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RE: After branching ONTAP/VB can you ...
by Yee, Steven 15 Sep '00

15 Sep '00

everything is correct (the same) EXCEPT ... can you sync to the current change 78761 (that was our last checkin on filerview/main) thanks, steve. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ghouse, Mujtaba > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:05 PM > To: Yee, Steven > Cc: Klinkner, Steve; Thompson, Tim > Subject: RE: After branching ONTAP/VB can you ... > > Before I branch the new filerview, could you confirm (or deny): > > the name of the codeline: filerview:Rvb > the owner of the codeline: sdy > is this codeline frozen or open? [open] > the parent branch: [filerview:main] > change level or time at which you wish the branch to be sync'd: same as Rvb ? > > thanks, > > -Mujtaba > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yee, Steven > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 9:40 AM > To: Ghouse, Mujtaba > Cc: Yee, Steven; Klinkner, Steve; Thompson, Tim > Subject: After branching ONTAP/VB can you ... > > also branch the filerview tree for VB too ?? > > thanks, > > steve. >

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RE: Network boot capavility in NetApp firmware
by Bokkelkamp Ernst SBS IP 17 M 1 15 Sep '00

15 Sep '00

http://www.nts.com See Shadow IPserver, it's also (another type of) appliance in the OpenServer version. Bye Ernie > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Sterling Woodcock [SMTP:sirbruce@ix.netcom.com] > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 2:12 PM > To: chris_good(a)webtop.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: Network boot capavility in NetApp firmware > > > I understood and agree with the original RFE but doing it > > both ways round would be extremely neat and elegant. A cluster > > could even do resiliant dhcpd which is a pain to do conventionally[*]. > > I think if you want a DHCPD server you need another appliance. :) > Something to do all your naming services too... > > Bruce >

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RE: Network boot capability in NetApp firmware
by Mohler, Anissa 15 Sep '00

15 Sep '00

Jeff, There is an existing RFE for this capability - the RFE # is 20166. The description is not yet available on the NOW site... you can track this RFE using BugWatcher. For those that are not familiar with BugWatcher: Go to the NOW site http://now.netapp.com/ Click on Knowledge Center Click on Access Software Bug Tools Click on Bug Finder and put in the id 20166 Then at the bottom of the next page you will be able to select BugWatcher You will be notified when the bug is fixed (or if the RFE is completed) by e-mail. I've added your description to the RFE as well... Thank you! :-----Original Message----- :From: Jeffrey Krueger [mailto:jkrueger@qualcomm.com] :Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:11 PM :To: toasters(a)mathworks.com :Subject: RFE: Network boot capavility in NetApp firmware : : :I'd like to propose an RFE and see what everyone else things :about it. If everyone would just add their comments on, that would be :great. I suppose this is an RFC for an RFE. =) : :Once we all feel comfortable with the RFE, it would be great :if we could all forward it up our sales/support channels. Something tells :me we aren't the only customer who would like to see this feature. =) : :-- Jeff : : :*************************************************************** :************** :RFE: Network boot capability in NetApp firmware : :WHAT: :===== :Add the ability to boot the OS from the network using a command such :as "boot net" from the filer firmware "ok>" prompt. : :WHY: :==== :Current booting options are from floppy disk or from SCSI/FC-AL primary :storage. Adding the ability to do this over the network from :a BOOTP/TFTP :server would allow: : : 1) Quicker/easier ONTAP upgrades and repairs : 2) Ease of use in a lab environment : :Quicker/easier ONTAP upgrades and repairs: :------------------------------------------ :Currently, upgrading between some major OS releases requires booting at :least once from floppies. Considering that with ONTAP 6.0 :three floppies :are necessary, it is extremely difficult for one person to :simultaneously :upgrade many machines in one physical location and impossible :to upgrade :machines in different physical locations. Additionally, when :a NetApp has :a non-bootable root volume due to corruption or less than n-1 disks :visible, the only option is to boot with a floppy. This means downtime :until someone can build the correct boot disks to resolve the :problem and :physically reach the machine with those floppies. Even in a single :building this process can take several minutes. On a large :campus, a trip :to the filer could take up to an hour, and for remote sites it could be :days. : :With network booting, the new OS image could be put into place :and several :machines in any location can be upgraded in lockstep simply by :accessing :the serial console and executing "boot net" on each one. :NetApp advertises :5 minute downtime for upgrades which is true in the single-filer :environment. Any customer with 30+ filers in more than one :location knows :that a full production upgrade can take much longer. :Repairing a machine :would be much easier with Network boot since disks would not have to be :built, yet the filer could be booted from any image necessary without :anyone physically traveling to the machine. Network booting :also removes :the risk of having built a bad floppy which occurs frequently. : :Ease of use in a lab environment: :--------------------------------- :Our lab environment is also difficult to manage with the current set of :boot options. We run several variants of ONTAP in the lab :including one or :two versions that are currently in production for testing new :hardware and :configuration changes and many new versions for testing new :hardware and :new features. To manage this, we do a boot from floppy and :menu choice #4, :initialize all disks, to two NetApp hard drives for each OS. :This approach :has many disadvantages including a massive consumption of hard :drives in :our lab, the tedious and time consuming process of initialize :and setting :up a new filer, and the maintenance of configuration across several :different OS's on the same machine. : :With network booting we would not have to waste a pair of :disks ONTAP for :each new ONTAP version we test - a single pair will do. The disk :initialization process would only have to be executed once :instead of once :per ONTAP version. Finally, we could manage one set of :configuration files :for all different versions. : :Granted, some major OS versions have incompatible WAFL formats and :configuration files; however, maintaining a different set of :disks between :major releases is much easier than doing it between each :release, no matter :how minor. : :HOW: :==== :We'll leave the implementation up to Network Appliance; :however, we suggest :that they use standards based ways of doing this. Filer IP resolution :could be done using RARP/BOOTP and/or DHCP. The former are :probably easier :and are fairly standard for "in-firmware" address resolution. DHCP is :probably more code to write, but might be necessary for :NT-only customers. :For boot-file transmition, TFTP would work just fine and servers are :available for both UNIX and NT. :

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RE: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply
by Benn, Paul 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Could these directories have been created by Macintosh systems (real question: do they have multiple streams)? -----Original Message----- From: Clarke, John L. (CIS) [mailto:John_Clarke@bose.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:55 PM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply Mark, We are backing up a snapshot directory. We see random results. Depending on the run, between 6 and 15 subdirectories underneath a group directory are simply skipped. No errors reported. John -----Original Message----- From: Muhlestein, Mark [ mailto:mark.muhlestein@netapp.com <mailto:mark.muhlestein@netapp.com> ] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 5:15 PM To: 'James R Grinter'; Clarke, John L. (CIS) Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply You should probably back up from a snapshot, which avoids open file issues. See Paul Benn's NT backup paper for an example of this: http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3052.html <http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3052.html> Note particularly section 5. Mark Muhlestein -- mmm(a)netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: James R Grinter [ mailto:jrg@acm.org <mailto:jrg@acm.org> ] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:04 PM To: Clarke, John L. (CIS) Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Re: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:40:56AM -0400, Clarke, John L. (CIS) wrote: > The only problem is that Omniback seems to skip about 25% of the data, with > no error messages or anything. Using the regular Backup software that comes > with NT works fine. People tell me (I have to take their word for it - I'm not familiar enough with the product) that Omniback doesn't like to back up files that are open, so anyone with their Outlook, Word, or Excel apps open with files being edited over night are probably being missed. That theory is pretty easy to test - see what files aren't being backed up. James.

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RE: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply
by Muhlestein, Mark 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

The only thing that springs to mind is that you may be encountering an issue with snapshots of directories that are not in CIFS format, although I would think an error would be logged if that were it. See bug #15840. If that is the issue you can resolve it by setting an option to always create directories in CIFS format. If that is not the problem, we'll need to have you open a call with tech support and provide some packet traces and detailed information about your setup. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Clarke, John L. (CIS) [mailto:John_Clarke@bose.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:55 PM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply Mark, We are backing up a snapshot directory. We see random results. Depending on the run, between 6 and 15 subdirectories underneath a group directory are simply skipped. No errors reported. John -----Original Message----- From: Muhlestein, Mark [ mailto:mark.muhlestein@netapp.com <mailto:mark.muhlestein@netapp.com> ] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 5:15 PM To: 'James R Grinter'; Clarke, John L. (CIS) Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply You should probably back up from a snapshot, which avoids open file issues. See Paul Benn's NT backup paper for an example of this: http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3052.html <http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3052.html> Note particularly section 5. Mark Muhlestein -- mmm(a)netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: James R Grinter [ mailto:jrg@acm.org <mailto:jrg@acm.org> ] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:04 PM To: Clarke, John L. (CIS) Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Re: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:40:56AM -0400, Clarke, John L. (CIS) wrote: > The only problem is that Omniback seems to skip about 25% of the data, with > no error messages or anything. Using the regular Backup software that comes > with NT works fine. People tell me (I have to take their word for it - I'm not familiar enough with the product) that Omniback doesn't like to back up files that are open, so anyone with their Outlook, Word, or Excel apps open with files being edited over night are probably being missed. That theory is pretty easy to test - see what files aren't being backed up. James.

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RE: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply
by Clarke, John L. (CIS) 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Mark, We are backing up a snapshot directory. We see random results. Depending on the run, between 6 and 15 subdirectories underneath a group directory are simply skipped. No errors reported. John -----Original Message----- From: Muhlestein, Mark [mailto:mark.muhlestein@netapp.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 5:15 PM To: 'James R Grinter'; Clarke, John L. (CIS) Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply You should probably back up from a snapshot, which avoids open file issues. See Paul Benn's NT backup paper for an example of this: http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3052.html Note particularly section 5. Mark Muhlestein -- mmm(a)netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: James R Grinter [mailto:jrg@acm.org] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:04 PM To: Clarke, John L. (CIS) Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Re: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:40:56AM -0400, Clarke, John L. (CIS) wrote: > The only problem is that Omniback seems to skip about 25% of the data, with > no error messages or anything. Using the regular Backup software that comes > with NT works fine. People tell me (I have to take their word for it - I'm not familiar enough with the product) that Omniback doesn't like to back up files that are open, so anyone with their Outlook, Word, or Excel apps open with files being edited over night are probably being missed. That theory is pretty easy to test - see what files aren't being backed up. James.

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Re: SNMP counter - integer overflow?
by Ketil Kirkerud Elgethun 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Edward Henigin <ed(a)datafoundry.net> writes: > I'm surprised noone has pointed this out yet, but there is > no problem. All you are monitoring off of this are deltas. If at > time T the counter is -30000, and at time T' it's -29000, > > -29000 > - -30000 > ======== > 1000 > > So ops/sec are 1000 / (T' - T) > > The deltas work just fine, regardless of whether the counter > happens to be positive or negative. Except for rollovers. "interesting" things happen when the counter rolls from (approx) 2^31-1 to -2^31.. My mrtg-graphs have these wonderful spikes every few days bacause of this (yes, I can fix this, as well. I just don't have the time right now). -- ---Ketil Kirkerud Elgethun, Infostream ASP

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SNMP counter - integer overflow?
by Henrique Pantarotto 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Hello, I am monitoring nfs ops/sec in a F760 filer using MRTG, but the value that I am getting from the last few days are in "negative". I believe it happened an overflow in the integer type used to hold this data, right? Look: [root@foo /root]# snmpget filer-e0.terra.com.br public .1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.1.0 enterprises.789.1.2.2.1.0 = -1281161705 I know I can fix this by rebooting the filer. But I don't want to do that. This is a F760 with Ontap 5.3.6.R2. It has a lot of traffic. ;-) Does anyone here knows of a solution to this problem? Thanks, _______________________________________________ Henrique Pantarotto SysOp Site São Paulo Terra Networks Brasil S/A A Internet mais sua do que nunca Tel: (11) 5505-5728 r.316/238 ICQ: 6934285 IT: henpa henrique(a)corp.terra.com.br

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alternative to ApplianceWatch
by Bui, Marcus 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

I am in search of a application to monitor two F760s. ApplianceWatch can monitor the filers but it runs on HP OpenView. However, I don't have a test environment with OpenView at the moment. Is there other alternative that is comparable to ApplicianceWatch? cheers, Marcus Bui Aim Management Group IT Services phone: 713-986-9061 fax: 713-986-9100 email: marcus_bui(a)aimfunds.com

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RE: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply
by Muhlestein, Mark 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

You should probably back up from a snapshot, which avoids open file issues. See Paul Benn's NT backup paper for an example of this: http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3052.html Note particularly section 5. Mark Muhlestein -- mmm(a)netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: James R Grinter [mailto:jrg@acm.org] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:04 PM To: Clarke, John L. (CIS) Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Re: Using Omniback for CIFS backups -Reply On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:40:56AM -0400, Clarke, John L. (CIS) wrote: > The only problem is that Omniback seems to skip about 25% of the data, with > no error messages or anything. Using the regular Backup software that comes > with NT works fine. People tell me (I have to take their word for it - I'm not familiar enough with the product) that Omniback doesn't like to back up files that are open, so anyone with their Outlook, Word, or Excel apps open with files being edited over night are probably being missed. That theory is pretty easy to test - see what files aren't being backed up. James.

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