So I seem to be the place old NetApps go to die locally. This one is a v3170 which powers up fine but this drive array (DS14 version 1?) is a bit puzzling because documentation is hard to find. The person that brought it to me just provided the black (termination?) cables but wasn’t sure if they are hooked up right.
Also it looks like i have two different types of fiber between the drive shelves and 3170,(SC and LC?) so not completely sure these really went together in their previous lives in production. (would this cable connect them? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPage...)
Any ideas?
https://plus.google.com/photos/107454380334199416485/albums/6081980301515780...
So you got yourself some ancient equipment. That shelf looks like it could be an original DS14 shelf with LRC (loop resiliency circuits) for the connection to the filer. Too fuzzy to tell for sure. That shelf has not been supported in ONTAP for quite some time (well before 8.0)
I don't think you will find any supported configuration for that head and that shelf. Even if you could, cabling is an issue. Looks like only optical LC Fiber connections are on the Filer heads.
The LRC has a DB9 at the shelf and usually an HSSDC or HSDDC2 at the Filer head.
Personally....I would not waste any time on this. Find another supported shelf (refer to hwu.netapp.com).
--tmac
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM, CH gizzmo18@aol.com wrote:
So I seem to be the place old NetApps go to die locally. This one is a v3170 which powers up fine but this drive array (DS14 version 1?) is a bit puzzling because documentation is hard to find. The person that brought it to me just provided the black (termination?) cables but wasn't sure if they are hooked up right.
Also it looks like i have two different types of fiber between the drive shelves and 3170,(SC and LC?) so not completely sure these really went together in their previous lives in production. (would this cable connect them? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPage... http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT )
Any ideas?
https://plus.google.com/photos/107454380334199416485/albums/6081980301515780...
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CH,
You do have a V3170 and original DS14 shelves with LRC's there. Those are an odd match as the controllers are much newer than the shelves, and the controllers are still pretty old to begin with. The LRC's are not ideal (they are a hub and not a switch and one drive or bad FC component can cause a panic). You won't be able to get past Data ONTAP 7.2 with those. If you were going to use these for anything other than fun or lab testing, you should get ESH modules in there or just buy new shelves. The optical cables you pointed out won't work for you as they are singlemode and you would need multimode. You need NetApp part number X6515A (LC-SC). Some of your DB9-DB9 cables are also broken and should be removed. I can help you get that dinosaur running if you want, but may not be worth the time for you.
Thank you, Tim
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of tmac Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:51 AM To: CH Cc: Toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
So you got yourself some ancient equipment.
That shelf looks like it could be an original DS14 shelf with LRC (loop resiliency circuits) for the connection to the filer.
Too fuzzy to tell for sure. That shelf has not been supported in ONTAP for quite some time (well before 8.0)
I don't think you will find any supported configuration for that head and that shelf.
Even if you could, cabling is an issue. Looks like only optical LC Fiber connections are on the Filer heads.
The LRC has a DB9 at the shelf and usually an HSSDC or HSDDC2 at the Filer head.
Personally....I would not waste any time on this. Find another supported shelf (refer to hwu.netapp.com).
--tmac
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM, CH gizzmo18@aol.com wrote:
So I seem to be the place old NetApps go to die locally. This one is a v3170 which powers up fine but this drive array (DS14 version 1?) is a bit puzzling because documentation is hard to find. The person that brought it to me just provided the black (termination?) cables but wasn't sure if they are hooked up right.
Also it looks like i have two different types of fiber between the drive shelves and 3170,(SC and LC?) so not completely sure these really went together in their previous lives in production. (would this cable connect them? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPage Name=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPag eName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT )
Any ideas?
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Thanks all for all the info!
Tim,
I wouldn’t mind getting it running. The part I don’t really have experience with is the DB9 connectors, if those cables are hundreds of dollars then I might back out.
I assume the v3170 is newer than the 3020 I have running my lab which continues to run along with the only downside of being on 7.3.7.
-Chris
On Nov 15, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Timothy Naple tnaple@BERKCOM.com wrote:
CH,
You do have a V3170 and original DS14 shelves with LRC’s there. Those are an odd match as the controllers are much newer than the shelves, and the controllers are still pretty old to begin with. The LRC’s are not ideal (they are a hub and not a switch and one drive or bad FC component can cause a panic). You won’t be able to get past Data ONTAP 7.2 with those. If you were going to use these for anything other than fun or lab testing, you should get ESH modules in there or just buy new shelves. The optical cables you pointed out won’t work for you as they are singlemode and you would need multimode. You need NetApp part number X6515A (LC-SC). Some of your DB9-DB9 cables are also broken and should be removed. I can help you get that dinosaur running if you want, but may not be worth the time for you.
Thank you, Tim
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of tmac Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:51 AM To: CH Cc: Toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
So you got yourself some ancient equipment. That shelf looks like it could be an original DS14 shelf with LRC (loop resiliency circuits) for the connection to the filer. Too fuzzy to tell for sure. That shelf has not been supported in ONTAP for quite some time (well before 8.0)
I don't think you will find any supported configuration for that head and that shelf. Even if you could, cabling is an issue. Looks like only optical LC Fiber connections are on the Filer heads.
The LRC has a DB9 at the shelf and usually an HSSDC or HSDDC2 at the Filer head.
Personally....I would not waste any time on this. Find another supported shelf (refer to hwu.netapp.com).
--tmac
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM, CH gizzmo18@aol.com wrote: So I seem to be the place old NetApps go to die locally. This one is a v3170 which powers up fine but this drive array (DS14 version 1?) is a bit puzzling because documentation is hard to find. The person that brought it to me just provided the black (termination?) cables but wasn’t sure if they are hooked up right.
Also it looks like i have two different types of fiber between the drive shelves and 3170,(SC and LC?) so not completely sure these really went together in their previous lives in production. (would this cable connect them? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPage...)
Any ideas?
https://plus.google.com/photos/107454380334199416485/albums/6081980301515780...
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Chris,
The DB9 cables are dime a dozen at this point and it looks like you have some there. You might have some "newer" shelves on the FAS3020 (mk2 with ESH modules) you can just move over to the FAS3170. With those older LRC-based shelves you won't be able to go up to 7.3.X or past it.
If you still want to get it running on the old shelves, you will run LC-SC optical fibre channel from the controllers to the first shelf, then DB9-DB9 copper fibre channel from the 1st shelf to the 2nd shelf. Go top module to top module, bottom module to bottom module. Set your shelf ID's to 1 and 2, turn off termination on shelf 1 and turn on termination on shelf 2. Once you can see the disks in maintenance mode then install ONTAP 7.2.7 whatever 7.2.X you want.
Thank you, Tim
From: gizzmo18 [mailto:gizzmo18@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:34 PM To: Timothy Naple Cc: tmac; Toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
Thanks all for all the info!
Tim,
I wouldn't mind getting it running. The part I don't really have experience with is the DB9 connectors, if those cables are hundreds of dollars then I might back out.
I assume the v3170 is newer than the 3020 I have running my lab which continues to run along with the only downside of being on 7.3.7.
-Chris
On Nov 15, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Timothy Naple tnaple@BERKCOM.com wrote:
CH,
You do have a V3170 and original DS14 shelves with LRC's there. Those are an odd match as the controllers are much newer than the shelves, and the controllers are still pretty old to begin with. The LRC's are not ideal (they are a hub and not a switch and one drive or bad FC component can cause a panic). You won't be able to get past Data ONTAP 7.2 with those. If you were going to use these for anything other than fun or lab testing, you should get ESH modules in there or just buy new shelves. The optical cables you pointed out won't work for you as they are singlemode and you would need multimode. You need NetApp part number X6515A (LC-SC). Some of your DB9-DB9 cables are also broken and should be removed. I can help you get that dinosaur running if you want, but may not be worth the time for you.
Thank you, Tim
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net ] On Behalf Of tmac Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:51 AM To: CH Cc: <Toasters@teaparty.net mailto:Toasters@teaparty.net > Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
So you got yourself some ancient equipment.
That shelf looks like it could be an original DS14 shelf with LRC (loop resiliency circuits) for the connection to the filer.
Too fuzzy to tell for sure. That shelf has not been supported in ONTAP for quite some time (well before 8.0)
I don't think you will find any supported configuration for that head and that shelf.
Even if you could, cabling is an issue. Looks like only optical LC Fiber connections are on the Filer heads.
The LRC has a DB9 at the shelf and usually an HSSDC or HSDDC2 at the Filer head.
Personally....I would not waste any time on this. Find another supported shelf (refer to hwu.netapp.com http://hwu.netapp.com/ ).
--tmac
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM, CH <gizzmo18@aol.com mailto:gizzmo18@aol.com > wrote:
So I seem to be the place old NetApps go to die locally. This one is a v3170 which powers up fine but this drive array (DS14 version 1?) is a bit puzzling because documentation is hard to find. The person that brought it to me just provided the black (termination?) cables but wasn't sure if they are hooked up right.
Also it looks like i have two different types of fiber between the drive shelves and 3170,(SC and LC?) so not completely sure these really went together in their previous lives in production. (would this cable connect them? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPage Name=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPag eName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT )
Any ideas?
https://plus.google.com/photos/107454380334199416485/albums/608198030151 5780097?authkey=CJf1gYWFrOHbmAE https://plus.google.com/photos/107454380334199416485/albums/60819803015 15780097?authkey=CJf1gYWFrOHbmAE
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Tim,
Just to clarify. I wasn’t confused with the DB9 cables in general, but the ones that came with this system seem to have pins missing so they appeared to be something “special”. I can snap some pics later to clarify.
I assume I can grab any DB9 cable I find and should, technically, work. right?
Thanks for you help!
-Chris
On Nov 18, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Timothy Naple tnaple@BERKCOM.com wrote:
Chris,
The DB9 cables are dime a dozen at this point and it looks like you have some there. You might have some “newer” shelves on the FAS3020 (mk2 with ESH modules) you can just move over to the FAS3170. With those older LRC-based shelves you won’t be able to go up to 7.3.X or past it.
If you still want to get it running on the old shelves, you will run LC-SC optical fibre channel from the controllers to the first shelf, then DB9-DB9 copper fibre channel from the 1st shelf to the 2nd shelf. Go top module to top module, bottom module to bottom module. Set your shelf ID’s to 1 and 2, turn off termination on shelf 1 and turn on termination on shelf 2. Once you can see the disks in maintenance mode then install ONTAP 7.2.7 whatever 7.2.X you want.
Thank you, Tim
From: gizzmo18 [mailto:gizzmo18@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:34 PM To: Timothy Naple Cc: tmac; Toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
Thanks all for all the info!
Tim,
I wouldn’t mind getting it running. The part I don’t really have experience with is the DB9 connectors, if those cables are hundreds of dollars then I might back out.
I assume the v3170 is newer than the 3020 I have running my lab which continues to run along with the only downside of being on 7.3.7.
-Chris
On Nov 15, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Timothy Naple tnaple@BERKCOM.com wrote:
CH,
You do have a V3170 and original DS14 shelves with LRC’s there. Those are an odd match as the controllers are much newer than the shelves, and the controllers are still pretty old to begin with. The LRC’s are not ideal (they are a hub and not a switch and one drive or bad FC component can cause a panic). You won’t be able to get past Data ONTAP 7.2 with those. If you were going to use these for anything other than fun or lab testing, you should get ESH modules in there or just buy new shelves. The optical cables you pointed out won’t work for you as they are singlemode and you would need multimode. You need NetApp part number X6515A (LC-SC). Some of your DB9-DB9 cables are also broken and should be removed. I can help you get that dinosaur running if you want, but may not be worth the time for you.
Thank you, Tim
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of tmac Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:51 AM To: CH Cc: Toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
So you got yourself some ancient equipment. That shelf looks like it could be an original DS14 shelf with LRC (loop resiliency circuits) for the connection to the filer. Too fuzzy to tell for sure. That shelf has not been supported in ONTAP for quite some time (well before 8.0)
I don't think you will find any supported configuration for that head and that shelf. Even if you could, cabling is an issue. Looks like only optical LC Fiber connections are on the Filer heads.
The LRC has a DB9 at the shelf and usually an HSSDC or HSDDC2 at the Filer head.
Personally....I would not waste any time on this. Find another supported shelf (refer to hwu.netapp.com).
--tmac
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM, CH gizzmo18@aol.com wrote: So I seem to be the place old NetApps go to die locally. This one is a v3170 which powers up fine but this drive array (DS14 version 1?) is a bit puzzling because documentation is hard to find. The person that brought it to me just provided the black (termination?) cables but wasn’t sure if they are hooked up right.
Also it looks like i have two different types of fiber between the drive shelves and 3170,(SC and LC?) so not completely sure these really went together in their previous lives in production. (would this cable connect them? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPage...)
Any ideas?
https://plus.google.com/photos/107454380334199416485/albums/6081980301515780...
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Chris,
The cables are supposed to have 4 pins. That is what copper fibre channel uses.
Tim
From: gizzmo18 [mailto:gizzmo18@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 3:08 PM To: Timothy Naple Cc: tmac; Toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
Tim,
Just to clarify. I wasn't confused with the DB9 cables in general, but the ones that came with this system seem to have pins missing so they appeared to be something "special". I can snap some pics later to clarify.
I assume I can grab any DB9 cable I find and should, technically, work. right?
Thanks for you help!
-Chris
On Nov 18, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Timothy Naple tnaple@BERKCOM.com wrote:
Chris,
The DB9 cables are dime a dozen at this point and it looks like you have some there. You might have some "newer" shelves on the FAS3020 (mk2 with ESH modules) you can just move over to the FAS3170. With those older LRC-based shelves you won't be able to go up to 7.3.X or past it.
If you still want to get it running on the old shelves, you will run LC-SC optical fibre channel from the controllers to the first shelf, then DB9-DB9 copper fibre channel from the 1st shelf to the 2nd shelf. Go top module to top module, bottom module to bottom module. Set your shelf ID's to 1 and 2, turn off termination on shelf 1 and turn on termination on shelf 2. Once you can see the disks in maintenance mode then install ONTAP 7.2.7 whatever 7.2.X you want.
Thank you, Tim
From: gizzmo18 [mailto:gizzmo18@aol.com mailto:gizzmo18@aol.com ] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:34 PM To: Timothy Naple Cc: tmac; <Toasters@teaparty.net mailto:Toasters@teaparty.net > Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
Thanks all for all the info!
Tim,
I wouldn't mind getting it running. The part I don't really have experience with is the DB9 connectors, if those cables are hundreds of dollars then I might back out.
I assume the v3170 is newer than the 3020 I have running my lab which continues to run along with the only downside of being on 7.3.7.
-Chris
On Nov 15, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Timothy Naple <tnaple@BERKCOM.com mailto:tnaple@BERKCOM.com > wrote:
CH,
You do have a V3170 and original DS14 shelves with LRC's there. Those are an odd match as the controllers are much newer than the shelves, and the controllers are still pretty old to begin with. The LRC's are not ideal (they are a hub and not a switch and one drive or bad FC component can cause a panic). You won't be able to get past Data ONTAP 7.2 with those. If you were going to use these for anything other than fun or lab testing, you should get ESH modules in there or just buy new shelves. The optical cables you pointed out won't work for you as they are singlemode and you would need multimode. You need NetApp part number X6515A (LC-SC). Some of your DB9-DB9 cables are also broken and should be removed. I can help you get that dinosaur running if you want, but may not be worth the time for you.
Thank you, Tim
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net ] On Behalf Of tmac Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:51 AM To: CH Cc: <Toasters@teaparty.net mailto:Toasters@teaparty.net > Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
So you got yourself some ancient equipment.
That shelf looks like it could be an original DS14 shelf with LRC (loop resiliency circuits) for the connection to the filer.
Too fuzzy to tell for sure. That shelf has not been supported in ONTAP for quite some time (well before 8.0)
I don't think you will find any supported configuration for that head and that shelf.
Even if you could, cabling is an issue. Looks like only optical LC Fiber connections are on the Filer heads.
The LRC has a DB9 at the shelf and usually an HSSDC or HSDDC2 at the Filer head.
Personally....I would not waste any time on this. Find another supported shelf (refer to hwu.netapp.com http://hwu.netapp.com/ ).
--tmac
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM, CH <gizzmo18@aol.com mailto:gizzmo18@aol.com > wrote:
So I seem to be the place old NetApps go to die locally. This one is a v3170 which powers up fine but this drive array (DS14 version 1?) is a bit puzzling because documentation is hard to find. The person that brought it to me just provided the black (termination?) cables but wasn't sure if they are hooked up right.
Also it looks like i have two different types of fiber between the drive shelves and 3170,(SC and LC?) so not completely sure these really went together in their previous lives in production. (would this cable connect them? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPage Name=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPag eName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT )
Any ideas?
https://plus.google.com/photos/107454380334199416485/albums/608198030151 5780097?authkey=CJf1gYWFrOHbmAE https://plus.google.com/photos/107454380334199416485/albums/60819803015 15780097?authkey=CJf1gYWFrOHbmAE
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Those cables will need to support 1Gb/s; this is a bit more than your average serial port. So I doubt any cable will do.
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19 нояб. 2014 г., в 2:13, gizzmo18 <gizzmo18@aol.commailto:gizzmo18@aol.com> написал(а):
Tim,
Just to clarify. I wasn’t confused with the DB9 cables in general, but the ones that came with this system seem to have pins missing so they appeared to be something “special”. I can snap some pics later to clarify.
I assume I can grab any DB9 cable I find and should, technically, work. right?
Thanks for you help!
-Chris
On Nov 18, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Timothy Naple <tnaple@BERKCOM.commailto:tnaple@BERKCOM.com> wrote:
Chris,
The DB9 cables are dime a dozen at this point and it looks like you have some there. You might have some “newer” shelves on the FAS3020 (mk2 with ESH modules) you can just move over to the FAS3170. With those older LRC-based shelves you won’t be able to go up to 7.3.X or past it.
If you still want to get it running on the old shelves, you will run LC-SC optical fibre channel from the controllers to the first shelf, then DB9-DB9 copper fibre channel from the 1st shelf to the 2nd shelf. Go top module to top module, bottom module to bottom module. Set your shelf ID’s to 1 and 2, turn off termination on shelf 1 and turn on termination on shelf 2. Once you can see the disks in maintenance mode then install ONTAP 7.2.7 whatever 7.2.X you want.
Thank you, Tim
From: gizzmo18 [mailto:gizzmo18@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:34 PM To: Timothy Naple Cc: tmac; <Toasters@teaparty.netmailto:Toasters@teaparty.net> Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
Thanks all for all the info!
Tim,
I wouldn’t mind getting it running. The part I don’t really have experience with is the DB9 connectors, if those cables are hundreds of dollars then I might back out.
I assume the v3170 is newer than the 3020 I have running my lab which continues to run along with the only downside of being on 7.3.7.
-Chris
On Nov 15, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Timothy Naple <tnaple@BERKCOM.commailto:tnaple@BERKCOM.com> wrote:
CH,
You do have a V3170 and original DS14 shelves with LRC’s there. Those are an odd match as the controllers are much newer than the shelves, and the controllers are still pretty old to begin with. The LRC’s are not ideal (they are a hub and not a switch and one drive or bad FC component can cause a panic). You won’t be able to get past Data ONTAP 7.2 with those. If you were going to use these for anything other than fun or lab testing, you should get ESH modules in there or just buy new shelves. The optical cables you pointed out won’t work for you as they are singlemode and you would need multimode. You need NetApp part number X6515A (LC-SC). Some of your DB9-DB9 cables are also broken and should be removed. I can help you get that dinosaur running if you want, but may not be worth the time for you.
Thank you, Tim
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.netmailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of tmac Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:51 AM To: CH Cc: <Toasters@teaparty.netmailto:Toasters@teaparty.net> Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
So you got yourself some ancient equipment. That shelf looks like it could be an original DS14 shelf with LRC (loop resiliency circuits) for the connection to the filer. Too fuzzy to tell for sure. That shelf has not been supported in ONTAP for quite some time (well before 8.0)
I don't think you will find any supported configuration for that head and that shelf. Even if you could, cabling is an issue. Looks like only optical LC Fiber connections are on the Filer heads.
The LRC has a DB9 at the shelf and usually an HSSDC or HSDDC2 at the Filer head.
Personally....I would not waste any time on this. Find another supported shelf (refer to hwu.netapp.comhttp://hwu.netapp.com/).
--tmac
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM, CH <gizzmo18@aol.commailto:gizzmo18@aol.com> wrote: So I seem to be the place old NetApps go to die locally. This one is a v3170 which powers up fine but this drive array (DS14 version 1?) is a bit puzzling because documentation is hard to find. The person that brought it to me just provided the black (termination?) cables but wasn’t sure if they are hooked up right.
Also it looks like i have two different types of fiber between the drive shelves and 3170,(SC and LC?) so not completely sure these really went together in their previous lives in production. (would this cable connect them? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPage...http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT)
Any ideas?
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Not to worry. I ordered one that claims it’s for “fiber channel”.
Next update after the cables arrive….unless i end up with a 6th Netapp before then. (not sure if the v3170 counts as 1 or 2) :)
Thanks all.
-Chris On Nov 18, 2014, at 9:43 PM, Borzenkov, Andrei andrei.borzenkov@ts.fujitsu.com wrote:
Those cables will need to support 1Gb/s; this is a bit more than your average serial port. So I doubt any cable will do.
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19 нояб. 2014 г., в 2:13, gizzmo18 gizzmo18@aol.com написал(а):
Tim,
Just to clarify. I wasn’t confused with the DB9 cables in general, but the ones that came with this system seem to have pins missing so they appeared to be something “special”. I can snap some pics later to clarify.
I assume I can grab any DB9 cable I find and should, technically, work. right?
Thanks for you help!
-Chris
On Nov 18, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Timothy Naple tnaple@BERKCOM.com wrote:
Chris,
The DB9 cables are dime a dozen at this point and it looks like you have some there. You might have some “newer” shelves on the FAS3020 (mk2 with ESH modules) you can just move over to the FAS3170. With those older LRC-based shelves you won’t be able to go up to 7.3.X or past it.
If you still want to get it running on the old shelves, you will run LC-SC optical fibre channel from the controllers to the first shelf, then DB9-DB9 copper fibre channel from the 1st shelf to the 2nd shelf. Go top module to top module, bottom module to bottom module. Set your shelf ID’s to 1 and 2, turn off termination on shelf 1 and turn on termination on shelf 2. Once you can see the disks in maintenance mode then install ONTAP 7.2.7 whatever 7.2.X you want.
Thank you, Tim
From: gizzmo18 [mailto:gizzmo18@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:34 PM To: Timothy Naple Cc: tmac; Toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
Thanks all for all the info!
Tim,
I wouldn’t mind getting it running. The part I don’t really have experience with is the DB9 connectors, if those cables are hundreds of dollars then I might back out.
I assume the v3170 is newer than the 3020 I have running my lab which continues to run along with the only downside of being on 7.3.7.
-Chris
On Nov 15, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Timothy Naple tnaple@BERKCOM.com wrote:
CH,
You do have a V3170 and original DS14 shelves with LRC’s there. Those are an odd match as the controllers are much newer than the shelves, and the controllers are still pretty old to begin with. The LRC’s are not ideal (they are a hub and not a switch and one drive or bad FC component can cause a panic). You won’t be able to get past Data ONTAP 7.2 with those. If you were going to use these for anything other than fun or lab testing, you should get ESH modules in there or just buy new shelves. The optical cables you pointed out won’t work for you as they are singlemode and you would need multimode. You need NetApp part number X6515A (LC-SC). Some of your DB9-DB9 cables are also broken and should be removed. I can help you get that dinosaur running if you want, but may not be worth the time for you.
Thank you, Tim
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of tmac Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:51 AM To: CH Cc: Toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
So you got yourself some ancient equipment. That shelf looks like it could be an original DS14 shelf with LRC (loop resiliency circuits) for the connection to the filer. Too fuzzy to tell for sure. That shelf has not been supported in ONTAP for quite some time (well before 8.0)
I don't think you will find any supported configuration for that head and that shelf. Even if you could, cabling is an issue. Looks like only optical LC Fiber connections are on the Filer heads.
The LRC has a DB9 at the shelf and usually an HSSDC or HSDDC2 at the Filer head.
Personally....I would not waste any time on this. Find another supported shelf (refer to hwu.netapp.com).
--tmac
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM, CH gizzmo18@aol.com wrote: So I seem to be the place old NetApps go to die locally. This one is a v3170 which powers up fine but this drive array (DS14 version 1?) is a bit puzzling because documentation is hard to find. The person that brought it to me just provided the black (termination?) cables but wasn’t sure if they are hooked up right.
Also it looks like i have two different types of fiber between the drive shelves and 3170,(SC and LC?) so not completely sure these really went together in their previous lives in production. (would this cable connect them? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPage...)
Any ideas?
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Well a few $12 cables later Success!
Of course not too much to show for it. The shelves are pretty mad and have a few dead/dying drives. Also the volumes seem mixed up.
The licenses that supposedly went with this say "invalid platform” so good thing it was cheap.
Thanks Tim and all for the help so far!
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On Nov 18, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Timothy Naple tnaple@BERKCOM.com wrote:
Chris,
The DB9 cables are dime a dozen at this point and it looks like you have some there. You might have some “newer” shelves on the FAS3020 (mk2 with ESH modules) you can just move over to the FAS3170. With those older LRC-based shelves you won’t be able to go up to 7.3.X or past it.
If you still want to get it running on the old shelves, you will run LC-SC optical fibre channel from the controllers to the first shelf, then DB9-DB9 copper fibre channel from the 1st shelf to the 2nd shelf. Go top module to top module, bottom module to bottom module. Set your shelf ID’s to 1 and 2, turn off termination on shelf 1 and turn on termination on shelf 2. Once you can see the disks in maintenance mode then install ONTAP 7.2.7 whatever 7.2.X you want.
Thank you, Tim
From: gizzmo18 [mailto:gizzmo18@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:34 PM To: Timothy Naple Cc: tmac; Toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
Thanks all for all the info!
Tim,
I wouldn’t mind getting it running. The part I don’t really have experience with is the DB9 connectors, if those cables are hundreds of dollars then I might back out.
I assume the v3170 is newer than the 3020 I have running my lab which continues to run along with the only downside of being on 7.3.7.
-Chris
On Nov 15, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Timothy Naple tnaple@BERKCOM.com wrote:
CH,
You do have a V3170 and original DS14 shelves with LRC’s there. Those are an odd match as the controllers are much newer than the shelves, and the controllers are still pretty old to begin with. The LRC’s are not ideal (they are a hub and not a switch and one drive or bad FC component can cause a panic). You won’t be able to get past Data ONTAP 7.2 with those. If you were going to use these for anything other than fun or lab testing, you should get ESH modules in there or just buy new shelves. The optical cables you pointed out won’t work for you as they are singlemode and you would need multimode. You need NetApp part number X6515A (LC-SC). Some of your DB9-DB9 cables are also broken and should be removed. I can help you get that dinosaur running if you want, but may not be worth the time for you.
Thank you, Tim
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of tmac Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:51 AM To: CH Cc: Toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
So you got yourself some ancient equipment. That shelf looks like it could be an original DS14 shelf with LRC (loop resiliency circuits) for the connection to the filer. Too fuzzy to tell for sure. That shelf has not been supported in ONTAP for quite some time (well before 8.0)
I don't think you will find any supported configuration for that head and that shelf. Even if you could, cabling is an issue. Looks like only optical LC Fiber connections are on the Filer heads.
The LRC has a DB9 at the shelf and usually an HSSDC or HSDDC2 at the Filer head.
Personally....I would not waste any time on this. Find another supported shelf (refer to hwu.netapp.com).
--tmac
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM, CH gizzmo18@aol.com wrote: So I seem to be the place old NetApps go to die locally. This one is a v3170 which powers up fine but this drive array (DS14 version 1?) is a bit puzzling because documentation is hard to find. The person that brought it to me just provided the black (termination?) cables but wasn’t sure if they are hooked up right.
Also it looks like i have two different types of fiber between the drive shelves and 3170,(SC and LC?) so not completely sure these really went together in their previous lives in production. (would this cable connect them? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPage...)
Any ideas?
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Nah the HSSDC2 were only in the FAS270/250
There are two types of LRC modules, one with twin DB9, one with an SC fibre and a DB9. The hop between the head and the first shelf was always fibre.
You could use an LC/SC fibre to connect them to the controllers but like others have said you'd at best be able to run something like 7.2
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of tmac Sent: Sunday, 16 November 2014 6:51 a.m. To: CH Cc: Toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
So you got yourself some ancient equipment. That shelf looks like it could be an original DS14 shelf with LRC (loop resiliency circuits) for the connection to the filer. Too fuzzy to tell for sure. That shelf has not been supported in ONTAP for quite some time (well before 8.0)
I don't think you will find any supported configuration for that head and that shelf. Even if you could, cabling is an issue. Looks like only optical LC Fiber connections are on the Filer heads.
The LRC has a DB9 at the shelf and usually an HSSDC or HSDDC2 at the Filer head.
Personally....I would not waste any time on this. Find another supported shelf (refer to hwu.netapp.comhttp://hwu.netapp.com).
--tmac
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM, CH <gizzmo18@aol.commailto:gizzmo18@aol.com> wrote: So I seem to be the place old NetApps go to die locally. This one is a v3170 which powers up fine but this drive array (DS14 version 1?) is a bit puzzling because documentation is hard to find. The person that brought it to me just provided the black (termination?) cables but wasn't sure if they are hooked up right.
Also it looks like i have two different types of fiber between the drive shelves and 3170,(SC and LC?) so not completely sure these really went together in their previous lives in production. (would this cable connect them? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPage...http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT)
Any ideas?
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