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mount.cifs; NetApp; owner/mode appearance
by David Lee 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

If this is an FAQ, feel free to point me in the right direction... Short-form: o UNIX-derived filesystem (qtree) on filer; o Linux client using "mount.cifs" to access qtree via CIFS; o File ownerships look wrong; mode always shows as 777. Detail: We run a central fileserver on behalf of many users. A particular new qtree is a fresh copy of a filesystem (on which many users each have their own, self-owned subdirectory). It was previously hosted on UNIX, and is still intended to be used solely in a UNIX context. But we (service providers) don't own the Linux machines which will be connecting to this, therefore we are not exporting it as NFS (host-based security) as this would compromise security. (User-A on their Linux box could 'su' to root and then 'su' again to User-B and see User-B files... this would be bad.) So we are trying to set things up so that the users can use CIFS (which is user-based security). So we have set the qtree mixed mode and made it a CIFS share on the filer. So far, so good. Overall: UNIX users on UNIX clients to UNIX-filesystems on filer, but having to use CIFS rather than NFS as the protocol. When a user on their Linux client does: /sbin/mount.cifs //filer/qtree /local/mountpoint what they see is that all file ownerships are apparently their own (even though this level shows the directory of self-owned subdirectories) and that all permissions appear as 777 (rwxrwxrwx). The actual workings seem to be OK, but the appearance is less than desirable. Presumably this is because the SMB/CIFS protocol cannot carry the UNIX permissions and ownerships. 1. Is the above reasoning towards understanding the problem more or less correct? 2. Is there any way around it? I understand that more recent definitions of CIFS have UNIX extensions. Is this implemented in ONTAP? Our versions: filer: "NetApp Release 7.2.2" mount.cifs: 1.10 Apologies if the question is poorly expressed! -- : David Lee I.T. Service : : Senior Systems Programmer Computer Centre : : UNIX Team Leader Durham University : : South Road : : http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.d.lee/ Durham DH1 3LE : : Phone: +44 191 334 2752 U.K. :

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HP integration with IBM
by Xishan 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

Hello all... I need some good guidance...I am having two problems...we are having two domains...the older domain is over HP servers (windows based)....and the newer doamin over SUN servers (Solaris based)... 1. Im trying to integrate an HP DL380 Storage server NAS active-passive cluster (from the older domain) with IBM N3600 ontap (new domain). Im quite familiar with ontap...but not much idea of HP storage servers. Can anyone guide me (step-by-step) or some good refrence website. May i mention that, as obvious, the HP NAS is registered with a seperate doamin controller...and IBM with a seperate domain controller...so what do i need to do??? 2. The second problem is somewhat related to the first. We have an HP MSL6000 backup library, which is being managed by 'Data Protector Manager'. Currently it is taking backups of the above mentioned HP domain. How can i add a Sun V490 server (running Solaris 10) as a client and then schedule backup. Thanx in advance... --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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Free hardcopies no longer available via now?
by Nicholas Bernstein 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

So I just went to: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/ontap_index.shtml And, if memory serves, the right had column should be "Quantity", which would then allow for new hard copies of the various books to be sent out. This no longer seems to be the case -- did this go away with the site rebranding update? -Nick -- Nicholas Bernstein Technologist, Consultant, Instructor http://nicholasbernstein.com

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moving data from R200 to FAS2050
by Hisham H. Sanad 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

I have 9TB " CIFS and NFS data " in R200 , I want move this data to the new system FAS2050. What the best way to move this data.? Can I connect the two systems together thru fiber ? ,how can I achieve that, Best Regards Hisham Sanad cid:image001.jpg@01C7E3E9.837C6040

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Re: Licensing Question
by Michael Anderson 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

I would take it even farther to this level, Why can't we transfer the licenses that we paid for and have maintained on support to a replacement filer when we retire an asset???? Well other than the obvious. This is my biggest hang up. It is very frustrating that I have to chuck hundreds of thousands of dollars in SnapMirror, SnapRestore, CIFS and NFS licenses because NetApp decided that my platform will not be supported anymore. ----- Original Message ---- From: "Darragh, Stephen J (CSC) (US SSA)" <stephen.j.darragh(a)baesystems.com> To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:54:49 AM Subject: RE: Licensing Question Hello, Why wouldn't you allow the software to move with the hardware even if its not the original owner? I am sure you have valid reasons and it would be nice if you could convey those to all these people who use your product. Thank you Stephen Darragh -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Warmenhoven, Dan Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:14 PM To: Kryder, Andy Cc: ScottUCE(a)aol.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com; voiperster(a)gmail.com; Roach, Steven Subject: RE: Licensing Question Hi Andy, As General Council, would you please ensure that none of our software licenses are transferable, and if any have been transferred illegally that the people responsible are dealt with in a appropriate manner. Thanks Dan From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:02 PM To: Warmenhoven, Dan; Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Union Computer has been selling discounted and used NetApp systems and add-ons, including filers with transferable software licenses, for over ten years. Of the nearly 300 companies to whom we have sold NetApp hardware during this time, dozens have been purchasing used filers for which Network Appliance, Inc. is obligated to transfer the software licenses -- free of charge. Nonetheless, it is true that most NetApp filers’ licenses cannot be transferred to new users; as such, many of these units will sit in our warehouse until they can be sold for parts, maintenance sparing, testing and backup. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:51:00 PM Central Daylight Time, Dan.Warmenhoven(a)netapp.com writes: None of NetApp's software licenses are transferable, and they never have been in my 14 years as CEO. Dan Dan Warmenhoven Chairman & CEO NetApp, Inc. 1-408-822-6600 Direct dan(a)netapp.com www.netapp.com From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:29 PM To: Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Peter: Some used NetApp filers DO have transferable ONTAP licenses. We have been providing them for many years and would be happy to answer any questions you might have. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 9:27:37 AM Central Daylight Time, Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com writes: Peter, If all you wanted was access via FCP that is the only license you would need, a software subscription also would be needed so you can download the Data OnTap. A hardware subscription would not be a bad idea. Not sure how much the cost is, I would certainly have a conversation with your local NetApp Sales guy or a Channel Sales rep. On 4/20/08 10:33 PM, "Peter Rosenthal" <voiperster(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Steven, Is the FCP license all that is required or is there some sort of base license. Any ballpark figure on the license cost? Thanks. 2008/4/21 Roach, Steven <Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com>: Hey Peter, Resetting a password is very easy, During the boot hit Control + C to enter in to Special Menu and one of the options there will allow to you to reset the password. Licenses are a whole other story. Licenses do not transfer with Used equipment. If you buy a used FAS270 will have to buy an "FCP" license to access it over Fibre Channel. From: Peter Rosenthal [mailto:voiperster@gmail.com] Sent: Sun 4/20/2008 6:36 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Licensing Question Hello, We are considering getting some used netapps equipment. I am mostly concerned with the pitfalls of licensing and would be grateful for any pointers. Specifically we are currently looking at a FAS270. We want to connect it via fibre channel to a FC switch and then two FC HBAs on different hosts. I do not want to end up with a door stop product and therefore I would like to know if: Will I have any problems resetting any existing passwords that might exist on the filer? Is the license required to access the filer via fibre channel optional or will any licensed filer support it? Thanks. NetApp Steve Roach Mobile (215)237-1660 Support (888)463-8277 Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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Re: Licensing Question
by ScottUCE＠aol.com 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Peter: Some used NetApp filers DO have transferable ONTAP licenses. We have been providing them for many years and would be happy to answer any questions you might have. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 _scott(a)unioncomputer.com_ (mailto:scott@unioncomputer.com) 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 9:27:37 AM Central Daylight Time, Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com writes: Peter, If all you wanted was access via FCP that is the only license you would need, a software subscription also would be needed so you can download the Data OnTap. A hardware subscription would not be a bad idea. Not sure how much the cost is, I would certainly have a conversation with your local NetApp Sales guy or a Channel Sales rep. On 4/20/08 10:33 PM, "Peter Rosenthal" <voiperster(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Steven, Is the FCP license all that is required or is there some sort of base license. Any ballpark figure on the license cost? Thanks. 2008/4/21 Roach, Steven <Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com>: Hey Peter, Resetting a password is very easy, During the boot hit Control + C to enter in to Special Menu and one of the options there will allow to you to reset the password. Licenses are a whole other story. Licenses do not transfer with Used equipment. If you buy a used FAS270 will have to buy an "FCP" license to access it over Fibre Channel. ____________________________________ From: Peter Rosenthal [_mailto:voiperster@gmail.com]_ (mailto:voiperster@gmail.com]) Sent: Sun 4/20/2008 6:36 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Licensing Question Hello, We are considering getting some used netapps equipment. I am mostly concerned with the pitfalls of licensing and would be grateful for any pointers. Specifically we are currently looking at a FAS270. We want to connect it via fibre channel to a FC switch and then two FC HBAs on different hosts. I do not want to end up with a door stop product and therefore I would like to know if: Will I have any problems resetting any existing passwords that might exist on the filer? Is the license required to access the filer via fibre channel optional or will any licensed filer support it? Thanks. NetApp Steve Roach Mobile (215)237-1660 Support (888)463-8277 **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

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RE: Licensing Question
by Darragh, Stephen J (CSC) (US SSA) 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hello, Why wouldn't you allow the software to move with the hardware even if its not the original owner? I am sure you have valid reasons and it would be nice if you could convey those to all these people who use your product. Thank you Stephen Darragh -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Warmenhoven, Dan Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:14 PM To: Kryder, Andy Cc: ScottUCE(a)aol.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com; voiperster(a)gmail.com; Roach, Steven Subject: RE: Licensing Question Hi Andy, As General Council, would you please ensure that none of our software licenses are transferable, and if any have been transferred illegally that the people responsible are dealt with in a appropriate manner. Thanks Dan _____ From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:02 PM To: Warmenhoven, Dan; Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Union Computer has been selling discounted and used NetApp systems and add-ons, including filers with transferable software licenses, for over ten years. Of the nearly 300 companies to whom we have sold NetApp hardware during this time, dozens have been purchasing used filers for which Network Appliance, Inc. is obligated to transfer the software licenses -- free of charge. Nonetheless, it is true that most NetApp filers' licenses cannot be transferred to new users; as such, many of these units will sit in our warehouse until they can be sold for parts, maintenance sparing, testing and backup. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:51:00 PM Central Daylight Time, Dan.Warmenhoven(a)netapp.com writes: None of NetApp's software licenses are transferable, and they never have been in my 14 years as CEO. Dan Dan Warmenhoven Chairman & CEO NetApp, Inc. 1-408-822-6600 Direct dan(a)netapp.com <mailto:dan@netapp.com> www.netapp.com <http://www.netapp.com/> _____ From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:29 PM To: Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Peter: Some used NetApp filers DO have transferable ONTAP licenses. We have been providing them for many years and would be happy to answer any questions you might have. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 9:27:37 AM Central Daylight Time, Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com writes: Peter, If all you wanted was access via FCP that is the only license you would need, a software subscription also would be needed so you can download the Data OnTap. A hardware subscription would not be a bad idea. Not sure how much the cost is, I would certainly have a conversation with your local NetApp Sales guy or a Channel Sales rep. On 4/20/08 10:33 PM, "Peter Rosenthal" <voiperster(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Steven, Is the FCP license all that is required or is there some sort of base license. Any ballpark figure on the license cost? Thanks. 2008/4/21 Roach, Steven <Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com>: Hey Peter, Resetting a password is very easy, During the boot hit Control + C to enter in to Special Menu and one of the options there will allow to you to reset the password. Licenses are a whole other story. Licenses do not transfer with Used equipment. If you buy a used FAS270 will have to buy an "FCP" license to access it over Fibre Channel. _____ From: Peter Rosenthal [ mailto:voiperster@gmail.com] <mailto:voiperster@gmail.com]> Sent: Sun 4/20/2008 6:36 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Licensing Question Hello, We are considering getting some used netapps equipment. I am mostly concerned with the pitfalls of licensing and would be grateful for any pointers. Specifically we are currently looking at a FAS270. We want to connect it via fibre channel to a FC switch and then two FC HBAs on different hosts. I do not want to end up with a door stop product and therefore I would like to know if: Will I have any problems resetting any existing passwords that might exist on the filer? Is the license required to access the filer via fibre channel optional or will any licensed filer support it? Thanks. NetApp Steve Roach Mobile (215)237-1660 Support (888)463-8277 _____ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> . _____ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> .

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Domain Controller Error
by Xishan 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hi all... Can someone please throw some light on this error message : Domain Controller error: NetLogon error 0xc0000022: - Filer's security information differs from domain controller Thanx in advance --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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FAS2000 Series
by Robert K. Borowicz 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Anybody have a 2000 series filer they care to comment on for me? (privately please) I'm considering my next purchase and these certainly fit a nice price point for me. I'm looking at quotes for a 2020 with 12 300 Gig SAS drives, a 2050 with 12 drives and a dual controller 2050 with 20 300 Gig SAS drives. TIA -Robert

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RE: Licensing Question
by Warmenhoven, Dan 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hi Andy, As General Council, would you please ensure that none of our software licenses are transferable, and if any have been transferred illegally that the people responsible are dealt with in a appropriate manner. Thanks Dan ________________________________ From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:02 PM To: Warmenhoven, Dan; Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Union Computer has been selling discounted and used NetApp systems and add-ons, including filers with transferable software licenses, for over ten years. Of the nearly 300 companies to whom we have sold NetApp hardware during this time, dozens have been purchasing used filers for which Network Appliance, Inc. is obligated to transfer the software licenses -- free of charge. Nonetheless, it is true that most NetApp filers' licenses cannot be transferred to new users; as such, many of these units will sit in our warehouse until they can be sold for parts, maintenance sparing, testing and backup. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:51:00 PM Central Daylight Time, Dan.Warmenhoven(a)netapp.com writes: None of NetApp's software licenses are transferable, and they never have been in my 14 years as CEO. Dan Dan Warmenhoven Chairman & CEO NetApp, Inc. 1-408-822-6600 Direct dan(a)netapp.com <mailto:dan@netapp.com> www.netapp.com <http://www.netapp.com/> ________________________________ From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:29 PM To: Roach, Steven; voiperster(a)gmail.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Licensing Question Peter: Some used NetApp filers DO have transferable ONTAP licenses. We have been providing them for many years and would be happy to answer any questions you might have. Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 7600 West 27th Street Building B1 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55426 scott(a)unioncomputer.com 952.935.7282 - Office 952.240.6835 - Mobile (urgent calls only) "Helping our customers make each dollar go further - since 1991!" In a message dated 4/21/2008 9:27:37 AM Central Daylight Time, Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com writes: Peter, If all you wanted was access via FCP that is the only license you would need, a software subscription also would be needed so you can download the Data OnTap. A hardware subscription would not be a bad idea. Not sure how much the cost is, I would certainly have a conversation with your local NetApp Sales guy or a Channel Sales rep. On 4/20/08 10:33 PM, "Peter Rosenthal" <voiperster(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Steven, Is the FCP license all that is required or is there some sort of base license. Any ballpark figure on the license cost? Thanks. 2008/4/21 Roach, Steven <Steven.Roach(a)netapp.com>: Hey Peter, Resetting a password is very easy, During the boot hit Control + C to enter in to Special Menu and one of the options there will allow to you to reset the password. Licenses are a whole other story. Licenses do not transfer with Used equipment. If you buy a used FAS270 will have to buy an "FCP" license to access it over Fibre Channel. ________________________________ From: Peter Rosenthal [ mailto:voiperster@gmail.com] <mailto:voiperster@gmail.com]> Sent: Sun 4/20/2008 6:36 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Licensing Question Hello, We are considering getting some used netapps equipment. I am mostly concerned with the pitfalls of licensing and would be grateful for any pointers. Specifically we are currently looking at a FAS270. We want to connect it via fibre channel to a FC switch and then two FC HBAs on different hosts. I do not want to end up with a door stop product and therefore I would like to know if: Will I have any problems resetting any existing passwords that might exist on the filer? Is the license required to access the filer via fibre channel optional or will any licensed filer support it? Thanks. NetApp Steve Roach Mobile (215)237-1660 Support (888)463-8277 ________________________________ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> . ________________________________ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> .

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