Chris,
The cables are supposed to have 4 pins. That is what copper fibre channel uses.
Tim
From: gizzmo18 [mailto:gizzmo18@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 3:08 PM
To: Timothy Naple
Cc: tmac; <Toasters@teaparty.net>
Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
Tim,
Just to clarify. I wasn’t confused with the DB9 cables in general, but the ones that came with this system seem to have pins missing so they appeared to be something “special”. I can snap some pics later to clarify.
I assume I can grab any DB9 cable I find and should, technically, work. right?
Thanks for you help!
-Chris
On Nov 18, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Timothy Naple <tnaple@BERKCOM.com> wrote:
Chris,
The DB9 cables are dime a dozen at this point and it looks like you have some there. You might have some “newer” shelves on the FAS3020 (mk2 with ESH modules) you can just move over to the FAS3170. With those older LRC-based shelves you won’t be able to go up to 7.3.X or past it.
If you still want to get it running on the old shelves, you will run LC-SC optical fibre channel from the controllers to the first shelf, then DB9-DB9 copper fibre channel from the 1st shelf to the 2nd shelf. Go top module to top module, bottom module to bottom module. Set your shelf ID’s to 1 and 2, turn off termination on shelf 1 and turn on termination on shelf 2. Once you can see the disks in maintenance mode then install ONTAP 7.2.7 whatever 7.2.X you want.
Thank you,
Tim
From: gizzmo18 [mailto:gizzmo18@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:34 PM
To: Timothy Naple
Cc: tmac; <Toasters@teaparty.net>
Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
Thanks all for all the info!
Tim,
I wouldn’t mind getting it running. The part I don’t really have experience with is the DB9 connectors, if those cables are hundreds of dollars then I might back out.
I assume the v3170 is newer than the 3020 I have running my lab which continues to run along with the only downside of being on 7.3.7.
-Chris
On Nov 15, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Timothy Naple <tnaple@BERKCOM.com> wrote:
CH,
You do have a V3170 and original DS14 shelves with LRC’s there. Those are an odd match as the controllers are much newer than the shelves, and the controllers are still pretty old to begin with. The LRC’s are not ideal (they are a hub and not a switch and one drive or bad FC component can cause a panic). You won’t be able to get past Data ONTAP 7.2 with those. If you were going to use these for anything other than fun or lab testing, you should get ESH modules in there or just buy new shelves. The optical cables you pointed out won’t work for you as they are singlemode and you would need multimode. You need NetApp part number X6515A (LC-SC). Some of your DB9-DB9 cables are also broken and should be removed. I can help you get that dinosaur running if you want, but may not be worth the time for you.
Thank you,
Tim
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of tmac
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:51 AM
To: CH
Cc: <Toasters@teaparty.net>
Subject: Re: NetApp 3170 and drive array ds14_NOT_mk2??
So you got yourself some ancient equipment.
That shelf looks like it could be an original DS14 shelf with LRC (loop resiliency circuits) for the connection to the filer.
Too fuzzy to tell for sure. That shelf has not been supported in ONTAP for quite some time (well before 8.0)
I don't think you will find any supported configuration for that head and that shelf.
Even if you could, cabling is an issue. Looks like only optical LC Fiber connections are on the Filer heads.
The LRC has a DB9 at the shelf and usually an HSSDC or HSDDC2 at the Filer head.
Personally....I would not waste any time on this. Find another supported shelf (refer to hwu.netapp.com).
--tmac
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM, CH <gizzmo18@aol.com> wrote:
So I seem to be the place old NetApps go to die locally. This one is a v3170 which powers up fine but this drive array (DS14 version 1?) is a bit puzzling because documentation is hard to find. The person that brought it to me just provided the black (termination?) cables but wasn’t sure if they are hooked up right.
Also it looks like i have two different types of fiber between the drive shelves and 3170,(SC and LC?) so not completely sure these really went together in their previous lives in production. (would this cable connect them? http://www.ebay.com/itm/271651441657?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Any ideas?
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