Marketing disk size (4T)Or..Raw block size (3.815T)
Which makes a 400T aggr either 100 disks, or 105.
Beer bet to settle here. :)
It is based on the right sized capacity. So if this was The Price is Right, the 105 would win. I think the actual answer is 107.
Tim
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Mohler Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 8:24 PM To: Toasters Subject: Max Aggr Size is based on..
Marketing disk size (4T) Or.. Raw block size (3.815T)
Which makes a 400T aggr either 100 disks, or 105.
Beer bet to settle here. :)
That's where I'm at as well. Netapp doesnt directly say..but they dont have "round numbers" on anything.
I probly knew this well, in like 2001. _________________________________Jeff MohlerTech Yahoo, Storage Architect, Principal(831)454-6712 YPAC Gold Member Twitter: @PrincipalYahoo CorpIM: Hipchat & Iris
On Monday, February 8, 2016 8:34 PM, Timothy Naple tnaple@BERKCOM.com wrote:
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Which makes a 400T aggr either 100 disks, or 105.
Beer bet to settle here. :)
For those following, I’ve asked the core TMEs for an updated TR-3838 which currently only goes to 3TB disks and “smaller” aggrs than FAS8080 supports.
Hi Tim – long time no see!
Peter
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Mohler Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 8:40 PM To: NGC-tnaple-berkcom.com; 'Toasters' Subject: Re: Max Aggr Size is based on..
That's where I'm at as well. Netapp doesnt directly say..but they dont have "round numbers" on anything. I probly knew this well, in like 2001.
_________________________________ Jeff Mohlermailto:jmohler@yahoo-inc.com Tech Yahoo, Storage Architect, Principal (831)454-6712 YPAC Gold Member Twitter: @PrincipalYahoo CorpIM: Hipchat & Iris
On Monday, February 8, 2016 8:34 PM, Timothy Naple <tnaple@BERKCOM.commailto:tnaple@BERKCOM.com> wrote:
It is based on the right sized capacity. So if this was The Price is Right, the 105 would win. I think the actual answer is 107.
Tim
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.netmailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Mohler Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 8:24 PM To: Toasters Subject: Max Aggr Size is based on..
Marketing disk size (4T) Or.. Raw block size (3.815T)
Which makes a 400T aggr either 100 disks, or 105.
Beer bet to settle here. :)
400/3.815=104.85 is pure raw.400/3.807=105.07 is right-sized raw.
Tuna, is best served, raw.
_________________________________Jeff MohlerTech Yahoo, Storage Architect, Principal(831)454-6712 YPAC Gold Member Twitter: @PrincipalYahoo CorpIM: Hipchat & Iris
On Monday, February 8, 2016 8:34 PM, Timothy Naple tnaple@BERKCOM.com wrote:
#yiv2456898447 #yiv2456898447 -- _filtered #yiv2456898447 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv2456898447 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} _filtered #yiv2456898447 {font-family:Verdana;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv2456898447 #yiv2456898447 p.yiv2456898447MsoNormal, #yiv2456898447 li.yiv2456898447MsoNormal, #yiv2456898447 div.yiv2456898447MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv2456898447 a:link, #yiv2456898447 span.yiv2456898447MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2456898447 a:visited, #yiv2456898447 span.yiv2456898447MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2456898447 span.yiv2456898447EmailStyle17 {color:windowtext;}#yiv2456898447 .yiv2456898447MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv2456898447 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv2456898447 div.yiv2456898447WordSection1 {}#yiv2456898447 It is based on the right sized capacity. So if this was The Price is Right, the 105 would win. I think the actual answer is 107. Tim From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Mohler Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 8:24 PM To: Toasters Subject: Max Aggr Size is based on.. Marketing disk size (4T) Or.. Raw block size (3.815T)
Which makes a 400T aggr either 100 disks, or 105.
Beer bet to settle here. :)
They use TiB on the 400T max aggregate size and GiB on the right size, so 3718 GiB is the right sized 4TB disk. That is where I was getting the 107 from.
They do say the aggregate capacity is based on right sized in writing, but buried in the “Physical Storage Management Guide”, and everyone has better things to do (except me) than reading that!
Tim
From: Jeffrey Mohler [mailto:jmohler@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 8:42 PM To: Timothy Naple; 'Toasters' Subject: Re: Max Aggr Size is based on..
400/3.815=104.85 is pure raw. 400/3.807=105.07 is right-sized raw.
Tuna, is best served, raw.
_________________________________ Jeff Mohlermailto:jmohler@yahoo-inc.com Tech Yahoo, Storage Architect, Principal (831)454-6712 YPAC Gold Member Twitter: @PrincipalYahoo CorpIM: Hipchat & Iris
On Monday, February 8, 2016 8:34 PM, Timothy Naple <tnaple@BERKCOM.commailto:tnaple@BERKCOM.com> wrote:
It is based on the right sized capacity. So if this was The Price is Right, the 105 would win. I think the actual answer is 107.
Tim
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.netmailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Mohler Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 8:24 PM To: Toasters Subject: Max Aggr Size is based on..
Marketing disk size (4T) Or.. Raw block size (3.815T)
Which makes a 400T aggr either 100 disks, or 105.
Beer bet to settle here. :)
max aggregate size is actually based on the following (output from aggr show_space) from our findings:
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This is calculated without the Parity Disks (they don’t count into this total space) and matches with Synergy.
So it depends on RG size really, and according to Synergy, you can reach 399.45 TiB with 124 x 4 TB disks and a RG size of 18.
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From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Timothy Naple Sent: Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016 05:51 To: 'Jeffrey Mohler' jmohler@yahoo-inc.com; 'Toasters' toasters@teaparty.net Subject: RE: Max Aggr Size is based on..
They use TiB on the 400T max aggregate size and GiB on the right size, so 3718 GiB is the right sized 4TB disk. That is where I was getting the 107 from.
They do say the aggregate capacity is based on right sized in writing, but buried in the “Physical Storage Management Guide”, and everyone has better things to do (except me) than reading that!
Tim
From: Jeffrey Mohler [mailto:jmohler@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 8:42 PM To: Timothy Naple; 'Toasters' Subject: Re: Max Aggr Size is based on..
400/3.815=104.85 is pure raw. 400/3.807=105.07 is right-sized raw.
Tuna, is best served, raw.
_________________________________ Jeff Mohlermailto:jmohler@yahoo-inc.com Tech Yahoo, Storage Architect, Principal (831)454-6712 YPAC Gold Member Twitter: @PrincipalYahoo CorpIM: Hipchat & Iris
On Monday, February 8, 2016 8:34 PM, Timothy Naple <tnaple@BERKCOM.commailto:tnaple@BERKCOM.com> wrote:
It is based on the right sized capacity. So if this was The Price is Right, the 105 would win. I think the actual answer is 107.
Tim
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.netmailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Mohler Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 8:24 PM To: Toasters Subject: Max Aggr Size is based on..
Marketing disk size (4T) Or.. Raw block size (3.815T)
Which makes a 400T aggr either 100 disks, or 105.
Beer bet to settle here. :)
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