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RE: Licensing Question
by Darragh, Stephen J (CSC) (US SSA) 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hello, Why wouldn't you allow the software to move with the hardware even if its not the original owner? I am sure you have valid reasons and it would be nice if you could convey those to all these people who use your product. Thank you Stephen Darragh -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Warmenhoven, Dan Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:14 PM To: Kryder, Andy Cc: ScottUCE(a)aol.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com; voiperster(a)gmail.com; Roach, Steven Subject: RE: Licensing Question Hi Andy, As General Council, would you please ensure that none of our software licenses are transferable, and if any have been transferred illegally that the people responsible are dealt with in a appropriate manner. Thanks Dan _____ From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:02 PM To: Warmenhoven, Dan; Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Union Computer has been selling discounted and used NetApp systems and add-ons, including filers with transferable software licenses, for over ten years. Of the nearly 300 companies to whom we have sold NetApp hardware during this time, dozens have been purchasing used filers for which Network Appliance, Inc. is obligated to transfer the software licenses -- free of charge. Nonetheless, it is true that most NetApp filers' licenses cannot be transferred to new users; as such, many of these units will sit in our warehouse until they can be sold for parts, maintenance sparing, testing and backup. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:51:00 PM Central Daylight Time, Dan.Warmenhoven(a)netapp.com writes: None of NetApp's software licenses are transferable, and they never have been in my 14 years as CEO. Dan Dan Warmenhoven Chairman & CEO NetApp, Inc. 1-408-822-6600 Direct dan(a)netapp.com <mailto:dan@netapp.com> www.netapp.com <http://www.netapp.com/> _____ From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:29 PM To: Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Peter: Some used NetApp filers DO have transferable ONTAP licenses. We have been providing them for many years and would be happy to answer any questions you might have. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 9:27:37 AM Central Daylight Time, Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com writes: Peter, If all you wanted was access via FCP that is the only license you would need, a software subscription also would be needed so you can download the Data OnTap. A hardware subscription would not be a bad idea. Not sure how much the cost is, I would certainly have a conversation with your local NetApp Sales guy or a Channel Sales rep. On 4/20/08 10:33 PM, "Peter Rosenthal" <voiperster(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Steven, Is the FCP license all that is required or is there some sort of base license. Any ballpark figure on the license cost? Thanks. 2008/4/21 Roach, Steven <Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com>: Hey Peter, Resetting a password is very easy, During the boot hit Control + C to enter in to Special Menu and one of the options there will allow to you to reset the password. Licenses are a whole other story. Licenses do not transfer with Used equipment. If you buy a used FAS270 will have to buy an "FCP" license to access it over Fibre Channel. _____ From: Peter Rosenthal [ mailto:voiperster@gmail.com] <mailto:voiperster@gmail.com]> Sent: Sun 4/20/2008 6:36 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Licensing Question Hello, We are considering getting some used netapps equipment. I am mostly concerned with the pitfalls of licensing and would be grateful for any pointers. Specifically we are currently looking at a FAS270. We want to connect it via fibre channel to a FC switch and then two FC HBAs on different hosts. I do not want to end up with a door stop product and therefore I would like to know if: Will I have any problems resetting any existing passwords that might exist on the filer? Is the license required to access the filer via fibre channel optional or will any licensed filer support it? Thanks. NetApp Steve Roach Mobile (215)237-1660 Support (888)463-8277 _____ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> . _____ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> .

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Domain Controller Error
by Xishan 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hi all... Can someone please throw some light on this error message : Domain Controller error: NetLogon error 0xc0000022: - Filer's security information differs from domain controller Thanx in advance --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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FAS2000 Series
by Robert K. Borowicz 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Anybody have a 2000 series filer they care to comment on for me? (privately please) I'm considering my next purchase and these certainly fit a nice price point for me. I'm looking at quotes for a 2020 with 12 300 Gig SAS drives, a 2050 with 12 drives and a dual controller 2050 with 20 300 Gig SAS drives. TIA -Robert

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RE: Licensing Question
by Warmenhoven, Dan 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hi Andy, As General Council, would you please ensure that none of our software licenses are transferable, and if any have been transferred illegally that the people responsible are dealt with in a appropriate manner. Thanks Dan ________________________________ From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:02 PM To: Warmenhoven, Dan; Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Union Computer has been selling discounted and used NetApp systems and add-ons, including filers with transferable software licenses, for over ten years. Of the nearly 300 companies to whom we have sold NetApp hardware during this time, dozens have been purchasing used filers for which Network Appliance, Inc. is obligated to transfer the software licenses -- free of charge. Nonetheless, it is true that most NetApp filers' licenses cannot be transferred to new users; as such, many of these units will sit in our warehouse until they can be sold for parts, maintenance sparing, testing and backup. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:51:00 PM Central Daylight Time, Dan.Warmenhoven(a)netapp.com writes: None of NetApp's software licenses are transferable, and they never have been in my 14 years as CEO. Dan Dan Warmenhoven Chairman & CEO NetApp, Inc. 1-408-822-6600 Direct dan(a)netapp.com <mailto:dan@netapp.com> www.netapp.com <http://www.netapp.com/> ________________________________ From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:29 PM To: Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Peter: Some used NetApp filers DO have transferable ONTAP licenses. We have been providing them for many years and would be happy to answer any questions you might have. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 9:27:37 AM Central Daylight Time, Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com writes: Peter, If all you wanted was access via FCP that is the only license you would need, a software subscription also would be needed so you can download the Data OnTap. A hardware subscription would not be a bad idea. Not sure how much the cost is, I would certainly have a conversation with your local NetApp Sales guy or a Channel Sales rep. On 4/20/08 10:33 PM, "Peter Rosenthal" <voiperster(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Steven, Is the FCP license all that is required or is there some sort of base license. Any ballpark figure on the license cost? Thanks. 2008/4/21 Roach, Steven <Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com>: Hey Peter, Resetting a password is very easy, During the boot hit Control + C to enter in to Special Menu and one of the options there will allow to you to reset the password. Licenses are a whole other story. Licenses do not transfer with Used equipment. If you buy a used FAS270 will have to buy an "FCP" license to access it over Fibre Channel. ________________________________ From: Peter Rosenthal [ mailto:voiperster@gmail.com] <mailto:voiperster@gmail.com]> Sent: Sun 4/20/2008 6:36 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Licensing Question Hello, We are considering getting some used netapps equipment. I am mostly concerned with the pitfalls of licensing and would be grateful for any pointers. Specifically we are currently looking at a FAS270. We want to connect it via fibre channel to a FC switch and then two FC HBAs on different hosts. I do not want to end up with a door stop product and therefore I would like to know if: Will I have any problems resetting any existing passwords that might exist on the filer? Is the license required to access the filer via fibre channel optional or will any licensed filer support it? Thanks. NetApp Steve Roach Mobile (215)237-1660 Support (888)463-8277 ________________________________ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> . ________________________________ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> .

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Reseller who sells software licenses
by Peter Rosenthal 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Could anyone supply the contact details of a NetApp reseller who would be able to provide a quote for a software license to us? Thanks.

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RJ45 Serial
by Peter Rosenthal 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Hi Folks, RJ45 console serial pinouts look the same as cisco. Has anyone tried using a cisco serial cable on a filer with an RJ45 serial console? Thanks.

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RE: where to find man pages
by Josef Radinger 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Thanks for your answer, but i once managed to download the actual manpages for use with "man" on my linux-system. i dont seek the html-version, but the man-version. should have been clearer on that. josef On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 08:49 -0400, Parisi, Justin wrote: > http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel723/html/ontap/cmdref/ > index.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josef Radinger [mailto:josef.radinger@i-med.ac.at] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:14 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: where to find man pages > > hi, > > i seek now for around 3 hours in several places (i even looked at the > source of the html-pages na_admin.mm[l|i]) the link to download the > man-pages for ontap (7.2.3). > > can someone send me that link? > thanks > > ps.: those mml and mmi files look very interesting (and potential > dangerous). > -- > MfG > Josef Radinger > it-services > Medizinische Universitaet Innsbruck > -- MfG Josef Radinger it-services Medizinische Universitaet Innsbruck

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Balanced clusters?
by Peta Spies 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Hi, We normally build our clusters as per (what I believe is) best practice, with equal number of identical shelves on each loop. However, we've hit an emergency situation where a currently unused (and not in the aggr) shelf on one head would really really really be much more useful on the other, to grow a very full volume on there. Due to the nature of the problem, just presenting a new volume from this shelf is not a good enough fix; I need to grow the existing volume. Asap. So how bad of an idea would it be to wire that shelf into the other head? Will the cluster complain? The cluster in question is a 3040C, and we'll end up with 3 sata shelves on one head and 1 on the other. Peta

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Licensing Question
by Peter Rosenthal 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Hello, We are considering getting some used netapps equipment. I am mostly concerned with the pitfalls of licensing and would be grateful for any pointers. Specifically we are currently looking at a FAS270. We want to connect it via fibre channel to a FC switch and then two FC HBAs on different hosts. I do not want to end up with a door stop product and therefore I would like to know if: Will I have any problems resetting any existing passwords that might exist on the filer? Is the license required to access the filer via fibre channel optional or will any licensed filer support it? Thanks.

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RE: Balanced clusters?
by Webster, Stetson 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

The issue seems to be with removing the shelf from the current filer. We support hot 'adds,, but not hot 'removes.'. But there are other things to consider as well, such as the volume or aggregate association of the disks in the shelf you will remove and the resulting state of vol0 or the containing aggregate thereof. So if any disk belonging to vol0 or that aggregate are in that shelf, you need to do some swapping around during that outage where you will have to shutdown the existing head to remove the shelf and 'hot add' it to the other head. I would call the support center regardless to ensure no steps or caveats are missed as their resources and skills scale best for these procedures. Good luck .... Pardon brevity, typos, etc; sent from mobile. -----Original Message----- From: Peta Spies [mailto:peta.spies@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 03:44 AM Pacific Standard Time To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Balanced clusters? Hi, We normally build our clusters as per (what I believe is) best practice, with equal number of identical shelves on each loop. However, we've hit an emergency situation where a currently unused (and not in the aggr) shelf on one head would really really really be much more useful on the other, to grow a very full volume on there. Due to the nature of the problem, just presenting a new volume from this shelf is not a good enough fix; I need to grow the existing volume. Asap. So how bad of an idea would it be to wire that shelf into the other head? Will the cluster complain? The cluster in question is a 3040C, and we'll end up with 3 sata shelves on one head and 1 on the other. Peta

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