I know, I need to create a separate volume and set the vol lang to ja. Is there anything else I need to be aware of before I go ahead? Your comments and experience would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Nic

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06 Apr '02

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