Hello,
We are the middle of move planning and need to snapmirror some 7 Mode data.
The gear we have for the destination is from the factory with 9.5.
The usual netboot is throwing errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
Um... Use 7-mode transition tool from the support site
It allows one way TDP mirrors from 7-mode to any ONTAP release up to 9.5
It will not work with 9.6
No need to downgrade. Honestly to do that is a ton of work and not all platforms can go back that far anyway.
Your NetApp sales team really should have informed you about 7MTT.
Get Outlook for iOShttps://aka.ms/o0ukef
________________________________ From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of Carolyn Chambers carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 9:57 PM To: toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Need to quickly downgrade from 9.5 to 8.2.4
Hello,
We are the middle of move planning and need to snapmirror some 7 Mode data.
The gear we have for the destination is from the factory with 9.5.
The usual netboot is throwing errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
_______________________________________________ Toasters mailing list Toasters@teaparty.net http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters
Source is already 7mtt’d but shipping a 7 mode system and need a copy we can run from.
Concerned that if the 7mode system does not make the move well we would have to manually finish 7mtt.
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Tim McCarthy <tmacmd@gmail.commailto:tmacmd@gmail.com> wrote:
Um... Use 7-mode transition tool from the support site
It allows one way TDP mirrors from 7-mode to any ONTAP release up to 9.5
It will not work with 9.6
No need to downgrade. Honestly to do that is a ton of work and not all platforms can go back that far anyway.
Your NetApp sales team really should have informed you about 7MTT.
Get Outlook for iOShttps://aka.ms/o0ukef
________________________________ From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.netmailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 9:57 PM To: toasters@teaparty.netmailto:toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Need to quickly downgrade from 9.5 to 8.2.4
Hello,
We are the middle of move planning and need to snapmirror some 7 Mode data.
The gear we have for the destination is from the factory with 9.5.
The usual netboot is throwing errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
_______________________________________________ Toasters mailing list Toasters@teaparty.netmailto:Toasters@teaparty.net http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters
The point of 7mtt is to mirror to ONTAP and then cut-over. Yes, it is one way but we have customers doing it quite frequently. It is not a move, it is a SnapMirror (Transition Data Protection or TDP Mirror). As along as the mirror portions finish, cutting over is pretty straight forward.
If something unforeseen happens and a manual cut-over has to happen, so be it. It should not be too difficult.
--tmac
*Tim McCarthy, **Principal Consultant*
*Proud Member of the #NetAppATeam https://twitter.com/NetAppATeam*
*I Blog at TMACsRack https://tmacsrack.wordpress.com/*
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:02 PM Carolyn Chambers < carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote:
Source is already 7mtt’d but shipping a 7 mode system and need a copy we can run from.
Concerned that if the 7mode system does not make the move well we would have to manually finish 7mtt.
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Tim McCarthy tmacmd@gmail.com wrote:
Um... Use 7-mode transition tool from the support site
It allows one way TDP mirrors from 7-mode to any ONTAP release up to 9.5
It will not work with 9.6
No need to downgrade. Honestly to do that is a ton of work and not all platforms can go back that far anyway.
Your NetApp sales team really should have informed you about 7MTT.
Get Outlook for iOS https://aka.ms/o0ukef
*From:* toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of Carolyn Chambers < carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> *Sent:* Friday, July 5, 2019 9:57 PM *To:* toasters@teaparty.net *Subject:* Need to quickly downgrade from 9.5 to 8.2.4
Hello,
We are the middle of move planning and need to snapmirror some 7 Mode data.
The gear we have for the destination is from the factory with 9.5.
The usual netboot is throwing errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
Toasters mailing list Toasters@teaparty.net http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters
1) we have an 800TB 7mode system
2) we have a new OnTap 9 that has a 7mtt replica
3) the 7mode system is being dismantled and physically moved by truck about 6 hours away.
4) we would like a 7mode snapmirror on a third system that is not being moved
5) we want to use 7mtt cutover tool after the move (based on the customers availability) and not do it manually in the middle of the move.
We need to downgrade a 9.5 system to 7mode. Can you help with that?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 5:19 PM, tmac <tmacmd@gmail.commailto:tmacmd@gmail.com> wrote:
The point of 7mtt is to mirror to ONTAP and then cut-over. Yes, it is one way but we have customers doing it quite frequently. It is not a move, it is a SnapMirror (Transition Data Protection or TDP Mirror). As along as the mirror portions finish, cutting over is pretty straight forward.
If something unforeseen happens and a manual cut-over has to happen, so be it. It should not be too difficult.
--tmac
Tim McCarthy, Principal Consultant
Proud Member of the #NetAppATeamhttps://twitter.com/NetAppATeam
I Blog at TMACsRackhttps://tmacsrack.wordpress.com/
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:02 PM Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote: Source is already 7mtt’d but shipping a 7 mode system and need a copy we can run from.
Concerned that if the 7mode system does not make the move well we would have to manually finish 7mtt.
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Tim McCarthy <tmacmd@gmail.commailto:tmacmd@gmail.com> wrote:
Um... Use 7-mode transition tool from the support site
It allows one way TDP mirrors from 7-mode to any ONTAP release up to 9.5
It will not work with 9.6
No need to downgrade. Honestly to do that is a ton of work and not all platforms can go back that far anyway.
Your NetApp sales team really should have informed you about 7MTT.
Get Outlook for iOShttps://aka.ms/o0ukef
________________________________ From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.netmailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 9:57 PM To: toasters@teaparty.netmailto:toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Need to quickly downgrade from 9.5 to 8.2.4
Hello,
We are the middle of move planning and need to snapmirror some 7 Mode data.
The gear we have for the destination is from the factory with 9.5.
The usual netboot is throwing errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
_______________________________________________ Toasters mailing list Toasters@teaparty.netmailto:Toasters@teaparty.net http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters
What is the system? Is it capable of running 7-mode?
--tmac
*Tim McCarthy, **Principal Consultant*
*Proud Member of the #NetAppATeam https://twitter.com/NetAppATeam*
*I Blog at TMACsRack https://tmacsrack.wordpress.com/*
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:35 PM Carolyn Chambers < carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote:
we have an 800TB 7mode system
we have a new OnTap 9 that has a 7mtt replica
the 7mode system is being dismantled and physically moved by truck
about 6 hours away.
- we would like a 7mode snapmirror on a third system that is not being
moved
- we want to use 7mtt cutover tool after the move (based on the customers
availability) and not do it manually in the middle of the move.
We need to downgrade a 9.5 system to 7mode. Can you help with that?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 5:19 PM, tmac tmacmd@gmail.com wrote:
The point of 7mtt is to mirror to ONTAP and then cut-over. Yes, it is one way but we have customers doing it quite frequently. It is not a move, it is a SnapMirror (Transition Data Protection or TDP Mirror). As along as the mirror portions finish, cutting over is pretty straight forward.
If something unforeseen happens and a manual cut-over has to happen, so be it. It should not be too difficult.
--tmac
*Tim McCarthy, **Principal Consultant*
*Proud Member of the #NetAppATeam https://twitter.com/NetAppATeam*
*I Blog at TMACsRack https://tmacsrack.wordpress.com/*
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:02 PM Carolyn Chambers < carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote:
Source is already 7mtt’d but shipping a 7 mode system and need a copy we can run from.
Concerned that if the 7mode system does not make the move well we would have to manually finish 7mtt.
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Tim McCarthy tmacmd@gmail.com wrote:
Um... Use 7-mode transition tool from the support site
It allows one way TDP mirrors from 7-mode to any ONTAP release up to 9.5
It will not work with 9.6
No need to downgrade. Honestly to do that is a ton of work and not all platforms can go back that far anyway.
Your NetApp sales team really should have informed you about 7MTT.
Get Outlook for iOS https://aka.ms/o0ukef
*From:* toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of Carolyn Chambers < carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> *Sent:* Friday, July 5, 2019 9:57 PM *To:* toasters@teaparty.net *Subject:* Need to quickly downgrade from 9.5 to 8.2.4
Hello,
We are the middle of move planning and need to snapmirror some 7 Mode data.
The gear we have for the destination is from the factory with 9.5.
The usual netboot is throwing errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
Toasters mailing list Toasters@teaparty.net http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters
Yes. FAS8060A currently running 9.5.
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 5:37 PM, tmac <tmacmd@gmail.commailto:tmacmd@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the system? Is it capable of running 7-mode?
--tmac
Tim McCarthy, Principal Consultant
Proud Member of the #NetAppATeamhttps://twitter.com/NetAppATeam
I Blog at TMACsRackhttps://tmacsrack.wordpress.com/
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:35 PM Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote: 1) we have an 800TB 7mode system
2) we have a new OnTap 9 that has a 7mtt replica
3) the 7mode system is being dismantled and physically moved by truck about 6 hours away.
4) we would like a 7mode snapmirror on a third system that is not being moved
5) we want to use 7mtt cutover tool after the move (based on the customers availability) and not do it manually in the middle of the move.
We need to downgrade a 9.5 system to 7mode. Can you help with that?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 5:19 PM, tmac <tmacmd@gmail.commailto:tmacmd@gmail.com> wrote:
The point of 7mtt is to mirror to ONTAP and then cut-over. Yes, it is one way but we have customers doing it quite frequently. It is not a move, it is a SnapMirror (Transition Data Protection or TDP Mirror). As along as the mirror portions finish, cutting over is pretty straight forward.
If something unforeseen happens and a manual cut-over has to happen, so be it. It should not be too difficult.
--tmac
Tim McCarthy, Principal Consultant
Proud Member of the #NetAppATeamhttps://twitter.com/NetAppATeam
I Blog at TMACsRackhttps://tmacsrack.wordpress.com/
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:02 PM Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote: Source is already 7mtt’d but shipping a 7 mode system and need a copy we can run from.
Concerned that if the 7mode system does not make the move well we would have to manually finish 7mtt.
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Tim McCarthy <tmacmd@gmail.commailto:tmacmd@gmail.com> wrote:
Um... Use 7-mode transition tool from the support site
It allows one way TDP mirrors from 7-mode to any ONTAP release up to 9.5
It will not work with 9.6
No need to downgrade. Honestly to do that is a ton of work and not all platforms can go back that far anyway.
Your NetApp sales team really should have informed you about 7MTT.
Get Outlook for iOShttps://aka.ms/o0ukef
________________________________ From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.netmailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 9:57 PM To: toasters@teaparty.netmailto:toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Need to quickly downgrade from 9.5 to 8.2.4
Hello,
We are the middle of move planning and need to snapmirror some 7 Mode data.
The gear we have for the destination is from the factory with 9.5.
The usual netboot is throwing errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
_______________________________________________ Toasters mailing list Toasters@teaparty.netmailto:Toasters@teaparty.net http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters
Here are my thoughts on the procedure. As you should know, ONTAP has a minimum requirement for BIOS and SP firmware images. You may wish to work with support to figure how far back you can jump. Referring to https://mysupport.netapp.com/NOW/download/tools/serviceimage/support/ and https://mysupport.netapp.com/NOW/download/tools/serviceimage/support/Service...
The FAS8060 can run BIOS 9.6 from ONTAP 9.0-9.5 The FAS8060 can run BIOS 9.4 from ONTAP 8.2.1 - 9.0
Service-Processor firmware: the FAS8060 can use SP frimware 3.8 / 3.7P1 from ONTAP 9.3 - 9.5 the FAS8060 can use SP frimware 3.4P2 on ONTAP 9.2 releases the FAS8060 can use SP frimware 3.3P5 on ONTAP 9.1 releases
To upgrade/downgrade the SP firmware, as far as I know, you need to at least "install" ONTAP and configure the SP. (give it an IP address)
From there, step backwards a little at a time (unless support gives the
green light for major backwards jumps) I was thinking about procedures, I'd prefer not to post without testing. I do not have any gear to test on either.
High level things: 1. you will need to remove ADP. Doing it in ONTAP 9.2 and higher is easy with the new option 9. 2. You must have whole disks, 7-mode has no concept. 3. The SP firmware should be updated to the version that came with ONTAP. It should auto-downgrade for you 4. You will need to install Appropriate BIOS images They are not auto from what I see.
Hopefully this helps at least a little. It can be done, but be sure, it will be a little painful!
*Tim McCarthy, **Principal Consultant*
*Proud Member of the #NetAppATeam https://twitter.com/NetAppATeam*
*I Blog at TMACsRack https://tmacsrack.wordpress.com/*
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:39 PM Carolyn Chambers < carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote:
Yes. FAS8060A currently running 9.5.
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 5:37 PM, tmac tmacmd@gmail.com wrote:
What is the system? Is it capable of running 7-mode?
--tmac
*Tim McCarthy, **Principal Consultant*
*Proud Member of the #NetAppATeam https://twitter.com/NetAppATeam*
*I Blog at TMACsRack https://tmacsrack.wordpress.com/*
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:35 PM Carolyn Chambers < carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote:
we have an 800TB 7mode system
we have a new OnTap 9 that has a 7mtt replica
the 7mode system is being dismantled and physically moved by truck
about 6 hours away.
- we would like a 7mode snapmirror on a third system that is not being
moved
- we want to use 7mtt cutover tool after the move (based on the
customers availability) and not do it manually in the middle of the move.
We need to downgrade a 9.5 system to 7mode. Can you help with that?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 5:19 PM, tmac tmacmd@gmail.com wrote:
The point of 7mtt is to mirror to ONTAP and then cut-over. Yes, it is one way but we have customers doing it quite frequently. It is not a move, it is a SnapMirror (Transition Data Protection or TDP Mirror). As along as the mirror portions finish, cutting over is pretty straight forward.
If something unforeseen happens and a manual cut-over has to happen, so be it. It should not be too difficult.
--tmac
*Tim McCarthy, **Principal Consultant*
*Proud Member of the #NetAppATeam https://twitter.com/NetAppATeam*
*I Blog at TMACsRack https://tmacsrack.wordpress.com/*
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:02 PM Carolyn Chambers < carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote:
Source is already 7mtt’d but shipping a 7 mode system and need a copy we can run from.
Concerned that if the 7mode system does not make the move well we would have to manually finish 7mtt.
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Tim McCarthy tmacmd@gmail.com wrote:
Um... Use 7-mode transition tool from the support site
It allows one way TDP mirrors from 7-mode to any ONTAP release up to 9.5
It will not work with 9.6
No need to downgrade. Honestly to do that is a ton of work and not all platforms can go back that far anyway.
Your NetApp sales team really should have informed you about 7MTT.
Get Outlook for iOS https://aka.ms/o0ukef
*From:* toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of Carolyn Chambers < carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> *Sent:* Friday, July 5, 2019 9:57 PM *To:* toasters@teaparty.net *Subject:* Need to quickly downgrade from 9.5 to 8.2.4
Hello,
We are the middle of move planning and need to snapmirror some 7 Mode data.
The gear we have for the destination is from the factory with 9.5.
The usual netboot is throwing errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
Toasters mailing list Toasters@teaparty.net http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters
Carolyn –
I’m in complete agreement with TMac here, however to simplify matters on your end I would suggest finding/reaching out to a vendor that can stage and rent you some swing gear (controllers/storage) as this would save you both time and aggravation as well as eliminating the need for at least two outage/maintenance windows during your transition from 7-Mode -> CDOT. Just a thought, mind you, but in this instance I think the cost to have swing gear prepared in advance for you and the price of a short term rental would end up saving you both time and money on the operational end of things.
Anthony Bar 650.207.5368tel:650.207.5368 tbar@berkcom.commailto:tbar@berkcom.com Berkeley Communications www.berkcom.comhttp://www.berkcom.com/
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net toasters-bounces@teaparty.net On Behalf Of tmac Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 3:07 AM To: Carolyn Chambers carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com Cc: toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: Need to quickly downgrade from 9.5 to 8.2.4
Here are my thoughts on the procedure. As you should know, ONTAP has a minimum requirement for BIOS and SP firmware images. You may wish to work with support to figure how far back you can jump. Referring to https://mysupport.netapp.com/NOW/download/tools/serviceimage/support/ and https://mysupport.netapp.com/NOW/download/tools/serviceimage/support/Service...
The FAS8060 can run BIOS 9.6 from ONTAP 9.0-9.5 The FAS8060 can run BIOS 9.4 from ONTAP 8.2.1 - 9.0
Service-Processor firmware: the FAS8060 can use SP frimware 3.8 / 3.7P1 from ONTAP 9.3 - 9.5 the FAS8060 can use SP frimware 3.4P2 on ONTAP 9.2 releases the FAS8060 can use SP frimware 3.3P5 on ONTAP 9.1 releases
To upgrade/downgrade the SP firmware, as far as I know, you need to at least "install" ONTAP and configure the SP. (give it an IP address)
From there, step backwards a little at a time (unless support gives the green light for major backwards jumps) I was thinking about procedures, I'd prefer not to post without testing. I do not have any gear to test on either.
High level things: 1. you will need to remove ADP. Doing it in ONTAP 9.2 and higher is easy with the new option 9. 2. You must have whole disks, 7-mode has no concept. 3. The SP firmware should be updated to the version that came with ONTAP. It should auto-downgrade for you 4. You will need to install Appropriate BIOS images They are not auto from what I see.
Hopefully this helps at least a little. It can be done, but be sure, it will be a little painful!
Tim McCarthy, Principal Consultant
Proud Member of the #NetAppATeamhttps://twitter.com/NetAppATeam
I Blog at TMACsRackhttps://tmacsrack.wordpress.com/
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:39 PM Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote: Yes. FAS8060A currently running 9.5. Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 5:37 PM, tmac <tmacmd@gmail.commailto:tmacmd@gmail.com> wrote: What is the system? Is it capable of running 7-mode?
--tmac
Tim McCarthy, Principal Consultant
Proud Member of the #NetAppATeamhttps://twitter.com/NetAppATeam
I Blog at TMACsRackhttps://tmacsrack.wordpress.com/
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:35 PM Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote: 1) we have an 800TB 7mode system
2) we have a new OnTap 9 that has a 7mtt replica
3) the 7mode system is being dismantled and physically moved by truck about 6 hours away.
4) we would like a 7mode snapmirror on a third system that is not being moved
5) we want to use 7mtt cutover tool after the move (based on the customers availability) and not do it manually in the middle of the move.
We need to downgrade a 9.5 system to 7mode. Can you help with that?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 5:19 PM, tmac <tmacmd@gmail.commailto:tmacmd@gmail.com> wrote: The point of 7mtt is to mirror to ONTAP and then cut-over. Yes, it is one way but we have customers doing it quite frequently. It is not a move, it is a SnapMirror (Transition Data Protection or TDP Mirror). As along as the mirror portions finish, cutting over is pretty straight forward.
If something unforeseen happens and a manual cut-over has to happen, so be it. It should not be too difficult.
--tmac
Tim McCarthy, Principal Consultant
Proud Member of the #NetAppATeamhttps://twitter.com/NetAppATeam
I Blog at TMACsRackhttps://tmacsrack.wordpress.com/
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:02 PM Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote: Source is already 7mtt’d but shipping a 7 mode system and need a copy we can run from.
Concerned that if the 7mode system does not make the move well we would have to manually finish 7mtt. Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Tim McCarthy <tmacmd@gmail.commailto:tmacmd@gmail.com> wrote: Um... Use 7-mode transition tool from the support site
It allows one way TDP mirrors from 7-mode to any ONTAP release up to 9.5
It will not work with 9.6
No need to downgrade. Honestly to do that is a ton of work and not all platforms can go back that far anyway.
Your NetApp sales team really should have informed you about 7MTT.
Get Outlook for iOShttps://aka.ms/o0ukef
________________________________ From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.netmailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 9:57 PM To: toasters@teaparty.netmailto:toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Need to quickly downgrade from 9.5 to 8.2.4
Hello,
We are the middle of move planning and need to snapmirror some 7 Mode data.
The gear we have for the destination is from the factory with 9.5.
The usual netboot is throwing errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
_______________________________________________ Toasters mailing list Toasters@teaparty.netmailto:Toasters@teaparty.net http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters
I had similar problem when I needed to downgrade Data ONTAP (both versions 7-Mode). I had to downgrade firmware to version listed in compatibility matrix for target DOT.
It is possible to do from LOADER prompt but description falls under non-disclosure. May be someone from NetApp could help you with this.
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6 июля 2019 г., в 1:45, Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> написал(а):
Yes. FAS8060A currently running 9.5.
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 5:37 PM, tmac <tmacmd@gmail.commailto:tmacmd@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the system? Is it capable of running 7-mode?
--tmac
Tim McCarthy, Principal Consultant
Proud Member of the #NetAppATeamhttps://twitter.com/NetAppATeam
I Blog at TMACsRackhttps://tmacsrack.wordpress.com/
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:35 PM Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote: 1) we have an 800TB 7mode system
2) we have a new OnTap 9 that has a 7mtt replica
3) the 7mode system is being dismantled and physically moved by truck about 6 hours away.
4) we would like a 7mode snapmirror on a third system that is not being moved
5) we want to use 7mtt cutover tool after the move (based on the customers availability) and not do it manually in the middle of the move.
We need to downgrade a 9.5 system to 7mode. Can you help with that?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 5:19 PM, tmac <tmacmd@gmail.commailto:tmacmd@gmail.com> wrote:
The point of 7mtt is to mirror to ONTAP and then cut-over. Yes, it is one way but we have customers doing it quite frequently. It is not a move, it is a SnapMirror (Transition Data Protection or TDP Mirror). As along as the mirror portions finish, cutting over is pretty straight forward.
If something unforeseen happens and a manual cut-over has to happen, so be it. It should not be too difficult.
--tmac
Tim McCarthy, Principal Consultant
Proud Member of the #NetAppATeamhttps://twitter.com/NetAppATeam
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On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:02 PM Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote: Source is already 7mtt’d but shipping a 7 mode system and need a copy we can run from.
Concerned that if the 7mode system does not make the move well we would have to manually finish 7mtt.
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Tim McCarthy <tmacmd@gmail.commailto:tmacmd@gmail.com> wrote:
Um... Use 7-mode transition tool from the support site
It allows one way TDP mirrors from 7-mode to any ONTAP release up to 9.5
It will not work with 9.6
No need to downgrade. Honestly to do that is a ton of work and not all platforms can go back that far anyway.
Your NetApp sales team really should have informed you about 7MTT.
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________________________________ From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.netmailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 9:57 PM To: toasters@teaparty.netmailto:toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Need to quickly downgrade from 9.5 to 8.2.4
Hello,
We are the middle of move planning and need to snapmirror some 7 Mode data.
The gear we have for the destination is from the factory with 9.5.
The usual netboot is throwing errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
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7mtt is really the way to go in this situation. 7mtt is really only creating and managing the schedules for the SnapMirror TDP copy jobs from the 8.1.4P10+> destination cluster system. I’m pretty sure that it supports migrating from any 7-mode system runnin 8.1.4P10 or higher (up to 8.2.4PX) to any current GA release of ONTAP CMode (and there are tricks to make it work with newer, non-GA releases too (9.6RC1) which NetApp support can tell you about if you open a case with them (sorry, not going to disclose this on an open forum.)
If you’re looking for a tertiary copy “just in case” something happens when you’re physically moving components have you considered setting up a clustered volumes ONTAP with AWS/Azure when you’re done with the cluster upgrade in the interim while the DR equipment is en-route?
Anthony Bar 650.207.5368tel:650.207.5368 tbar@berkcom.commailto:tbar@berkcom.com Berkeley Communications www.berkcom.comhttp://www.berkcom.com/
On Jul 5, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote:
Source is already 7mtt’d but shipping a 7 mode system and need a copy we can run from.
Concerned that if the 7mode system does not make the move well we would have to manually finish 7mtt.
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Tim McCarthy <tmacmd@gmail.commailto:tmacmd@gmail.com> wrote:
Um... Use 7-mode transition tool from the support site
It allows one way TDP mirrors from 7-mode to any ONTAP release up to 9.5
It will not work with 9.6
No need to downgrade. Honestly to do that is a ton of work and not all platforms can go back that far anyway.
Your NetApp sales team really should have informed you about 7MTT.
Get Outlook for iOShttps://aka.ms/o0ukef
________________________________ From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.netmailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of Carolyn Chambers <carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.commailto:carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 9:57 PM To: toasters@teaparty.netmailto:toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Need to quickly downgrade from 9.5 to 8.2.4
Hello,
We are the middle of move planning and need to snapmirror some 7 Mode data.
The gear we have for the destination is from the factory with 9.5.
The usual netboot is throwing errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
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I do not think you can come back to 9.5 to 8.2.4 as far as on the head OS is concerned. I remember to upgrade the head from 8.2.4 there are two or three inbetween versions we have to go to reach to 9.5. I might be wrong , i would also like to know.
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 5:42 PM Tony Bar tbar@berkcom.com wrote:
7mtt is really the way to go in this situation. 7mtt is really only creating and managing the schedules for the SnapMirror TDP copy jobs from the 8.1.4P10+> destination cluster system. I’m pretty sure that it supports migrating from any 7-mode system runnin 8.1.4P10 or higher (up to 8.2.4P*X*) to any current GA release of ONTAP CMode (and there are tricks to make it work with newer, non-GA releases too (9.6RC1) which NetApp support can tell you about if you open a case with them (sorry, not going to disclose this on an open forum.)
If you’re looking for a tertiary copy “just in case” something happens when you’re physically moving components have you considered setting up a clustered volumes ONTAP with AWS/Azure when you’re done with the cluster upgrade in the interim while the DR equipment is en-route?
*Anthony Bar*
650.207.5368
tbar@berkcom.com
*Berkeley Communications*
www.berkcom.com
On Jul 5, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Carolyn Chambers < carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote:
Source is already 7mtt’d but shipping a 7 mode system and need a copy we can run from.
Concerned that if the 7mode system does not make the move well we would have to manually finish 7mtt.
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Tim McCarthy tmacmd@gmail.com wrote:
Um... Use 7-mode transition tool from the support site
It allows one way TDP mirrors from 7-mode to any ONTAP release up to 9.5
It will not work with 9.6
No need to downgrade. Honestly to do that is a ton of work and not all platforms can go back that far anyway.
Your NetApp sales team really should have informed you about 7MTT.
Get Outlook for iOS https://aka.ms/o0ukef
*From:* toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of Carolyn Chambers < carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> *Sent:* Friday, July 5, 2019 9:57 PM *To:* toasters@teaparty.net *Subject:* Need to quickly downgrade from 9.5 to 8.2.4
Hello,
We are the middle of move planning and need to snapmirror some 7 Mode data.
The gear we have for the destination is from the factory with 9.5.
The usual netboot is throwing errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
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On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 6:19 PM Jovan Himal uregmi111@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think you can come back to 9.5 to 8.2.4 as far as on the head OS is concerned. I remember to upgrade the head from 8.2.4 there are two or three inbetween versions we have to go to reach to 9.5. I might be wrong , i would also like to know.
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 5:42 PM Tony Bar tbar@berkcom.com wrote:
7mtt is really the way to go in this situation. 7mtt is really only creating and managing the schedules for the SnapMirror TDP copy jobs from the 8.1.4P10+> destination cluster system. I’m pretty sure that it supports migrating from any 7-mode system runnin 8.1.4P10 or higher (up to 8.2.4P*X*) to any current GA release of ONTAP CMode (and there are tricks to make it work with newer, non-GA releases too (9.6RC1) which NetApp support can tell you about if you open a case with them (sorry, not going to disclose this on an open forum.)
If you’re looking for a tertiary copy “just in case” something happens when you’re physically moving components have you considered setting up a clustered volumes ONTAP with AWS/Azure when you’re done with the cluster upgrade in the interim while the DR equipment is en-route?
*Anthony Bar*
650.207.5368
tbar@berkcom.com
*Berkeley Communications*
www.berkcom.com
On Jul 5, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Carolyn Chambers < carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> wrote:
Source is already 7mtt’d but shipping a 7 mode system and need a copy we can run from.
Concerned that if the 7mode system does not make the move well we would have to manually finish 7mtt.
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
On Jul 5, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Tim McCarthy tmacmd@gmail.com wrote:
Um... Use 7-mode transition tool from the support site
It allows one way TDP mirrors from 7-mode to any ONTAP release up to 9.5
It will not work with 9.6
No need to downgrade. Honestly to do that is a ton of work and not all platforms can go back that far anyway.
Your NetApp sales team really should have informed you about 7MTT.
Get Outlook for iOS https://aka.ms/o0ukef
*From:* toasters-bounces@teaparty.net on behalf of Carolyn Chambers < carolyn.chambers@storageassessments.com> *Sent:* Friday, July 5, 2019 9:57 PM *To:* toasters@teaparty.net *Subject:* Need to quickly downgrade from 9.5 to 8.2.4
Hello,
We are the middle of move planning and need to snapmirror some 7 Mode data.
The gear we have for the destination is from the factory with 9.5.
The usual netboot is throwing errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Carolyn
972.578.2708
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"Jovan" == Jovan Himal uregmi111@gmail.com writes:
Jovan> I do not think you can come back to 9.5 to 8.2.4 as far as on Jovan> the head OS is concerned. I remember to upgrade the head from Jovan> 8.2.4 there are two or three inbetween versions we have to go Jovan> to reach to 9.5. I might be wrong , i would also like to know.
I would think you could boot a FAS8060 into 7-mode if you really wanted to, but you might have to downgrade the BIOS as well... which seems tricky and not really supported.
Carolyn,
Can you give more details of the heads you're trying to downgrade? And what errors you're seeing? You might need to wipe the system completely from a low level and then netboot an image to make this work.
An interesting case for sure.
John
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