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Solstice Backup (Legato) question
by Matt Musgrove 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

Hello, We have just purchased our first filer (an F820) and are trying to get the backups/restores working before we put it into production. We are using Solstice Backup with NDMP and have a DLT jukebox directly connected to the F820. We can get backups to work but are having trouble with restores. Do you have to use nwrecover (which I can get to work) or can you use the save set recover facility. I get "Invalid fh_info" messages with save set recover. Really I need to know the best way to recover a whole volume in the quickest way in the event of a disaster. thanks Matt Musgrove Thales Information Systems

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SUMMARY: Solaris IP Network Multipathing -- help needed -- peer t o peer w/F840 using Quad 100BaseT
by Surlow, Jim 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

The short summary is that the Solaris 8 IP Network Multipathing feature is intended with SunTrunk compatable switches. So, it won't work in a peer to peer environment with a NetApp. I didn't bother with trying to hook up a switch as this is temporary. Ended up just ifconfig-ing 4 different interfaces on both the filer and Sun. -----Original Message----- From: Surlow, Jim Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 3:53 PM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Solaris IP Network Multipathing -- help needed -- peer to peer w/F840 using Quad 100BaseT Toaster Admins, Am wondering if anyone has done what I'm currently trying to do. I'm trying to setup a Sun E6500 w/a Quad Fast Ethernet Card to connect directly to an F840 w/a Quad NIC using IP Network Multipathing found in Sol 8. I'm running OnTap 6.1.2. These are connected together without a switch or hub. Each of the boxes has a separate NIC to connect to our LAN. I currently have a vif established on the filer and I have the Solaris box cooperating (no errors in the logs anymore). I can mount over the vif (and use the group IP on the "Solaris vif"). The problem is that I only seeing substantial traffic over a single ethernet interface (using "vif stat <vif name>"). And when I say "substantial", it seems that there are ping packets or such on occasion checking the up state of the connections. According to http://www.sun.com/blueprints/0801/Multipathing-updt1.pdf (page 4), it says that outbound packets should be balanced over the multipath which in my tests they clearly are not. Has anyone else come across this? My test case has 9 mount points. If this fails, I'm thinking of dividing up the mounts over the 4 ports in the QFE and mounting the exports separately, but then I get no pooling of the interfaces and no failover. Pros & Cons to this? Thanks, J. Surlow

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Netapp alternatives
by Peter D. Gray 18 Jan '02

18 Jan '02

Has anybody on this list experience with procom filers or the veritas "servpoint" software. We are in the process of upgrading our NAS and procom and SUN (with veritas servpoint) are options along with staying with netapp. The veritas product looks interesting (see the veritas web site if you want details) but is pretty new. The procom filers are a lot cheaper but do not have the reputation of netapp. The latest spec results though seem to indicate that the procom filers offer pretty good performance. Regards, pdg -- See mail headers for contact information.

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bugwatch
by neil lehrer 17 Jan '02

17 Jan '02

how can a bug be fixed if a fixed version is not available? what's the point? or is this implying there is a patch version and i have to call and ask about it? please see below: ~~~~~~~~~~ The following are bugs that meet the critera as specified in your NOW Bug Alerts Profile(s) ======================================================================== Profile Name : cifs http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/bugprofile?Action=Details&profileid=97 Bug Id : 63046 Details : http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/bol?Type=Detail&Display=63046 Title : CIFS Accounts with User Names Longer than 16 Characters May Not Authenticate in Windows 2000 Domains Product : Data ONTAP Severity : 3 - Serious inconvenience Status : Fixed Version Found -Data ONTAP : 6.1.1R2 -NetCache : N/A Likely Exists -Data ONTAP : 6.1.1R2 through 6.1.2R1 -NetCache : N/A Fixed In Versions <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Bug Watch activated: Yes [If 'Yes', you will be notified when a fix is released] [See http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/bugwatch for more information] ~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- regards

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RE: ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ?
by Stout, Noelette 16 Jan '02

16 Jan '02

you can download the mtools utility (http://www.mit.edu/afs/athena/system/mtools/src/) to get the dos2unix/unix2dos functionality as well as others. Other sites for finding dos2unix are: http://www.megaloman.com/~hany/RPM/dos2unix.html http://www.bastet.com/software/software.html --this is a win32 port http://jon.kw.net/download/dos2unix/ and these are just a few. A web search on dos2unix and mtools turned up several sources for both. Noelette Stout Unix System Administrator IKON Office Solutions, Inc Digital Express tel. (770)326-4140 fax (770)326-4139 email: nstout(a)ikon.com -----Original Message----- From: Guy Harris [mailto:guy@netapp.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:13 PM To: Stout, Noelette Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ? > On the UNIX side, you can also use the dos2unix and unix2dos commands. That depends on the UNIX; Digital UNIX 4.0, for example, doesn't have those commands, unless they're in a component we didn't install: hostname$ uname -sr OSF1 V4.0 hostname$ dos2unix ksh: dos2unix: not found hostname$ unix2dos ksh: unix2dos: not found The same applies to HP-UX 11.00: hostname$ uname -sr HP-UX B.11.00 hostname$ dos2unix ksh: dos2unix: not found hostname$ unix2dos ksh: unix2dos: not found and, for that matter, to whatever version of Red Hat Linux is on some machines here: hostname$ uname -sr Linux 2.2.14-6.1.1 hostname$ dos2unix ksh: dos2unix: not found hostname$ unix2dos ksh: unix2dos: not found I would not, however, be surprised to hear that there's a GNU utility that'll convert between DOS/Windows and UNIX text file format.

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ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ?
by Frank Bonnet 16 Jan '02

16 Jan '02

Hi After success in accessing UNIX homedir from windows ( thanks to all that respond ) I am facing a problem with ascii file conversion An ascii file created under UNIX cannot be viewded correctly under windows ( CR LF conversion ) is there an option with Ontap to convert ascii files when opening them under windows and vice-versa ? Thanks a lot. -- Frank Bonnet

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RE: ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ?
by Mike Carroll 16 Jan '02

16 Jan '02

Here is a little alias I created for my korn shell... it uses perl.. alias rmm='perl -i -pe '\''s/\r//'\''' Then you type "rmm <filename>" and it strips off all the damn ^M's.... -----Original Message----- From: Mike Sphar [mailto:mike.sphar@peregrine.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:55 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ? If Windows users just need to read (not write) UNIX files sometimes, Wordpad will do that just fine. -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Peregrine Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Losen [mailto:scl@sasha.acc.virginia.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:28 AM To: Frank Bonnet Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ? > Hi > > After success in accessing UNIX homedir from windows > ( thanks to all that respond ) I am facing a problem > with ascii file conversion > > An ascii file created under UNIX cannot be viewded > correctly under windows ( CR LF conversion ) is there an > option with Ontap to convert ascii files when opening > them under windows and vice-versa ? > > Thanks a lot. The filer does not do any data conversion that I am aware of. In our experience we have found that folks who use both Windows and Unix do not often manipulate the same file on both systems. Usually Windows files are only manipulated from Windows and Unix files only from Unix. However, we do recommend installing NoteTab Light on Windows and using that instead of standard Windows NotePad. NoteTab accepts all three text file line terminators: LF (unix) CRLF (dos) CR (Apple) and will generate output using any of these. So you can keep a file in its original format or convert it. http://www.notetab.com On the Unix side, Solaris has the "flip" command that converts a text file from LF to CRLF and vice versa. This utility may be available on other flavors of Unix, too. If you don't have flip, here is a trivial awk command to convert unix to dos by adding CR to each line: awk '{print $0 "\r"}' unixfile > dosfile Here is a trivial sed command to convert dos to unix by stripping the CR at the end of the line. sed 's/.$//' dosfile > unixfile On Linux, vi (vim) detects the line terminator style and preserves it. And you can also force dos line terminators with the vi command :set fileformat=dos or :set ff=dos To force unix use :set fileformat=unix or :set ff=unix Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support ----------------------------------------- (on rchss001) This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Chiaro Networks, Ltd., and may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s), or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete all copies from your system. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------

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RE: ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ?
by Mike Sphar 16 Jan '02

16 Jan '02

If Windows users just need to read (not write) UNIX files sometimes, Wordpad will do that just fine. -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Peregrine Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Losen [mailto:scl@sasha.acc.virginia.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:28 AM To: Frank Bonnet Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ? > Hi > > After success in accessing UNIX homedir from windows > ( thanks to all that respond ) I am facing a problem > with ascii file conversion > > An ascii file created under UNIX cannot be viewded > correctly under windows ( CR LF conversion ) is there an > option with Ontap to convert ascii files when opening > them under windows and vice-versa ? > > Thanks a lot. The filer does not do any data conversion that I am aware of. In our experience we have found that folks who use both Windows and Unix do not often manipulate the same file on both systems. Usually Windows files are only manipulated from Windows and Unix files only from Unix. However, we do recommend installing NoteTab Light on Windows and using that instead of standard Windows NotePad. NoteTab accepts all three text file line terminators: LF (unix) CRLF (dos) CR (Apple) and will generate output using any of these. So you can keep a file in its original format or convert it. http://www.notetab.com On the Unix side, Solaris has the "flip" command that converts a text file from LF to CRLF and vice versa. This utility may be available on other flavors of Unix, too. If you don't have flip, here is a trivial awk command to convert unix to dos by adding CR to each line: awk '{print $0 "\r"}' unixfile > dosfile Here is a trivial sed command to convert dos to unix by stripping the CR at the end of the line. sed 's/.$//' dosfile > unixfile On Linux, vi (vim) detects the line terminator style and preserves it. And you can also force dos line terminators with the vi command :set fileformat=dos or :set ff=dos To force unix use :set fileformat=unix or :set ff=unix Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support

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Shortcuts to CIFS home directories ?
by Frank Bonnet 15 Jan '02

15 Jan '02

Hi My auth problem is solved ;-) thanks to Adam Fox <Adam.Fox(a)netapp.com> Now I have another one ... Is it possible to create a mapping file to map home directories and allow user shortcuts to point to the right home directory as it is possible under UNIX to do with NIS maps I explain I would like windows user could maps drive as follows \\toaster\loginname the mapping file (on the toaster) would looks like \user\somedir\anotherdir\anotherdir\loginname \loginame ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ real home directory shortcut The best way would be to use directly NIS automount map ... Another question , does OnTap will support LDAP auth ? ( NOT active directory ) if yes , when ? Thanks a lot -- Frank Bonnet

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RE: NOW enhancement: filer names
by La Londe, Renee 15 Jan '02

15 Jan '02

Hi Todd, As usual thanks for the great suggestion! We have already implemented this in the 'Manage Installed Products' form http://now.netapp.com/installedproducts and will be doing so in all of the other tools over the next 2 months. Additionally, we will be adding in the system id as another search option. Thanks again for your feedback and we will keep you informed as we update the tools. Best Regards, Renee Renee La Londe Director eService Network Appliance, INC Get Answers on NOW (Netapp on the Web)! http://now.netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: Todd C. Merrill [mailto:tmerrill@mathworks.com] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 7:35 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: NOW enhancement: filer names Importance: Low Got a suggestion for an enhancement to NOW....wherever a serial number is used (cases/RMA/profiles/prococol licenses, etc.). also show the machine name. After about 5 or 6 filers, I can't keep track of this information anymore. So, I keep a little table of my own. This is kinda silly when there is a database that keeps track of things like this already... This can easily be updated by us end users, or, since autosupport mails are sent each week, that process can do it (for those filers that actually show a serial number in the output of `sysconfig` instead of a systemID). Or, autosupport can use the contents of /etc/serial if it exists to do this on our behalf. Thanks for listening. Until next time... The Mathworks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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