The funny thing is that rdfile is as tame as it gets from a command standpoint, and does not require priv set advance (rc_toggle_basic). I also wonder how many Netapp owners do not know about the "hidden" commands? So, if the intention is to keep us from messing up by using such, maybe they should have used a more complex "secret handshake".
--sam
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Blackmor [mailto:chris.blackmor@amd.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:21 PM To: Mike Horwath Cc: Chris Blackmor; Ben Rockwood; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: Hidden Commands?
rc_toggle_basic
Is that what you are looking for? C-
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:18:15PM -0600, Mike Horwath wrote:
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:02:53PM -0600, Chris Blackmor wrote:
There are a bunch of "ninja" commands (as NetApp calls them). These can be powerful and very destructive so they aren't broadcast like normal commands. Some require you to "priv set advanced".
I think they don't tell all because they are afraid of having to help pick up the pieces. ;)
That version of the command doesn't work with OnTap 5.3.6R2 or below for sure.
(and damned if I can remember the command for the lower revisions)
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Agreed. Maybe because wrfile is not too far away from rdfile. Both have saved my butt in the past. I am just spewing what I was told by NAC support in the past. I think they like us to attend the 201 class before they make those commands more visible. C-
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:05:39PM -0800, Sam Schorr wrote:
The funny thing is that rdfile is as tame as it gets from a command standpoint, and does not require priv set advance (rc_toggle_basic). I also wonder how many Netapp owners do not know about the "hidden" commands? So, if the intention is to keep us from messing up by using such, maybe they should have used a more complex "secret handshake".
--sam
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Blackmor [mailto:chris.blackmor@amd.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:21 PM To: Mike Horwath Cc: Chris Blackmor; Ben Rockwood; toasters@mathworks.com Subject: Re: Hidden Commands?
rc_toggle_basic
Is that what you are looking for? C-
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:18:15PM -0600, Mike Horwath wrote:
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:02:53PM -0600, Chris Blackmor wrote:
There are a bunch of "ninja" commands (as NetApp calls them). These can be powerful and very destructive so they aren't broadcast like normal commands. Some require you to "priv set advanced".
I think they don't tell all because they are afraid of having to help pick up the pieces. ;)
That version of the command doesn't work with OnTap 5.3.6R2 or below for sure.
(and damned if I can remember the command for the lower revisions)
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Schorr" sschorr@homestead-inc.com To: "Chris Blackmor" chris.blackmor@amd.com; "Mike Horwath" drechsau@tiny.net Cc: "Ben Rockwood" BRockwood@homestead-inc.com; toasters@mathworks.com Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:05 PM Subject: RE: Hidden Commands?
The funny thing is that rdfile is as tame as it gets from a command
standpoint, and does not require priv set advance (rc_toggle_basic).
rdfile may not be all that tame, though. Does it respect proper locking? Does it use the buffers correctly? Does it update atime? Is the access logged? Is it multi-threaded? Etc. It's probably not thoroughly tested with each release, either. The questions are rhetorical because the point is if it's not properly supported and documented there's really little guarantee things won't change and next release the command might not exist, might not work, or might even crash the filer.
Bruce
Good point Bruce. As with anything else... let the sysadmin beware. C-
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:41:45PM -0800, Bruce Sterling Woodcock wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Schorr" sschorr@homestead-inc.com To: "Chris Blackmor" chris.blackmor@amd.com; "Mike Horwath" drechsau@tiny.net Cc: "Ben Rockwood" BRockwood@homestead-inc.com; toasters@mathworks.com Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:05 PM Subject: RE: Hidden Commands?
The funny thing is that rdfile is as tame as it gets from a command
standpoint, and does not require priv set advance (rc_toggle_basic).
rdfile may not be all that tame, though. Does it respect proper locking? Does it use the buffers correctly? Does it update atime? Is the access logged? Is it multi-threaded? Etc. It's probably not thoroughly tested with each release, either. The questions are rhetorical because the point is if it's not properly supported and documented there's really little guarantee things won't change and next release the command might not exist, might not work, or might even crash the filer.
Bruce
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