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RE: Problem with Snapshot's and Oracle
by Traitel, Eyal 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

Interesting then what will "gtar" shout... One other suggestion would be to do "touch /location/filename.bak". ----------------------------------------------------------------- eTraitel - I'm the new eBuzzword around !!! Filer Escalation Engineer CNA, MCSE, CSA, LCA, NetApp CA Network Appliance BV Hoofddorp, The Netherlands Office: +31 23 567 9685 Cellular: +31 6 5497 2568 Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com <http://now.netapp.com/> ----------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Hubbard, Dan [mailto:dhubbard@websense.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:26 PM To: 'Traitel, Eyal'; Hubbard, Dan; 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Problem with Snapshot's and Oracle No, the target location is not empty it does have other files in it. When I copy I am copying the files to another name. I am using cp -r filename /location/filename.bak -----Original Message----- From: Traitel, Eyal [mailto:eyal@netapp.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:14 AM To: 'Hubbard, Dan'; 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Problem with Snapshot's and Oracle Is the target location empty ? Does it have maybe files with the same names ? How do you copy ? ----------------------------------------------------------------- eTraitel - I'm the new eBuzzword around !!! Filer Escalation Engineer CNA, MCSE, CSA, LCA, NetApp CA Network Appliance BV Hoofddorp, The Netherlands Office: +31 23 567 9685 Cellular: +31 6 5497 2568 Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com <http://now.netapp.com/> ----------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Hubbard, Dan [mailto:dhubbard@websense.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:43 PM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Problem with Snapshot's and Oracle We have a problem with our snapshots and Oracle and was wondering if anyone has seen/solved this. We shutdown our database and then run a manual snapshot of the our volume running Oracle (kind of a bummer to start you can't snap qtree's). Then we restart our database. The problems occurs when trying to copy the Oracle files out of the snapshot directory to another location on the filer. We need to do this to test recovery procedures. Things appear to be working OK for a few files and then all of a sudden we get "permission denied" copying the files. Ideas ?

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RE: Problem with Snapshot's and Oracle
by Hubbard, Dan 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

No, the target location is not empty it does have other files in it. When I copy I am copying the files to another name. I am using cp -r filename /location/filename.bak -----Original Message----- From: Traitel, Eyal [mailto:eyal@netapp.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:14 AM To: 'Hubbard, Dan'; 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Problem with Snapshot's and Oracle Is the target location empty ? Does it have maybe files with the same names ? How do you copy ? ----------------------------------------------------------------- eTraitel - I'm the new eBuzzword around !!! Filer Escalation Engineer CNA, MCSE, CSA, LCA, NetApp CA Network Appliance BV Hoofddorp, The Netherlands Office: +31 23 567 9685 Cellular: +31 6 5497 2568 Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com <http://now.netapp.com/> ----------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Hubbard, Dan [mailto:dhubbard@websense.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:43 PM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Problem with Snapshot's and Oracle We have a problem with our snapshots and Oracle and was wondering if anyone has seen/solved this. We shutdown our database and then run a manual snapshot of the our volume running Oracle (kind of a bummer to start you can't snap qtree's). Then we restart our database. The problems occurs when trying to copy the Oracle files out of the snapshot directory to another location on the filer. We need to do this to test recovery procedures. Things appear to be working OK for a few files and then all of a sudden we get "permission denied" copying the files. Ideas ?

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RE: Problem with Snapshot's and Oracle
by Traitel, Eyal 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

Is the target location empty ? Does it have maybe files with the same names ? How do you copy ? ----------------------------------------------------------------- eTraitel - I'm the new eBuzzword around !!! Filer Escalation Engineer CNA, MCSE, CSA, LCA, NetApp CA Network Appliance BV Hoofddorp, The Netherlands Office: +31 23 567 9685 Cellular: +31 6 5497 2568 Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com <http://now.netapp.com/> ----------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Hubbard, Dan [mailto:dhubbard@websense.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:43 PM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Problem with Snapshot's and Oracle We have a problem with our snapshots and Oracle and was wondering if anyone has seen/solved this. We shutdown our database and then run a manual snapshot of the our volume running Oracle (kind of a bummer to start you can't snap qtree's). Then we restart our database. The problems occurs when trying to copy the Oracle files out of the snapshot directory to another location on the filer. We need to do this to test recovery procedures. Things appear to be working OK for a few files and then all of a sudden we get "permission denied" copying the files. Ideas ?

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Problem with Snapshot's and Oracle
by Hubbard, Dan 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

We have a problem with our snapshots and Oracle and was wondering if anyone has seen/solved this. We shutdown our database and then run a manual snapshot of the our volume running Oracle (kind of a bummer to start you can't snap qtree's). Then we restart our database. The problems occurs when trying to copy the Oracle files out of the snapshot directory to another location on the filer. We need to do this to test recovery procedures. Things appear to be working OK for a few files and then all of a sudden we get "permission denied" copying the files. Ideas ?

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Re: FW: Assistance offered...
by Thomas.L.White＠chase.com 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

sorry - this did not post. My 36Gig drives are being picked up NOW please speak up if you have any FC('s in the NY area to spare today. tw ---------------------- Forwarded by Thomas L. White/CHASE on 09/13/2001 09:48 AM --------------------------- Thomas L. White 09/13/2001 09:13 AM To: "Maglinger, Paul" <PMAGLINGER(a)scvl.com> cc: Subject: Re: FW: Assistance offered... (Document link: Thomas L. White) It has come to my attention that there are NetApp customers in the NYC area that need FC9's today If you have any spares contact me and I will put you in touch with the appropriate parties. I have some 36Gig drives to populate them - just need empty FC9's tw "Maglinger, Paul" <PMAGLINGER(a)scvl.com>@mathworks.com on 09/12/2001 04:43:17 PM Sent by: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com To: "'NetApps list server'" <toasters(a)mathworks.com> cc: Subject: FW: Assistance offered... Judging by the vast amount of charitable advice that has been offered on this listing, I would guess that all members would be even more enthusiastic with their help in light of recent events. Thanks for reminding us why we're here. Although I'm relatively new to the NetApps experience, I'll gladly throw in my two cents worth if I can. -----Original Message----- From: Jordan Share [mailto:iso9@phantasticant.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 14:54 To: Pete Ehlke; ll ll Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Assistance offered... That seemed implied to me, both by the text of the message and the fact that he's using a hotmail account. Jordan -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Pete Ehlke Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:34 PM To: ll ll Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Assistance offered... * ll ll <harryxu41(a)hotmail.com> [010912 12:24]: > I'm available to help or support anyone struggling to implement their DR > plans. > I can assist in SAN and NAS recovery and implementations, with a variety of > vendors and configurations. One certainly hopes that this is an offer of charitable work, and not a solicitation for business.

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RE: netapps and links
by Bond, Andrew 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

I'm not aware of any reason to avoid links to files. However, current CIFS security does not allow CIFS clients to follow links that leave the share on which they originate, so that it is not possible to follow a link to another volume (unless that link is to another share, which is why it works for homedirs). This is being tracked by BURT 15808. If you want multiple volumes (or filers) to be accessed from a single point, you can use DFS to achieve this for CIFS clients. Regards, Andrew Bond Network Appliance UK Consultant Waterview House, 1 Roundwood Avenue, tel +44 (0)20-8756-6722 Stockley Park, mobile +44 (0)7801-383566 Middlesex, UB11 1EJ fax +44 (0)20-8756-6701 http://www.netapp.com Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Hannes Herret [mailto:hh@bacher.at] > Sent: 13 September 2001 08:32 > To: TORKEL LEIKANGER; toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: netapps and links > > > Symbolic Links on directories are ok; you should prevent > links on files. > > Relative Symbolic Links could followed by cifs clients. > > you have follwing options for the behaviour: > options cifs.symlinks.enable on/off > options cifs.symlinks.cycleguard off should prevent .,..-troubles > > i think you could also try to use absolute sybolic links with > /etc/symlink.translations . > > cu > hannes > > TORKEL LEIKANGER wrote: > > > > We want to do someting smart to limit the number of mountpoints for > > our Netapp users, and to make admin more easy. Question is: > > "Is there a way to let the filer tell cifs and nfs -boxes > to follow links > > pointing between volumes ,in the same way as they do > concerning homedirs? " > > > > On our Netapp 760 running 6.1.1R1 we have 2 big volumes for > projects : > > > > /vol/vol0/proj1 -access=eto-hosts,root=grimstad1:bagri1 > > /vol/vol1/proj2 -access=eto-hosts,root=grimstad1:bagri1 > > > > the same volumes are also cifs shares: > > PROJ1 /vol/vol0/proj1 > Prosjektkataloger (PROJ1) > > everyone / Full Control > > PROJ2 /vol/vol1/proj2 > Prosjektkataloger (PROJ2) > > > > Tried this experiment to limit the users to mount just > /vol/vol0/proj : > > > > Made a /vol/vol/vol0/proj directory, containing links : > > > > # ls -l /fagri2/vol/vol0/proj/ > > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 19 Aug 9 15:59 adm -> > /vol/vol0/proj1/adm > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 20 Aug 9 15:59 alex -> > /vol/vol0/proj1/alex > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 19 Aug 9 15:59 aps -> > /vol/vol0/proj1/aps > > . > > . > > . > > > > and a new cifs share: > > > > proj /vol/vol0/proj > > everyone / Full Control > > > > Mounted /vol/vol0/proj on a unix workstation, and it sees > only links , > > win2000 and NT doesnt even understand what to do with a link.... > > > > ....so this is probably not the way to do it... > > > > -any good ideas? > > > > Torkel. > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hannes Herret IT-Service / Storage > phone : +43 (1) 60 126-34 Bacher Systems EDV GmbH > fax : +43 (1) 60 126-555 Wienerbergstr. 11B > mailto:hh@bacher.at A-1101 Wien, Austria > www : http://www.bacher.at/ Europe >

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How to zero hot spare disks
by Uros Lampret 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

I have some hot spare disks that were part of volume I destroyed. When I add disk to new wolume zeroing is started and it takes some time. I would like to zero disks on my time, but can't find the command. Uros

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netapps and links
by TORKEL LEIKANGER 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

We want to do someting smart to limit the number of mountpoints for our Netapp users, and to make admin more easy. Question is: "Is there a way to let the filer tell cifs and nfs -boxes to follow links pointing between volumes ,in the same way as they do concerning homedirs? " On our Netapp 760 running 6.1.1R1 we have 2 big volumes for projects : /vol/vol0/proj1 -access=eto-hosts,root=grimstad1:bagri1 /vol/vol1/proj2 -access=eto-hosts,root=grimstad1:bagri1 the same volumes are also cifs shares: PROJ1 /vol/vol0/proj1 Prosjektkataloger (PROJ1) everyone / Full Control PROJ2 /vol/vol1/proj2 Prosjektkataloger (PROJ2) Tried this experiment to limit the users to mount just /vol/vol0/proj : Made a /vol/vol/vol0/proj directory, containing links : # ls -l /fagri2/vol/vol0/proj/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 19 Aug 9 15:59 adm -> /vol/vol0/proj1/adm lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 20 Aug 9 15:59 alex -> /vol/vol0/proj1/alex lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 19 Aug 9 15:59 aps -> /vol/vol0/proj1/aps . . . and a new cifs share: proj /vol/vol0/proj everyone / Full Control Mounted /vol/vol0/proj on a unix workstation, and it sees only links , win2000 and NT doesnt even understand what to do with a link.... ....so this is probably not the way to do it... -any good ideas? Torkel.

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FW: Assistance offered...
by Maglinger, Paul 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Judging by the vast amount of charitable advice that has been offered on this listing, I would guess that all members would be even more enthusiastic with their help in light of recent events. Thanks for reminding us why we're here. Although I'm relatively new to the NetApps experience, I'll gladly throw in my two cents worth if I can. -----Original Message----- From: Jordan Share [mailto:iso9@phantasticant.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 14:54 To: Pete Ehlke; ll ll Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Assistance offered... That seemed implied to me, both by the text of the message and the fact that he's using a hotmail account. Jordan -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Pete Ehlke Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:34 PM To: ll ll Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Assistance offered... * ll ll <harryxu41(a)hotmail.com> [010912 12:24]: > I'm available to help or support anyone struggling to implement their DR > plans. > I can assist in SAN and NAS recovery and implementations, with a variety of > vendors and configurations. One certainly hopes that this is an offer of charitable work, and not a solicitation for business.

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Assistance offered...
by ll ll 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

I'm available to help or support anyone struggling to implement their DR plans. I can assist in SAN and NAS recovery and implementations, with a variety of vendors and configurations. Please contact me at harryxu41(a)hotmail.com, I'm available. I'm sure there are many others on this list and others who wish to contribute in their own way to recovering from this tragedy. Please speak up! Hxu _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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