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Fwd: "hobbyist" licenses?
by John Enger 07 May '03

07 May '03

>Does NetApp have an official or unofficial "hobbyist" or "home user" >program, for people who want to play with older systems at home in a >non-production/non-profit environment, and cant afford a service contract? > >I've acquired a FA520 with four v2 SCSI disk shelves (full of 9G drives) and >a full spares kit. > >The unit came with a NFS license, but no CIFS - and I'd like to experiment >with CIFS on this unit without having to build a UNIX box and serve NFS via >SAMBA. > >I'm running OnTap 5.3.7. I've tried to obtain NetApp OnTap software for my F330, but with no luck. I ended up with a copy of a netapp simulator for linux... Not exactly why I purchased my NetApp system. I have had exellent service with both Sun, SGI, HP and Digital when it comes to lisencing for home use. But the NetApp system is not in any way linked to a software lisence as other systems are. Or vise versa actually.. So my filer is at ease in the basement as a way too large book-support. And I am still ignorant when it comes to NetApp's and Data OnTap software. Perhaps EMC Symmetrix is an easier path to walk with home use and lisencing? John Enger http://www.johnenger.com

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RE: "hobbyist" licenses?
by James Beal 07 May '03

07 May '03

I agree with John: I don't see a piracy issue here. We've got 50,000 systems out there already, and I don't see why home users would be more likely to try to steal something than the people who already have access to those 50,000 systems. Plus we've got the Data ONTAP simulator which we are letting lots of folks have. I would like to support any move in this direction, I would also be interested in knowing what the correct path is for getting access to the ONTAP simulator is.

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07 May '03

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kindly get back to me
by rita savimbi 07 May '03

07 May '03

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RE: "hobbyist" licenses?
by Alan McLachlan 07 May '03

07 May '03

This thread highlights the whole issue with how NetApp licensing is managed. The licence is perpetual, as long as the box doesn't change hands. This seems very inconsistent. If a software licence is limited-term (like MS 6.0 per-year licencing) then it makes sense for it to be not transferable. If however the basic license is perpetual and only associated with that physical hardware, then it should be transferable. NetApp's half-way approach is inconsistent and very confusing for the aftermarket - it means that there is most likely now a fair number of 2nd hand NetApp boxes out there running on their original license codes that are now running illegally according to the terms of the licence agreement. If NetApp were to keep the base licences hardware bound (ownership of the license transfers with the system serial number), they would probably see a small secondary revenue stream from a proportion of 2nd hand owners taking up support contracts - for non end-of-support systems only of course. Instead they want a second bite at the big cherry by forcing 2nd hand owners to pay for a whole new licence, which apart from being morally dubious means that in reality they get nothing because someone who paid $2500 for an old filer isn't going to pay $20K or more for licencing to just to run it legally. And if the system is past the end-of-software support date NetApp won't even sell you a license for a 2nd hand platform - in other words they want to turn all aged filers into boat anchors - not a very good way to promote the value of the system. If I buy a Mac OS server, run it for three years then sell the server to a friend, my friend now has the perpetual Mac OS license that came with that server. Apple has kept their MacOS licensing hardware bound mainly for historical reasons, but it does save a lot of confusion and concern in the second hand market. (let's not even begin to discuss the complete mess that is MS OS licencing...) All this would be meaningless if it weren't for the fact that unlike regular servers, NetApp filers are often useful way beyond their expected official life span. Even an aged "low-end" F720 blows away any current Wintel platform as a plain CIFS server. And likewise you need a pretty high-spec current Unix platform to beat it for NFS. And of course the Unix box won't give you anything like the data protection features provided by the filer. **** ASI Solutions Disclaimer **** The material transmitted may contain confidential and/or privileged material and is intended only for the addressee. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender and destroy any copies of the material immediately. ASI will protect your Privacy according to the 10 Privacy Principles outlined under the new Privacy Act, Dec 2001. This email is also subject to copyright. Any use of or reliance upon this material by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. E-mails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. **** END OF MESSAGE ****

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Disk Scrub Errors
by Steve Evans 06 May '03

06 May '03

I keep getting disk scrub errors every week for the past month or so. How many errors are considered acceptable? I'm getting about two bad sectors a week, but they are spread across two (maybe three I would have to go back and check) disks. Steve Evans SDSU Foundation (619) 594-0653

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"hobbyist" licenses?
by Bill Bradford 05 May '03

05 May '03

Does NetApp have an official or unofficial "hobbyist" or "home user" program, for people who want to play with older systems at home in a non-production/non-profit environment, and cant afford a service contract? I've acquired a FA520 with four v2 SCSI disk shelves (full of 9G drives) and a full spares kit. The unit came with a NFS license, but no CIFS - and I'd like to experiment with CIFS on this unit without having to build a UNIX box and serve NFS via SAMBA. I'm running OnTap 5.3.7. Bill -- bill bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net austin, texas

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RE: CIFSDispatcher Error
by Stephen Rivers 05 May '03

05 May '03

I've heard that OnTap 6.4 has a longer time-out period. Also, you don't say how long there is between these messages. Regards, Steve Rivers -----Original Message----- From: stefan.holzwarth(a)adac.de [mailto:stefan.holzwarth@adac.de] Sent: 30 April 2003 08:23 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: AW: CIFSDispatcher Error I also see that connection terminations. I think you should decrease the cache time to avoid "too less" communication with the DC. Kind Regards Stefan Holzwarth -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Kumar, Rahul [mailto:rahul.kumar@eds.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. April 2003 08:08 An: Michael Schipp; toasters(a)mathworks.com Betreff: RE: CIFSDispatcher Error Is there ay way to increase the cache time on filer Shd I enable opslock for cifs shares Rahul -----Original Message----- From: Michael Schipp [mailto:mschipp@asi.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 11:35 AM To: Kumar, Rahul; 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: CIFSDispatcher Error From the NOW site. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Answered You can expect this from the filer. It is mostly due to idle timeouts between the Filer and it's authenticating DC. I would say it is most like ( by default ) a 15 minute drop after the last need to authenticate ( like a new logon, or new cifs share connect that isn't cached ) Thank you Michael A Schipp ASI Solutions IT LAN/WAN Administrator Phone : 02 9384 8095 Mobile : 0402 907 928 E-Mail : mschipp(a)asi.com.au Visit us at http://www.asi.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Kumar, Rahul [mailto:rahul.kumar@eds.com] Sent: Wednesday, 30 April 2003 2:14 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: CIFSDispatcher Error Fellow Toasters, On one of the F820, running Ontap 6.3.1R1 we are seeing lots of [CIFSDispatcher:info]: Connection with \\DC terminated [CIFSAuthen:info]: Connection with DC \\DC established [CIFSDispatcher:info]: Connection with \\DC terminated [CIFSAuthen:info]: Connection with DC \\DC established [CIFSDispatcher:info]: Connection with \\DC terminated [CIFSAuthen:info]: Connection with DC \\DC established [CIFSDispatcher:info]: Connection with \\DC terminated We have reset the machine account in win2k nativemode domain a few times but it doesn't seem to be helping. This error is not being seen on our 3 other filers Regards Rahul **** ASI Solutions Disclaimer **** The material transmitted may contain confidential and/or privileged material and is intended only for the addressee. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender and destroy any copies of the material immediately. ASI will protect your Privacy according to the 10 Privacy Principles outlined under the new Privacy Act, Dec 2001. This email is also subject to copyright. Any use of or reliance upon this material by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. E-mails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. **** END OF MESSAGE ****

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Disk Scrub Errors
by Steve Evans 05 May '03

05 May '03

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SUMMARY: disk_usage.pl script not working after upgrade to Ontap 6.3.1R1
by Maglinger, Paul 02 May '03

02 May '03

Working with one of our programmers, we had to add a line into the script stating that if the value was "nothing", then the value should be zero. That took care of the problem. We're thinking that the script became confused with the quota output under the Limit column for the root, which is "-". We would get a divide by zero error and the script would bomb. The box that we're running this from was using SCO. Hope this helps anyone with a similiar situation. -----Original Message----- From: Maglinger, Paul Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 11:13 To: 'NetApps list server' Subject: disk_usage.pl script not working after upgrade to Ontap 6.3.1R1 We were using a great perl script that we downloaded from NOW to monitor our quotas called disk_usage.pl. After upgrading from Ontap 6.1.1R2P1 to 6.3.1R1 it no longer works except for just one of the qtrees. None of the permissions or qtree styles have changed. Anyone had a similar experience? Our glory is not in never falling, but rising every time we fall. Paul Maglinger, A+, CA, CCA, CET, MCSE Systems Administrator Shoe Carnival Inc. (812)867-4674 pmaglinger(a)scvl.com

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