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User triggered autosupport
by Kennard, Dave M SSI-ISEL-31 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

Has anyone ever had a problem with manual autosupports? (filer> option autosupport.doit subject) If I do a manual autosupport from the box it hangs up and does not respond (NT Shares, Telnet, RSH) for about 5 to 10 minutes the only connection that works id the Serial / Console port then the filer comes back on the network by itself. Anyone seen anything like that before? I have an F840 running OnTAP 6.0.1r3 with only CIFS installed. Dave M. Kennard.

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Win2K Sync Question
by Honeycutt, Michael 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

Anyone noticed any problems with a Win2K Pro workstation trying to syncronize drives to a filer. I have an F840 running DOT6.1 and several people get sync errors. I noticed its only when trying to sync home drives on our filer, doesnt do when syncing to the NT servers. Thanks. Michael Honeycutt MCSE/A+ Systems Engineer IBM Global Services

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RE: Microsoft Cluster Server and Netapps
by White, Lance 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

Legato Cluster has supported NT4/W2K since 1998. Latest version does registry update monitoring. I've done this in an Active-Active mode, but it doesn take some careful thought in architecting the data patterns, might not be for the faint-at-heart. Lance -----Original Message----- From: Brian Tao [mailto:taob@risc.org] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 6:03 AM To: Jack Verdirame Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Cluster Server and Netapps On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Jack Verdirame wrote: > > If you want a "free clustering service", if you consider buying > another machine and MS license Free, with a Active-Passive type > implementation go with MSCS. So MSCS does not support active-active clustering with shared storage and shared IP? The docs I've skimmed aren't particularly clear on this point. I do remember playing with a load balancing feature within W2K which would seem to work very well for a farm of IIS servers, all sharing content from a common filesystem on a Netapp. Probably won't work for SQL or Exchange though. > http://www.integratus.com/ are a good place to start. This looks interesting... Solaris, Linux and FreeBSD support (which is the bulk of the servers we run), but no NT/2K yet, unfortunately. Thanks for the pointer. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"

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Microsoft Cluster Server and Netapps
by Brian Tao 21 Jun '01

21 Jun '01

First thing I'll say is that I know almost nothing about the way Windows NT or 2000 works, and when someone tries to explain it to me, I always wonder why a simpler and more direct UNIX-like approach wasn't used. But anyway... :) Is anyone using Netapps as a data storage backend for MSCS-aware applications? I've read the white paper on SQL Server 7 and MSCS at http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3084.html, but do those principles apply to any clustered application? I read Microsoft's own MSCS FAQ, and although it starts off saying it needs a shared storage backend, it goes on to mention only shared SCSI devices... nothing about FibreChannel or CIFS. It also needs a shared "quorum" disk, which somehow allows MSCS to determine which servers in the cluster are down (but the FAQ doesn't say how exactly the negotiation is done). More specifically, has anyone deployed the e-Assist suite of CRM applications on filer backends? The vendors says they use MSCS for clustering, and recommend local RAID storage for all the servers. Given that they say 35 dual-CPU servers are needed to handle 1000 users (ridiculous, but that's another story), I'm not particularly thrilled to have to maintain locally-attached storage for all of them, and I would rather take advantage of the existing pair of F740s. Hoping someone can help me differentiate conventional wisdom ("you can't run databases on NAS") from true wisdom ("sure you can, if you set things up right") when it comes to NT/2000 clustering... thanks. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"

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Data ONTAP 6.1 & Budtool 4.6.1
by Audrey Reed 20 Jun '01

20 Jun '01

Is anyone running DataONTAP 6.1 and backing it up (via ndmp) with Budtool 4.6.1 (either over the network or direct connected)? Any comments? If it matters, this is on a F760. Regards, Audrey

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Solaris as ndmp server?
by Jeff Kennedy 20 Jun '01

20 Jun '01

Is there software that will run on Solaris and allow it to use ndmp? I am trying to migrate some data from a NetApp to a SAN box and would like to use ndmpcopy from the filer to the Solaris server instead of rsync. The reason for this migration is vendor driven and not negotiable. Thanks. -- ===================== Jeff Kennedy Unix Administrator AMCC jlkennedy(a)amcc.com

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RE: Configuring Netbackup for NDMP 3.4
by Chitre, Amol 18 Jun '01

18 Jun '01

Hi Jan, I think this is a problem with setting up the NDMP connection. First... is matterhorn reachable from the client where Veritas is installed? Try the ping command. Next, could you verify that the password for user root on the filer is indeed the same as what is registered with veritas? If not, reconfigure Veritas set_ndmp_attr. To help debug further, run the command "ndmpd debug 50" on the filer console. Now run the set_ndmp_attr -verify again. See if you get any ndmp logs printed on the console. If you do, the NDMP connection/authentication is fine. And we can proceed to the robot. Let me know if you need more help or run into more trouble :-). Thanks, Amol. PS: once you are done, you may switch the ndmpd debug mode off with the command... filer> ndmpd debug 0 >-----Original Message----- >From: Schepers, Jan [mailto:Jan.Schepers@atosorigin.com] >Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 4:12 AM >To: toasters(a)mathworks.com >Subject: Configuring Netbackup for NDMP 3.4 > > >Hello folks, > > >using Networker 3.4 on a HP9000/J6000 and a F85 netapp NDMP host. >I authorosize access to the NDMP host as follows: > > set_ndmp_attr -auth matterhorn root > >after which I'm asked to give me the password (twice). >The command > > set_ndmp_attr -list > >suggest that every thing went okay > > Record Type: Authentication > NDMP Server: matterhorn > Username : root > Password : <registered> > > Record Type: Robotic Information > NDMP Server: matterhorn > Device : spt0 > Controller : 5 > SCSI Id : 1 > SCSI LUN : 0 > >But real verification fails: > > set_ndmp_attr -verify matterhorn > > > Connecting to host "matterhorn" as user "root"... > Failed > set_ndmp_attr: host "matterhorn" failed > set_ndmp_attr: unable to continue > >What's cooking? and what should I do to repair? > >rgds, > >YS >

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Qtree Utilization Alerts
by Dale Wolf 18 Jun '01

18 Jun '01

I am looking for a tool to send alerts in the form of email or NT alerts when a Qtree reaches some threshold or percentage (say 80%) of it's quota. I want to be able to extract or construct the alert only for certain Qtrees. Our Qtree naming standard makes it simple to identify an NTFS Qtree. I've thought about automatically generating the Qtree report and writing a tool to parse the information out of the report and generate any alerts needed. Any tools or suggestions are welcome. Thanks.

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Re: SV: legato netapp client
by Davin Milun 18 Jun '01

18 Jun '01

We have similar performance problems with the Legato NetApp client. The NetApp's that we're backing up this was are old F520's, and we get no more that about 1.2MB/sec during backups (but get easily over 6MB/s during regular heavy I/O). Looking at mrtg graphs of the filer during backups has shown the problem: CPU. While these Legato dumps are running, the CPU is held about 95% busy! Since we only use Unix/NFS mounts off the filers, we're about to start backing up by NFS mounts to our backups host. We'll try ndmp at a later stage. Davin. -- Davin Milun Juno Online Services, Inc. milun(a)staff.juno.com http://www.juno.com/ At 10:43, on Jun 18, 2001, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_S=F8nder?= wrote: > Hi Peter, > > We are using the legato netapp client on our filers, and have been doing it > for a while - primarely because it then acts like any other client to our > Legato Server. > My expereience is a bit mixed - it's working allright, I can do redirectied > recover of it's data or recover dirctly to the filer, my problem is 1) > speed: It's attached to my LAN via a 100MBit full duplex interface, but I > only get about 5MB/sek; Im not sure where the problem is, it's alot of small > files so it can be on both the filer and the server .... but we are looking > into it now :) 2) It's not being maintained in the future, our support tells > us that NetApp is going to use NDMP instead :( > Med venlig hilsen, Best regards > > Christian Sønder, System administrator > TDC Internet (http://www.opasia.dk http://www.zillion.dk) > Olof Palmes Alle 36, DK - 8200 Aarhus N, Denmark > Tlf: +45 86 78 63 12, Fax +45 86 78 38 00 > e-mail: mailto:chso@int.tele.dk > > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: Peter D. Gray [mailto:pdg@uow.edu.au] > Sendt: 18. juni 2001 08:56 > Til: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Emne: legato netapp client > > > It seems most people on this list are using NDMP for backup > of their filers. However, I would like to avoid that if I can. > > Does anybody have expereience with the legato netapp client > and does anybody know if that product is being maintained > into the future? > > Regards, > pdg > > -- > > See mail headers for contact information.

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RE: Configuring Netbackup for NDMP 3.4
by Traitel, Eyal 18 Jun '01

18 Jun '01

Can you check if ndmpd is on on the filer side with: ndmpd status and then run ndmpd on If it was not up ? ----------------------------------------------------------------- eTraitel - I'm the new eBuzzword around !!! Filer Escalation Engineer CNA, MCSE, CSA, LCA, NetApp CA Network Appliance BV Hoofddorp, The Netherlands Office: +31 23 567 9685 Cellular: +31 6 5497 2568 Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Schepers, Jan [mailto:Jan.Schepers@atosorigin.com] Sent: Mon, June 18, 2001 13:12 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Configuring Netbackup for NDMP 3.4 Hello folks, using Networker 3.4 on a HP9000/J6000 and a F85 netapp NDMP host. I authorosize access to the NDMP host as follows: set_ndmp_attr -auth matterhorn root after which I'm asked to give me the password (twice). The command set_ndmp_attr -list suggest that every thing went okay Record Type: Authentication NDMP Server: matterhorn Username : root Password : <registered> Record Type: Robotic Information NDMP Server: matterhorn Device : spt0 Controller : 5 SCSI Id : 1 SCSI LUN : 0 But real verification fails: set_ndmp_attr -verify matterhorn Connecting to host "matterhorn" as user "root"... Failed set_ndmp_attr: host "matterhorn" failed set_ndmp_attr: unable to continue What's cooking? and what should I do to repair? rgds, YS

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