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RE: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply
by Clarke, John L. (CIS) 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Tim, No, we are not doing NFS backups. We have an NT box as a trusted host and the NetApp disks appear as shares on that NT box (which is also the NT server with the tape drives attached. This is the same model as for Unix. Now, when I do the backups, I am essentially backing up an NT box, so all ACL's are preserved. The only problem is that Omniback seems to skip about 25% of the data, with no error messages or anything. Using the regular Backup software that comes with NT works fine. Seen anything like this? Thanks John -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Cook [mailto:TCOOK@JOY.COM] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 7:39 AM To: John_Clarke(a)bose.com Subject: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply I assume you are doing NFS backups, as at present OBII doesn't support NDMP. NFS backups WILL NOT preserve ACL's. We have the same problem and the only solution my research has come up with is to switch to an NDMP capable backup software and connect the tape library straight to the filer. >>> "Clarke, John L. (CIS)" <John_Clarke(a)bose.com> 09/12/00 01:57pm >>> > Hello, > > I am looking for anyone who is using Omniback II to back up a Network > Appliance via CIFS. We have an F740 mounted on the tape backup server as > shared disks and we are finding that Omniback does not want to back up all > the directories on the filer. > > Has anyone done this successfully? > > Thanks > John

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RE: Backup software comparison
by Francett, Robert D (SAIC) 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

No (sorry), but would be interested in why Veritas NetBackup isn't on your list. Thanks, Bob Francett/BP Exploration -----Original Message----- From: Leigh David Heyman [mailto:leigh@ai.mit.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 8:05 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Backup software comparison Hello, We are currently testing automated backup software products, for backup up our servers and NetApp filers via NDMP. We've narrowed our seach down to two products: Quick Restore from Workstation Solutions, and Backup Express from Syncsort. I'm wondering if anyone on this list has experience with either or both of these products and if so, would you care to share your opinions or experiences with them? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Leigh ===================================================================== Leigh Heyman, GCIA Artificial Intelligence Lab Systems Administrator Massachusetts Institute of Technology leigh(a)ai.mit.edu 617-253-1729

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Re: Crappy message on Veritas Netbackup
by Steve Kappel 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

>I am in a processes of configuring veritas Netbackup on NetApps Filers >(840's) and unable to do that. The problem is that Netbackup doesn't allow >me to start two jobs at a time. If it schedules on job, the other job stays >queued and waits for the earlier job to finish. Can anybody suggest a >solution. > >Veritas Netbackup ver 3.2 with patch and NDMP pack. Are these jobs for the same filer? If so, I'd suggest reading the manual - configuration setting "Maximum Jobs per Client". __________________________________________________________________________ Steve Kappel steve.kappel(a)veritas.com VERITAS Software steve.kappel(a)iname.com (Personal)

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RE: NOW enhancement
by La Londe, Renee 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Hi There, Thanks for the suggestion. We can definately display the action information (though this can be quite alot of info for some cases). Question: Would you be interested in just seeing the *last* action that was completed before the case was closed or the whole case action history? Best Regards, Renee E-Service Web Manager Get Answers on NOW (Netapp on the Web)! http://now.netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: Nail, Larry [mailto:lnail@ti.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:13 AM To: Subject: RE: NOW enhancement I second this suggestion.. -----Original Message----- From: Todd C. Merrill [mailto:tmerrill@mathworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:44 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: NOW enhancement When I get email notification of a change in status of a support call, it looks something like: CASE #: xxxxxx.00000 SERIAL #: yyyyy Site: "mathworks" City: Natick Status: Closed Symptom: "CPU ECC ERROR; SYS ECC ERROR; DIMM=J27" Internal action associated with the case has been completed Actions due to be performed: --------------------------------------- Action: RMA Status: OPEN Due Date: Jul 6 2000 For further information, please view your case at "http://now.netapp.com/Self-Service/Forms/frmCaseView.asp?CaseId=xxxxxx.0000 0" If you reply to this mail please do not change the Subject line. Is it possible to include in this email the *changes* to the case? It is an annoyance to go to a web browser, login to the NOW site, and check. Seems like just enclosing the changed actions would be straightforward, and I can decide if I need to login to NOW to add comments or not. Thanks for listening. Until next time... The Mathworks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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Crappy message on Veritas Netbackup
by Premanshu Jain 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Toasterians, I am in a processes of configuring veritas Netbackup on NetApps Filers (840's) and unable to do that. The problem is that Netbackup doesn't allow me to start two jobs at a time. If it schedules on job, the other job stays queued and waits for the earlier job to finish. Can anybody suggest a solution. Veritas Netbackup ver 3.2 with patch and NDMP pack. Premanshu Jain IS Engineering Support Lead Nortel Networks, Carrier Packet Solutions IP Services Division 2305, Mission College Blvd, Santa Clara, CA 95054 Direct: (408) 565-3573 ESN: 655-3573 eMail: prjain(a)shastanets.com Web: http://www.nortelnetworks.com/ipservices

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RE: SNMP counter - integer overflow?
by Hackworth, Brian 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

: Of course: I don't see this as the "perfect" solution. I : would love if : netapp would do a fix for this. (if one is possible?) ONTAP 6.0 addresses this problem by (a) storing NFS operation counts internally in 64-bit containers (b) adding two new variables (of type Counter, rather than the incorrect INTEGER type) to report the low-order 32 bits and the high-order 32 bits. See miscHighNfsOps and miscLowNfsOps in version 1.4 of the netapp.mib. SNMP client software is normally prepared for Counter variables to wrap around. Client software that really cares how many times the counter has wrapped around can figure that out from the miscHighNfsOps. - Brian -- Brian Hackworth hackwort(a)netapp.com Network Appliance 408.822.6654 Sunnyvale, CA USA

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Backup software comparison
by Leigh David Heyman 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Hello, We are currently testing automated backup software products, for backup up our servers and NetApp filers via NDMP. We've narrowed our seach down to two products: Quick Restore from Workstation Solutions, and Backup Express from Syncsort. I'm wondering if anyone on this list has experience with either or both of these products and if so, would you care to share your opinions or experiences with them? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Leigh ===================================================================== Leigh Heyman, GCIA Artificial Intelligence Lab Systems Administrator Massachusetts Institute of Technology leigh(a)ai.mit.edu 617-253-1729

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NOW enhancement
by Todd C. Merrill 13 Sep '00

13 Sep '00

When I get email notification of a change in status of a support call, it looks something like: CASE #: xxxxxx.00000 SERIAL #: yyyyy Site: "mathworks" City: Natick Status: Closed Symptom: "CPU ECC ERROR; SYS ECC ERROR; DIMM=J27" Internal action associated with the case has been completed Actions due to be performed: --------------------------------------- Action: RMA Status: OPEN Due Date: Jul 6 2000 For further information, please view your case at "http://now.netapp.com/Self-Service/Forms/frmCaseView.asp?CaseId=xxxxxx.00000" If you reply to this mail please do not change the Subject line. Is it possible to include in this email the *changes* to the case? It is an annoyance to go to a web browser, login to the NOW site, and check. Seems like just enclosing the changed actions would be straightforward, and I can decide if I need to login to NOW to add comments or not. Thanks for listening. Until next time... The Mathworks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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RE: 2 volumes or 1
by Mohler, Anissa 13 Sep '00

13 Sep '00

Bruce is right... the quote as outlined in the e-mail below is incorrect. The exact quote from the Advanced Administration and Troubleshooting "202" Student Guide Dated April 2000 (Page 8 of the performance tuning section) is: "There is an approximate 10% decrease in write performance when the filer attempts to write to a RAID group spanning two adapters. This is due to inherent limitations in the PCI bus." Page 41 of the Performance Tuning Section does not specifically say WRITE performance but page 47 does. I'm sure this issue will be addressed in the next version of the course. Please note... the statement above may no longer apply to the F840 filer (or later filers) or later releases of Data ONTAP. That statement addresses a specific limitation of the PCI bus on Pre-F800 series filers. As always .... YMMV. -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Sterling Woodcock [mailto:sirbruce@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 4:14 PM To: Todd C. Merrill; Chris Lamb Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: 2 volumes or 1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd C. Merrill" <tmerrill(a)mathworks.com> To: "Chris Lamb" <skeezics(a)measurecast.com> Cc: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 10:09 AM Subject: Re: 2 volumes or 1 > On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Bruce Sterling Woodcock wrote: > > > From: "Chris Lamb" <skeezics(a)measurecast.com> > > > But to turn this thread on a slight tangent, I was curious about the > > > performance advantages of spreading drives within a RAID group across > > > multiple controllers. > [...] > > > interested too. :-) Given that More Disks Is Bettah, the question becomes > > > whether or not it's worth the trouble (on a filer) to try to optimize the > > > physical placement of those drives. > > > > Worth the trouble? No. > > Worth the trouble? Yes IMHO. The NetApp 202 class notes state: > > "A RAID group that spans two different controllers shows a 10% > performance degradation." We've been over this before. This note, as written, is grossly false. The penalty is only on writes, and only noticeable if you're already saturating your NVRAM such that you are writing all the time. There is no constant 10% performance penalty. Bruce

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RE: NOW enhancement
by Nail, Larry 13 Sep '00

13 Sep '00

I second this suggestion.. -----Original Message----- From: Todd C. Merrill [mailto:tmerrill@mathworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:44 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: NOW enhancement When I get email notification of a change in status of a support call, it looks something like: CASE #: xxxxxx.00000 SERIAL #: yyyyy Site: "mathworks" City: Natick Status: Closed Symptom: "CPU ECC ERROR; SYS ECC ERROR; DIMM=J27" Internal action associated with the case has been completed Actions due to be performed: --------------------------------------- Action: RMA Status: OPEN Due Date: Jul 6 2000 For further information, please view your case at "http://now.netapp.com/Self-Service/Forms/frmCaseView.asp?CaseId=xxxxxx.0000 0" If you reply to this mail please do not change the Subject line. Is it possible to include in this email the *changes* to the case? It is an annoyance to go to a web browser, login to the NOW site, and check. Seems like just enclosing the changed actions would be straightforward, and I can decide if I need to login to NOW to add comments or not. Thanks for listening. Until next time... The Mathworks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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