Hi,
I was recently tasked with presenting latency numbers for aggrs and vols on a regular basis. These would be numbers averaged over 30 days.
We're on cDOT 9.1P2 and OCUM is, to say the least, anemic when it comes to reporting on such things. Performance manager will provide the numbers but doesn't have the capabilities to save them to a spreadsheet, or whatever.
What are you fellow NetApp admins using for metrics reporting these days?
Best performance Monitoring Tool ever: http://nabox.tynsoe.org
Regards,
Tim NetApp PSC s.eno s.eno@me.com schrieb am Mo. 12. Juni 2017 um 16:11:
Hi,
I was recently tasked with presenting latency numbers for aggrs and vols on a regular basis. These would be numbers averaged over 30 days.
We're on cDOT 9.1P2 and OCUM is, to say the least, anemic when it comes to reporting on such things. Performance manager will provide the numbers but doesn't have the capabilities to save them to a spreadsheet, or whatever.
What are you fellow NetApp admins using for metrics reporting these days?
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Thanks! And agreed! I have had Harvest running for some time. It's just not easy, as far as I can tell, to translate those graphs to spreadsheets, etc.
Yes I can share out the dashboards and send out a link but have had problems getting that to work without requiring the viewer to need a login.
On Jun 12, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Tim Stiller tim.stiller@gmail.com wrote:
Best performance Monitoring Tool ever: http://nabox.tynsoe.org
Regards,
Tim NetApp PSC s.eno s.eno@me.com schrieb am Mo. 12. Juni 2017 um 16:11:
Hi,
I was recently tasked with presenting latency numbers for aggrs and vols on a regular basis. These would be numbers averaged over 30 days.
We're on cDOT 9.1P2 and OCUM is, to say the least, anemic when it comes to reporting on such things. Performance manager will provide the numbers but doesn't have the capabilities to save them to a spreadsheet, or whatever.
What are you fellow NetApp admins using for metrics reporting these days?
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You should be able to use the Graphite API to export a graph as a CSV; http://graphite.readthedocs.io/en/latest/render_api.html
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of "s.eno" s.eno@me.com Date: Monday, June 12, 2017 at 3:18 PM To: Tim Stiller tim.stiller@gmail.com Cc: Toasters toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: Metrics collection/reporting
Thanks! And agreed! I have had Harvest running for some time. It's just not easy, as far as I can tell, to translate those graphs to spreadsheets, etc.
Yes I can share out the dashboards and send out a link but have had problems getting that to work without requiring the viewer to need a login.
On Jun 12, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Tim Stiller <tim.stiller@gmail.commailto:tim.stiller@gmail.com> wrote: Best performance Monitoring Tool ever: http://nabox.tynsoe.org
Regards,
Tim NetApp PSC s.eno <s.eno@me.commailto:s.eno@me.com> schrieb am Mo. 12. Juni 2017 um 16:11: Hi,
I was recently tasked with presenting latency numbers for aggrs and vols on a regular basis. These would be numbers averaged over 30 days.
We're on cDOT 9.1P2 and OCUM is, to say the least, anemic when it comes to reporting on such things. Performance manager will provide the numbers but doesn't have the capabilities to save them to a spreadsheet, or whatever.
What are you fellow NetApp admins using for metrics reporting these days?
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On 2017-06-12 16:14, Tim Stiller wrote:
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That is good, yes. But the key Q is always: what is it that someone intends to do with the [latency] numbers once they are there and can be seen? If you have no idea what the numbers mean, how to interpret them, or indeed if they are good or bad, then what is the point of measuring/tracking s**tloads of counters? There are 1000s of them inside ONTAP.
I know this sounds like I'm just generally challenging the usefulness of any and all performance metrics tracking and in a way I am -- in another way I'm not. *I* want to see those numbers and try to learn from them, but I generally do not want any non-experts to see them, that's my basic attitude
Explanations of causality between performance utilistaion and various latency metrics in a highly complex technical system for the purpose of budgeting for Capacity Management is a daunting task. I feel it has to be kept very very simple, so simple that any layman can grasp it. Pointy Haired boss in the IT industry cannot comprehend complex systemic relations, he's not interested IYKWIM
/M
My managers like to be able to send colourful graphs to customers so I have started to use netapp harvest and am finding it really useful.
Mark
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Hi,
I was recently tasked with presenting latency numbers for aggrs and vols on a regular basis. These would be numbers averaged over 30 days.
We're on cDOT 9.1P2 and OCUM is, to say the least, anemic when it comes to reporting on such things. Performance manager will provide the numbers but doesn't have the capabilities to save them to a spreadsheet, or whatever.
What are you fellow NetApp admins using for metrics reporting these days?
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On 2017-06-12 16:15, Mark Saunders wrote:
My managers like to be able to send colourful graphs to customers so I have started to use netapp harvest and am finding it really useful.
Colourful graphs and blinking lights that people have no idea what they mean... yeah. I know. I guess I'm just tired of that phenomenon
I'm mostly interested in system knowledge and actually understanding its behaviour. Most managers are (of course) not. So why would they like to see graphs and numbers they have no idea about the meaning of..? A: because it looks cool.
And I suppose there's always the reverse usefulness: those numbers and graphs can be used by me/you (us) to prove that the performance problem in the environment is not a storage problem so you can say "please go away and look for someone else to blame"
/M
NetApp Harvest is a very fine tool for this.
It pushes the metrics into Graphite/Carbon and brings also Grafana Dashboard templates.
Grafana itself cannot just export the data, so you'd need to export them yourselves from Graphite.
Regards Marcel
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Hi,
I was recently tasked with presenting latency numbers for aggrs and vols on a regular basis. These would be numbers averaged over 30 days.
We're on cDOT 9.1P2 and OCUM is, to say the least, anemic when it comes to reporting on such things. Performance manager will provide the numbers but doesn't have the capabilities to save them to a spreadsheet, or whatever.
What are you fellow NetApp admins using for metrics reporting these days?
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Grafana is a great visual tool, should give you the averages (and many other things) you're after. NAbox is a great easy way to deploy it too.
Allows you to select the range periods i.e. 30 days, and more importantly it helps you drill down to the problem. It’s the sort of thing that looks great on a big screen or presentation.
Useful links:
On 12 June 2017 at 15:06 "s.eno" <s.eno@me.com> wrote: Hi, I was recently tasked with presenting latency numbers for aggrs and volson a regular basis. These would be numbers averaged over 30 days.
We're on cDOT 9.1P2 and OCUM is, to say the least, anemic when it comes toreporting on such things. Performance manager will provide the numbers but doesn't have the capabilities to save them to a spreadsheet, or whatever.
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I've rolled my own, using some perl to ssh and run commands, and rrdtool to take databases and graph them. Seems to work pretty well.
On 12 June 2017 at 15:16, TAYLOR DANIEL dantaylor@ntlworld.com wrote:
Grafana is a great visual tool, should give you the averages (and many other things) you're after. NAbox is a great easy way to deploy it too.
Allows you to select the range periods i.e. 30 days, and more importantly it helps you drill down to the problem. It’s the sort of thing that looks great on a big screen or presentation.
Useful links:
On 12 June 2017 at 15:06 "s.eno" s.eno@me.com wrote:
Hi,
I was recently tasked with presenting latency numbers for aggrs and vols on a regular basis. These would be numbers averaged over 30 days.
We're on cDOT 9.1P2 and OCUM is, to say the least, anemic when it comes to reporting on such things. Performance manager will provide the numbers but doesn't have the capabilities to save them to a spreadsheet, or whatever.
What are you fellow NetApp admins using for metrics reporting these days?
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On 2017-06-12 16:06, s.eno wrote:
I was recently tasked with presenting latency numbers for aggrs and vols on a regular basis. These would be numbers averaged over 30 days.
Intersting. And what, if I may ask (you may not have an answer), would the person who gave you this task do with the per Aggr & Vol latency numbers if they got them?
/M
We're on cDOT 9.1P2 and OCUM is, to say the least, anemic when it comes to reporting on such things. Performance manager will provide the numbers but doesn't have the capabilities to save them to a spreadsheet, or whatever.
What are you fellow NetApp admins using for metrics reporting these days?
Scott,
If you upgrade to OnCommand Unified Manager 7.2 (currently RC1, GA by end of month), you will find that the performance tables in the performance section are now exportable to CSV. That might make your life easier.
You will also find that Unified Manager and Performance Manager are now consolidated on a single server, with an updated UI and much improved performance.
-- Phil
Philip Bachman philip.bachman@netapp.com
On 6/12/17, 10:06 AM, "toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of s.eno" <toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of s.eno@me.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was recently tasked with presenting latency numbers for aggrs and vols on a regular basis. These would be numbers averaged over 30 days.
We're on cDOT 9.1P2 and OCUM is, to say the least, anemic when it comes to reporting on such things. Performance manager will provide the numbers but doesn't have the capabilities to save them to a spreadsheet, or whatever.
What are you fellow NetApp admins using for metrics reporting these days?
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