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Re: Steven Wells' comments re: NetApp's Software Licensing Policies
by ScottUCE＠aol.com 13 Apr '01

13 Apr '01

In a message dated 4/12/01 6:53:57 PM Central Daylight Time, steven.wells(a)netapp.com writes: > If you are considering used equipment please read and understand the software > licensing and support policies first. Steven Wells' advice is EXTRAORDINARILY valuable if you are buying ANY NetApp equipment, NEW or USED. If your company factors any consideration of equipment re-sale value into its purchasing decisions, you would be well-advised to insist that Network Appliance agree to a simple modification of its standard software license agreement before you hand them a purchase order for your next filer. Otherwise, should your company ever be in a position where it needs to sell its NetApp gear -- as many companies, for example, are currently being forced to do with their newer F760s and F840s -- the wholesale value of your system will be about TEN CENTS ON THE DOLLAR as soon as it leaves NetApp's shipping dock. BTW, when Union Computer advertises used NetApp filers with transferable software licenses, it is because the systems carry software license agreements which NetApp's legal department has, in fact, agreed to modify in order to allow the free transfer of the software with re-sale of the system. Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 scott(a)unioncomputer.com

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RE: NetApp 4gb/9gb/18gb/36gb disks/shelves, spares kits, adaptor
by Andrew Siegel 13 Apr '01

13 Apr '01

If you are considering purchasing NEW NetApp equipment, insist on a transferable software license IN WRITING before handing over that PO. Without said license your machine is worth only a fraction of its actual value on the resale market. -- Andrew Siegel Head of Systems Blue Sky Studios, Inc. abs(a)blueskystudios.com Steven Wells wrote: > > If you are considering used equipment please read and understand the software licensing and support policies first. > > http://www.netapp.com/support/ues.html > > -Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:58 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: FS: NetApp 4gb/9gb/18gb/36gb disks/shelves, spares kits, > adaptor cards > > > Please contact us for great pricing on the NetApp items listed below; most > hardware is eligible for NetApp service contract or for extended warranties > from Union Computer. > > 4gb SCSI drives and shelves > 9gb FC-AL and SCSI drives and shelves > 18gb FC-AL drives and shelves (FC8) > 36gb FC-AL drives and shelves > Spares kits and spare parts for F330, F520, F630, F720-C720, F740, and > F760 filers > Ethernet adaptor cards (GB, Quad, 10/100) > SCSI adaptor cards > FC-AL adaptor cards > ATM adaptor cards > > Several F760 systems with transferable software licenses are also available. > > Scott Fischmann > Union Computer Exchange, Inc. > 6233 Idylwood Lane > Minneapolis, MN 55436 > Phone: 952 935 7282 > scott(a)unioncomputer.com >

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RE: NetApp 4gb/9gb/18gb/36gb disks/shelves, spares kits, adaptor cards
by Wells, Steven 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

If you are considering used equipment please read and understand the software licensing and support policies first. http://www.netapp.com/support/ues.html -Steve -----Original Message----- From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:58 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: FS: NetApp 4gb/9gb/18gb/36gb disks/shelves, spares kits, adaptor cards Please contact us for great pricing on the NetApp items listed below; most hardware is eligible for NetApp service contract or for extended warranties from Union Computer. 4gb SCSI drives and shelves 9gb FC-AL and SCSI drives and shelves 18gb FC-AL drives and shelves (FC8) 36gb FC-AL drives and shelves Spares kits and spare parts for F330, F520, F630, F720-C720, F740, and F760 filers Ethernet adaptor cards (GB, Quad, 10/100) SCSI adaptor cards FC-AL adaptor cards ATM adaptor cards Several F760 systems with transferable software licenses are also available. Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 scott(a)unioncomputer.com

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RE: Excluding files from NDMP backup
by Tom "Mad Dog" Yergeau 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

How about if you wanted to back up A and B to one tape drive, and C,D,E to another? Could you allow multiple data streams and then SET EXCLUDE = C,D,E /vol/vol1 SET EXCLUDE = A,B /vol/vol1 ? Thanks, Tom -----Original Message----- From: Roth, William [mailto:William.Roth@netapp.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:45 PM To: 'Justen, Joel'; 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Excluding files from NDMP backup Joel, Actually, setting the EXCLUDE environmental variable within a NetBackup file list does work, but necessarily the way you might think it works. Here's an example: The subject volume, /vol/vol1, consists of five subdirectories, not contained in quota trees. The five subdirectories are A, B, C, D, and E. To back up only the A and B subdirectories, the file list would look like this; SET EXCLUDE = C,D,E /vol/vol1 In this example, the /vol/vol1/C, /vol/vol1/D, and /vol/vol1/E subdirectories are not dumped to tape. Thanks, Bill Roth -----Original Message----- From: Justen, Joel [mailto:Justen@Budd.ThyssenKrupp.Com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:22 AM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Excluding files from NDMP backup I never saw an answer to this on this mailing list and I just figured it out for myself so I thought I'd answer it. To exclude files using Veritas you have to use a directive like follows: SET EXCLUDE=*.PST This directive is passed directly to the NDMP process and is ignored by Netbackup. Joel Justen > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd C. Merrill [mailto:tmerrill@mathworks.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 5:33 PM > To: Tom "Mad Dog" Yergeau > Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > Subject: Re: Excluding files from NDMP backup > > > On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Tom "Mad Dog" Yergeau wrote: > > > Is there a way to exclude files from an NDMP backup? By > this I'm asking both > > (1) A subdirectory of a volume or qtree that's being backed up > > (2) Files with specific extensions (e.g. *.pst files so you > don't back up > > Exchange email archives) > > > > We're using Veritas NetBackup 3.4. > > I'd very much appreciate knowing if this was possible, too. I'm > using gtar with the --exclude-from=FILE option because it's faster for > me to backup 25-35% of the useful data via NFS than 100% of > the data via > NDMP. > ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this E-mail in error please notify the system manager. This foot- note also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper in accordance with The Budd Company E-Mail Policy. **********************************************************************

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RE: Excluding files from NDMP backup
by Roth, William 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

Joel, Actually, setting the EXCLUDE environmental variable within a NetBackup file list does work, but necessarily the way you might think it works. Here's an example: The subject volume, /vol/vol1, consists of five subdirectories, not contained in quota trees. The five subdirectories are A, B, C, D, and E. To back up only the A and B subdirectories, the file list would look like this; SET EXCLUDE = C,D,E /vol/vol1 In this example, the /vol/vol1/C, /vol/vol1/D, and /vol/vol1/E subdirectories are not dumped to tape. Thanks, Bill Roth -----Original Message----- From: Justen, Joel [mailto:Justen@Budd.ThyssenKrupp.Com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:22 AM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Excluding files from NDMP backup I never saw an answer to this on this mailing list and I just figured it out for myself so I thought I'd answer it. To exclude files using Veritas you have to use a directive like follows: SET EXCLUDE=*.PST This directive is passed directly to the NDMP process and is ignored by Netbackup. Joel Justen > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd C. Merrill [mailto:tmerrill@mathworks.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 5:33 PM > To: Tom "Mad Dog" Yergeau > Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > Subject: Re: Excluding files from NDMP backup > > > On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Tom "Mad Dog" Yergeau wrote: > > > Is there a way to exclude files from an NDMP backup? By > this I'm asking both > > (1) A subdirectory of a volume or qtree that's being backed up > > (2) Files with specific extensions (e.g. *.pst files so you > don't back up > > Exchange email archives) > > > > We're using Veritas NetBackup 3.4. > > I'd very much appreciate knowing if this was possible, too. I'm > using gtar with the --exclude-from=FILE option because it's faster for > me to backup 25-35% of the useful data via NFS than 100% of > the data via > NDMP. > ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this E-mail in error please notify the system manager. This foot- note also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper in accordance with The Budd Company E-Mail Policy. **********************************************************************

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NIS/Passwd lookup order
by Rainchik, Aleksandr (MED, Non GE) 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

Hello, Is there a way to let filer lookup user info in /etc/passwd first and then in NIS passwd map. To emulate this Solaris behavior # cat /etc/nsswitch.con ... passwd: files nis ... I have a feeling that as soon as you say nis.enable=1 it just stops using /etc/passwd... -- Aleksandr Rainchik

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Re: NIS/Passwd lookup order
by Don Cunningham 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

The NetApp does support a /etc/nsswitch.conf file. We use it to do exactly what you suggest. I'm not sure which version first supported this but it's been available for quite a while. Don Cunningham > From: neil lehrer <nlehrer(a)ibb.gov> > > you can set that from filerview, so it must be setable as an option somewhere. > > "Rainchik, Aleksandr (MED, Non GE)" wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Is there a way to let filer lookup user info in /etc/passwd first and > > then in > > NIS passwd map. To emulate this Solaris behavior > > > > # cat /etc/nsswitch.con > > ... > > passwd: files nis > > ... > > I have a feeling that as soon as you say nis.enable=1 it just stops > > using /etc/passwd... > > > > -- Aleksandr Rainchik > > -- > > > regards > > +

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Re: restoring veritas NDMP backup with restore
by Steve Kappel 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

>Does anyone know how to restore a Veritas NetBackup NDMP backup using >restore (or ufsrestore)? > >Its quite easy with a single tape backup (you do a "mt -f nrst0a fsf 1; >mt -f nrst0a fsr 2" to skip over the Veritas header). But after >skipping the header on a second tape, the format doesn't seem to be the >same as a normal dump continuation tape. On the second tape you "fsr 1" instead of 2. The entire NDMP image is encapsulated in a tar header and trailer. Each tape file has a leading file header. Each tape has a tape label. At the beginning you are skipping the tape label file skipping the file header and tar header On the 2..N tapes you need to skip the tape label file skip the file header __________________________________________________________________________ Steve Kappel steve.kappel(a)veritas.com VERITAS Software steve(a)stevekappel.com (Personal)

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RE: Excluding files from NDMP backup
by Justen, Joel 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

I never saw an answer to this on this mailing list and I just figured it out for myself so I thought I'd answer it. To exclude files using Veritas you have to use a directive like follows: SET EXCLUDE=*.PST This directive is passed directly to the NDMP process and is ignored by Netbackup. Joel Justen > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd C. Merrill [mailto:tmerrill@mathworks.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 5:33 PM > To: Tom "Mad Dog" Yergeau > Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > Subject: Re: Excluding files from NDMP backup > > > On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Tom "Mad Dog" Yergeau wrote: > > > Is there a way to exclude files from an NDMP backup? By > this I'm asking both > > (1) A subdirectory of a volume or qtree that's being backed up > > (2) Files with specific extensions (e.g. *.pst files so you > don't back up > > Exchange email archives) > > > > We're using Veritas NetBackup 3.4. > > I'd very much appreciate knowing if this was possible, too. I'm > using gtar with the --exclude-from=FILE option because it's faster for > me to backup 25-35% of the useful data via NFS than 100% of > the data via > NDMP. > ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this E-mail in error please notify the system manager. This foot- note also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper in accordance with The Budd Company E-Mail Policy. **********************************************************************

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FS: NetApp 4gb/9gb/18gb/36gb disks/shelves, spares kits, adaptor cards
by ScottUCE＠aol.com 12 Apr '01

12 Apr '01

Please contact us for great pricing on the NetApp items listed below; most hardware is eligible for NetApp service contract or for extended warranties from Union Computer. 4gb SCSI drives and shelves 9gb FC-AL and SCSI drives and shelves 18gb FC-AL drives and shelves (FC8) 36gb FC-AL drives and shelves Spares kits and spare parts for F330, F520, F630, F720-C720, F740, and F760 filers Ethernet adaptor cards (GB, Quad, 10/100) SCSI adaptor cards FC-AL adaptor cards ATM adaptor cards Several F760 systems with transferable software licenses are also available. Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 scott(a)unioncomputer.com

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