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Re: 3rd party drives for Netapp F820 (fwd)
by don_maloy＠closures.intier.com 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

To the best of my knowledge, it is a drive firmware issue. I had taken several Seagate drives (ST39103FC) from various Sun machines and put them into our FC9 shelf attached to a 740. The drives work, but it does complain about them. I tried modifying the etc/qual_devices file which contained what firmware level was expected by the filer, but that didn't work either. I tried the disk_fw_update on the disks hoping that it would just put the Netapp firmware that I downloaded from the NOW site on top of the Sun firmware, but it would not perform the operation. If you figure out a way to perform this, please post it to the list. Donald J. Maloy Sr. CAD Administrator Intier Automotive - Latching Systems 19888 Haggerty Road Livonia, MI 48152 734.432.4418 734.591.6463 (Fax) Daniel Feenberg To: toasters(a)mathworks.com <feenberg@nber cc: (bcc: Don Maloy/PDD/DORTEC) .org> Subject: 3rd party drives for Netapp F820 (fwd) 08/08/01 07:34 AM Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I am new to the list and can't seem to browse http://teaparty.mathworks.com:1999/toasters. We have an F820 filer from Network Appliance with a single DS14 drive shelf. The shelf came with 14 cartriges, of which 7 had 36 gigabyte ST336704FC drives, and 7 were empty. We would like to fill the empty drive cartridges with Seagate ST373405FC (72 gigabyte) drives, but the F820 complains "Drive not supported" when we insert the drives in the slots. Is the error message because we didn't buy the drive from Netapp, didn't buy the right drives, or some firmware issue, or do we just need to update the F820 OS software? Does anyone have experience with using non-Netapp drives in an F820? We have heard that it works, but this is our first attempt. Daniel Feenberg feenberg(a)nber.org

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3rd party drives for Netapp F820 (fwd)
by Daniel Feenberg 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I am new to the list and can't seem to browse http://teaparty.mathworks.com:1999/toasters. We have an F820 filer from Network Appliance with a single DS14 drive shelf. The shelf came with 14 cartriges, of which 7 had 36 gigabyte ST336704FC drives, and 7 were empty. We would like to fill the empty drive cartridges with Seagate ST373405FC (72 gigabyte) drives, but the F820 complains "Drive not supported" when we insert the drives in the slots. Is the error message because we didn't buy the drive from Netapp, didn't buy the right drives, or some firmware issue, or do we just need to update the F820 OS software? Does anyone have experience with using non-Netapp drives in an F820? We have heard that it works, but this is our first attempt. Daniel Feenberg feenberg(a)nber.org

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SSAM Hangs
by NicholosC 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

Hi, Has anyone experienced a hung session of the SSAM while converting a domain of 10,000 records? Any experience to share would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Nic

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RE: qpopper file locks
by Sims, Aaron 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

You don't mention whether or not you'll have more than one HP-UX system accessing the mail spool. If it's just one, then no problem, stop reading here. If more than one system can access the same mailbox (i.e. load balancing), read on. There are two mailbox formats commonly used. One is 'mbox' the other is 'maildir'. 'mbox' format mailboxes are the most common. They use one file for multiple messages. File locking is always an issue with this format. 'maildir' format is one file per message. This format is generally headache-free in terms of file locking. My experience is that relying on lockd for file locking works 99.9...% of the time. Your milage can and will vary here. Not all NFS clients are made the same. Some UNIX vendors have better NFS and NLM (Network Lock Manager) clients than others. While I don't have direct experience with HP-UX, in small environments, lockd should work fine. (Although in a past life, I've run a F630 cluster with at least 8 Solaris based clients and 250,000 mailboxes relying on lockd with no problems.) If you run into problems, then you should convert to the maildir format. This will require that you patch or change your local delivery agent (the program that sendmail calls to actually write the email to a file, probably mail.local) and your qpopper. Aaron > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Watson [mailto:tkw@southwestern.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 3:34 PM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: qpopper file locks > > > > My apologies if this question has been hashed over before on the list, > but the archives seem inaccessible at the moment. > > We are planning on migrating our mail spool files from an HP-UX server > to our 740 filer and then mounting them back via NFS. This HP system > runs sendmail and pop (qpopper specifically). We are concerned about > file-locking issues which may arise or any other "gotchas" that we > should be aware of. > > Thanks! > > Todd > -- > Todd K. Watson > Senior System & Network Administrator > Southwestern University, Georgetown, TX > tkw(a)southwestern.edu || TEL:512.863.1508 || FAX:512.863.1605 >

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qpopper file locks
by Todd Watson 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

My apologies if this question has been hashed over before on the list, but the archives seem inaccessible at the moment. We are planning on migrating our mail spool files from an HP-UX server to our 740 filer and then mounting them back via NFS. This HP system runs sendmail and pop (qpopper specifically). We are concerned about file-locking issues which may arise or any other "gotchas" that we should be aware of. Thanks! Todd -- Todd K. Watson Senior System & Network Administrator Southwestern University, Georgetown, TX tkw(a)southwestern.edu || TEL:512.863.1508 || FAX:512.863.1605

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RE: HP surestore dlt1
by Joe Luchtenberg 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

If you need support for LVD devices, P/N X2023B-C is an LVD SCSI backup adapter for tape. Check the Sysconfig guide for slots and supported tape drives: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/hardware/syscfg/scdot611/index.htm Joe Luchtenberg Dataline, Inc. 757-858-0600 757-285-1223 (mobile) 757-858-0606 (fax) joe.luchtenberg(a)data-line.com www.data-line.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:jdavis@cs.arizona.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 12:31 PM > To: > Subject: Re: HP surestore dlt1 > > > Thanks to the people who reminded me the onboard adapter > really is for HVD > devices, not LVD devices. Of course the drive I was trying was an LVD > device... >

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is symbol link can be used on filer?
by Zhonghua-Dennis.Huang＠nokia.com 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Hi toasters, An urgent question. There are soft links on my exported q-trees. the link is directed to files on another machine. When windows users want to acces the files, it always says pemission denied. How to do with it?

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Direct attaching SCSI tape drives to 760's
by Paul Letta 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Does anybody have any comments in regard to direct attaching SCSI drives 760's ? My concern is what happens when the drives fail ? I seem to have a drive failure rate of 3 or 4 a year. Currently I do not direct attach, so replacing them is no problem. But what happens to the filers when you remove a SCSI tape device hot ? Can you reattach a new one without rebooting the filer ? I do not think my environment would stand for a filer reboot each time a tape drive fails, but I really do not want to live with the 4MB/Sec I get for backups over the network now. Any thoughts? Thanks, Paul

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Looking to purchase older Filer SCSI tape, disk drives, shelf
by Scott Chellis 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Hi, I am looking to purchase our would appreciate source information for purchase of: qty(3) (or more) 4GB ST15230N disk drives with/in canisters. qty(1) StorageShelf1 with or without drives Exabyte 8505 tape drive with proper mounting bracket, cable, etc for internal F520 install. Any information on any part of the above would be greatly appreciated -- replies to me directly. Thanks Scott B. Chellis Consulting I/T Architect - Network Integration - MCNE, CCNA, CCNP, CIFI South Outsourcing Network Design Office : 919.852.4080 Tieline: 223.9629 Fax : 919.852.4020 Cellular: 919.244.7050 Pager: 800.252.5972 Email: schellis(a)us.ibm.com Notes: Scott Chellis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS

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RE: Veritas b/u not clearing archive bit on NetApp volume
by Adrian Phillips 03 Aug '01

03 Aug '01

Hello again all; Just an update to this issue, that I've recently discovered. I've found that the archive bit does not get cleared if the account used for backup does not have access (NTFS permissions) to the file. It will back it up, but not clear the archive bit. Our user's home folders are all on C:, so that is why I thought it was drive specific. The backup account is in the local Backup Operators group, and is also a member of the Domain Admins group. If anyone has seen this behavior before and has any thoughts, please let me know. Thanks again for your time and help. Regards, -Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Phillips Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:30 PM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Veritas b/u not clearing archive bit on NetApp volume Hello List; We have an F760 running CIFS, with ONTAP 6.0.1R3. "C:" is mapped to vol0, and "D:" to vol1. We use Veritas BackupExec 8.5 over the network to connect to and back up the data/shares on these NTFS volumes. What is very odd (and I nor Netapp can seem to figure out thus far) is that the archive bit for files on C: do not get reset after full or incremental backups. Meanwhile, through the same backup jobs, the archive bit on files on drive D: DOES get properly cleared after being backed up. Because the archive bit is not being cleared on C:, our incremental backups are very large, and running well into the work day. I can't seem to find any differences in the volumes, other than vol0/C: is the root volume and uses 9GB drives, compared to vol1/D:'s 36GB drives. Regards, -Adrian

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