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F840 Release date
by David Midgett 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Does anyone know what the planned release date of the F840 filer is? Also when will a Recommended release of Ontap 6.0 be out for the F760? It will be nice to get the additional filesystem capacity. David Midgett Manager, Server Operations About The Human Internet http://www.About.com

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Re: (offtopic) Solaris & Jukeboxes
by Darrell Fuhriman 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Jay Orr <orrjl(a)stl.nexen.com> writes: > Anyone know where I can find software to contol Overland Data jukeboxes > that runs on Solaris (that's free)? If it's a generic SCSI robot, do a search for 'mtx' -- that should do what you need. I can send a copy if you need it. Darrell

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RE: Removing disks from a volume
by Datta, Diptish 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

I have filed an RFE for this request. I agree - this would be a simple and a good enhancement. -diptish -----Original Message----- From: Mike Sphar [mailto:mikey@remedy.com] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:42 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Removing disks from a volume I agree, I think this is a really good idea for an enhancement request. Especially useful for inexperienced admins (or those muddle-headed from their 4th 18-hour day this week). -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Services, BOFH, GWP, MCP, MCP+I, MCSE, BFD -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Krueger [mailto:jkrueger@qualcomm.com] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:37 AM To: Brian Tao Cc: Mike Sphar; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Removing disks from a volume On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 11:12:14AM -0400, Brian Tao wrote: > > Indeed... recovery could be costly and/or awkward. Perhaps Netapp > would consider a "safety feature" enhancement for "vol add/create" > command where by default it will not allow a situation in which a > volume/raidgroup is left with no hot spares. Add a "-f" switch (or > whatever) to force an override. Warm fuzzy feature. :) This is a great idea. And should be only a couple line of intern-level code to implement too. -- Jeff -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Krueger E-Mail: jeff(a)qualcomm.com Senior Engineer Phone: 858-651-6709 NetApp Filers / UNIX Infrastructure Fax: 858-651-6627 QUALCOMM, Inc. IT Engineering Web: www.qualcomm.com

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(offtopic) Solaris & Jukeboxes
by Jay Orr 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Anyone know where I can find software to contol Overland Data jukeboxes that runs on Solaris (that's free)? Thanks! ----------- Jay Orr Systems Administrator Fujitsu Nexion Inc. St. Louis, MO

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RE: Removing disks from a volume
by Mike Sphar 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

It's worth taking a look at the trend in space utilization though, because it's entirely possible that at their current rate they may need to buy a new shelf X months down the road anyway, and if so it may be more cost-effective to just buy it now and save the headache and downtime involved with shrinking the existing volume. I find with our filers that I can pretty much plot out on a graph when a new shelf is needed, and it's usually less than a year. Of course, the moral of this story is: Be careful when you add disks to volumes. -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Services, BOFH, GWP, MCP, MCP+I, MCSE, BFD -----Original Message----- From: Brian Tao [mailto:taob@risc.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:14 PM To: Bruce Sterling Woodcock Cc: Aaron Sherman; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Removing disks from a volume On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Bruce Sterling Woodcock wrote: > > Is the time worth the cost of another disk? I doubt it. ... plus a whole new disk shelf (and the space and power required) if he runs with full shelves with one spare, the way I suspect most people do. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"

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I.T. SERVICE ANNOUNCMENT for Sat., Aug. 26th, 2000
by Murray, Brian 26 Aug '00

26 Aug '00

When: Saturday, August 26, 2000 at 4:00 PM PDT for 2.5 HOURS What: Migrate Internet network segments at Sunnyvale site Why: To complete the migration from Vendor X to Vendor Y network equip., the network segments that lead to the Internet must be migrated from the Vendor X switch to our existing Vendor Y network. Impact: The following web sites will be "off the air": * NOW web site * E-Market web site Other Internet services interrupted: * E-mail delivery * Chat

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Re: Removing disks from a volume
by mds＠gbnet.net 24 Aug '00

24 Aug '00

The real secret to this is re-laying out the filesystem data and altering and relaying out the metadata, which is why AFAIK, only VxFS can do this at the moment - it's perceived to be both hard and uncommon (despite all sysadmin's experiences to the contrary, and the manifest existence of fs-reorganisers) so most fs authors don't bother. Shrinking volumes, by comparison, is just moving a fencepost. It's what they contain that needs the work. -- -Mark ... an Englishman in New York ...

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Backup Questions
by Jay Orr 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

Hi all! So, we're evaluating backup software to replace Budtool. When we used budtool, it used Netapp's Dump to backup the files, not NDMP. Now, I don't claim to have all the ins-and-outs down on NDMP, but here's what I understand. NDMP does a sorta flow-control in one stream and dumps in another (or something like that). My particular questions: 1) Do all implementations of NDMP backup/restore at best only allow choosing directories and NOT files for restore/backup? 2) Does netapp's Dump work such that you can choose to backup/restore particular files? 3) How does netapp's Dump differ from the dump in the NDMP? It's all kinda fuzzy for me.... ----------- Jay Orr Systems Administrator Fujitsu Nexion Inc. St. Louis, MO

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netapp console to terminal server?
by Lyons, Jim 22 Aug '00

22 Aug '00

We are trying to attach our netapp db9 console ports to a cisco as2509-rj async rj45 lines, but are having no luck. The cisco h/w configuration documentation has a diagram for the db9 to rj45 pinout, but it does not work. Has anyone done this? Thanks, Jim

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Re: Removing disks from a volume
by Rick Hulsey 22 Aug '00

22 Aug '00

You've probably already thought about this, but could you just steal a spare from the other filer, or buy another disk to use as a spare? If the spare disk was your last spare in the filer and you can't buy or steal another spare or it forces you to another shelf, then it's worth going through this process. Otherwise you may want to just not mess with it. If you do have to deal with the problem by copying and recreating the volume, it seems like you ought to be able to get that downtime window to be smaller if you use snapmirror to mirror your problem volume to the new volume in the other filer. This at least cuts down on the time it takes to do the first copy. >>> Aaron Sherman <ajs(a)ajs.com> 08/21/00 10:46PM >>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 10:23:13PM +0100, Mark Simmons wrote: > The real secret to this is re-laying out the filesystem data and altering > and relaying out the metadata, which is why AFAIK, only VxFS can do this > at the moment - it's perceived to be both hard and uncommon (despite > all sysadmin's experiences to the contrary, and the manifest existence > of fs-reorganisers) so most fs authors don't bother. Just in case a) this is what's being thought and b) there's anyone from NetApp listening: THIS WOULD NOT JUST BE A COOL FEATURE... IT WOULD SAVE ME DAYS OF EFFORT. You see, our database is on that volume, so we have to schedule database downtime, copy the data to a second filer (lucky we have one, or this'd be to tape!) and then back. It's probably going to be 1-3 hour process which will suck up our downtime window for a whole week! -- Aaron Sherman Systems Architect HighWired.com -- The global high school community http://www.highwired.com 300 North Beacon Street Watertown, MA 02472 (617) 926-1850 x238 (617) 926-1861 fax asherman(a)highwired-inc.com / ICQ#43677395 / Y!ajstrader "We had some good machines, but they don't work no more." -"Faded Flowers" / Shriekback

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