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RE: Deleting qtree
by Alan McLachlan 15 Oct '03

15 Oct '03

Thorsten, Be careful with the way you word things. Saying "the data will move to the snapshot area" implies that data is actively copied out like in other vendors snapshot implementations (Compaq/HP Virtual Replicator, EMC SnapView, etc) which would generate a negative performance impact and the potential for snapshot failure, which are two issues that are suffered by the other vendor products. The ability to do "passive" snapshots as a side-effect of the no-update-in-place policy of WAFL is a major differentiator for Network Appliance. Rather, say "the data is no longer marked as part of the active filesystem". It's still protected by the snapshot block map of course, until all the relevant snapshots are deleted. Alan. -----Original Message----- From: Thorsten.Lemke(a)computacenter.com [mailto:Thorsten.Lemke@computacenter.com] Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2003 8:13 PM To: paul.winchcombe(a)ukgateway.net Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Deleting qtree Hi Paul, you don't have to worry about any snapshot settings before deleting a qtree. The blocks in your qtrees are already marked as belonging to serveral snapshots if the data already exists for some time (what I assume). Once this has happened you can't do anything about it. If you delete your qtrees, the data will move to the snapshot area. The remaining qtrees are not affected. You are not able to differentiate between snapshots of different qtrees as a snapshot is always taken of a whole volume. For some details about snapshots follow this link: http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3002.html Regards Thorsten Lemke "paul.winchcombe(a)ukgateway.net" <yxm16(a)ukgateway.net>@mathworks.com on 14.10.2003 10:49:24 Please respond to paul.winchcombe(a)ukgateway.net Sent by: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com To: toasters(a)mathworks.com cc: Subject: Deleting qtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, Just after any information of what is the best way to delete a qtree. My problem is this - I have a volume about 1TB which has 5 qtrees, I want to delete 2 qtrees but keep the snapshots of the 3 remaining. If I turned snapshot off for the volume before running the delete, then deleted the files would this work ? Regards Paul COMPUTACENTER (UK) LTD The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information which may be confidential and which may also be privileged. Unless you are the named addressee (or authorised to receive for the addressee) you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. Computacenter information is available from http://www.computacenter.com This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. **************************************************************************** *********************************************** **** ASI Solutions Disclaimer **** The material transmitted may contain confidential and/or privileged material and is intended only for the addressee. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender and destroy any copies of the material immediately. ASI will protect your Privacy according to the 10 Privacy Principles outlined under the new Privacy Act, Dec 2001. This email is also subject to copyright. Any use of or reliance upon this material by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. E-mails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. **** END OF MESSAGE ****

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RE: Disk numbering order in SDS12 ?
by Victor Olsen 15 Oct '03

15 Oct '03

The disks in the DC-12 shelf are located like this(front left to right). 15 14 13 12 11 10 09 08 03 02 01 00 If the disk is already failed, you don't need to do it again. Check the message section of your autosupport-mail to find out which disk is failed. Remember to run "disk swap" before changing disks. Regards, Victor -----Original Message----- From: Frank Bonnet [mailto:bonnetf@bart.esiee.fr] Sent: 15. oktober 2003 12:49 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Disk numbering order in SDS12 ? Hi I have a fail disk in a SDS12 shelf but unfortunately the LED has gone to amber color and I wonder how disks are numbered into the shelf ? I think it is from 0 to 11 from left to right when looking in front of the shelf , am I right ? the disk has been declared no good for I/O by the filer and I have the replacing part and I have another question the doc tell us to declare the disk failed by the disk fail <disk_name> command , ok but ... what is the name of the disk ? Thanks Frank

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Disk numbering order in SDS12 ?
by Frank Bonnet 15 Oct '03

15 Oct '03

Hi I have a fail disk in a SDS12 shelf but unfortunately the LED has gone to amber color and I wonder how disks are numbered into the shelf ? I think it is from 0 to 11 from left to right when looking in front of the shelf , am I right ? the disk has been declared no good for I/O by the filer and I have the replacing part and I have another question the doc tell us to declare the disk failed by the disk fail <disk_name> command , ok but ... what is the name of the disk ? Thanks Frank

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RE: Deleting qtree
by paul.winchcombe＠ukgateway.net 15 Oct '03

15 Oct '03

I also forgot to mention that it is also snap mirrord -- do I therefore have to re-initialise all the snapmirrored qtrees. >-- Original Message -- >Subject: RE: Deleting qtree >Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:52:18 -0700 >From: "Fox, Adam" <Adam.Fox(a)netapp.com> >To: <paul.winchcombe(a)ukgateway.net> > > >No, that wouldn't do it. Because if you have existing snapshots, those snapshots would still own blocks of the qtrees you deleted. Snapshots are at the volume level therefore you have 2 choices: 1) Delete the qtrees and keep lots of snapshot d >ta around until they fall off naturally. 2) Delete snapshots (probably starting at the oldest) until an your snapshots are chewing up an acceptable amount of space. Worst case, you'd have to delete all of them and start over. If you want to do >hat, you'll need to delete the snapshots first, then delete the qtrees, then begin snapshots again. Turning off snapshots doesn't delete existing snapshots, it just stops new ones from being taken. -- Adam Fox NetApp Professional Services, NC >adamfox(a)netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: paul.winchcombe(a)ukgateway.net [mailto:yxm16@ukgateway.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 4:49 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Deleting qtree Hi, Just after any information >f what is the best way to delete a qtree. My problem is this - I have a volume about 1TB which has 5 qtrees, I want to delete 2 qtrees but keep the snapshots of the 3 remaining. If I turned snapshot off for the volume before running the delete, t >en deleted the files would this work ? Regards Paul

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Re: Deleting qtree
by Thorsten.Lemke＠computacenter.com 15 Oct '03

15 Oct '03

Hi Paul, you don't have to worry about any snapshot settings before deleting a qtree. The blocks in your qtrees are already marked as belonging to serveral snapshots if the data already exists for some time (what I assume). Once this has happened you can't do anything about it. If you delete your qtrees, the data will move to the snapshot area. The remaining qtrees are not affected. You are not able to differentiate between snapshots of different qtrees as a snapshot is always taken of a whole volume. For some details about snapshots follow this link: http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3002.html Regards Thorsten Lemke "paul.winchcombe(a)ukgateway.net" <yxm16(a)ukgateway.net>@mathworks.com on 14.10.2003 10:49:24 Please respond to paul.winchcombe(a)ukgateway.net Sent by: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com To: toasters(a)mathworks.com cc: Subject: Deleting qtree -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, Just after any information of what is the best way to delete a qtree. My problem is this - I have a volume about 1TB which has 5 qtrees, I want to delete 2 qtrees but keep the snapshots of the 3 remaining. If I turned snapshot off for the volume before running the delete, then deleted the files would this work ? Regards Paul COMPUTACENTER (UK) LTD The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information which may be confidential and which may also be privileged. Unless you are the named addressee (or authorised to receive for the addressee) you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. Computacenter information is available from http://www.computacenter.com This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ***************************************************************************************************************************

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ONTAP 6.4.1, issues with NDMP and Legato Networker?
by kallen＠collab.net 14 Oct '03

14 Oct '03

hi folks, the thread "Netapp Ontap 6.4.1 and Veritas Netbackup 4.5" back in july pointed out problems between 6.4.1 and NBU, apparently due to Bug 85470 (http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/bol?Type=Detail&Display=85470). has anyone who uses Legato Networker experienced similar problems after upgrading to 6.4.1? we're debating upgrading to 6.4.1, or considering 6.4.2. thanks in advance. -- -=kallen=- "For one human being to love another, that is perhaps the most difficult of our tasks; the ultimate, the last test and proof; the work for which all other work is but preparation." -- Rainer Maria Rilke

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Mutual Benefit &Trust.
by ed_bongo＠zonai.com 14 Oct '03

14 Oct '03

FROM: LT.COL.EDDY BONGO (Rtd) PLOT 104 FATAI CLOSE VICTORIA ISLAND LAGOS NIGERIA TEL: 234-803-334-7417 Fax: 234-1-759-4979 Email:ed_bongo2000@yahoo.com RE: REQUEST FOR URGENT ASSISTANCE/JOINT VENTURE ATTN: CEO/PRESIDENT I should appreciate your surprise while receiving this letter. In any case, I am left with no option but to contact you in this manner. I got your contact courtesy of your country's trade directory here in Nigeria. My decision to write to you was informed by knowledge that being established personality you could be disposed to understand my predicament in order to give me the assistance I require. My name is Lt. Col Eddy Bongo (Rtd). the former adviser to PRESIDENT CHARLES TAYLOR the former president of Liberia. The chairman and leader of the revolutionary united front (R.U.F). This front was founded at the height of the civil war currently in my country the republic of Liberia. The then president of Liberia (Mr. Charles Taylor) mandated and instructed me to create and equip fully, strong military corps to defend the ruling government that was continually attacked by the rebel military forces. Nonetheless, this exercise was backed up with the sum of USD$32million dollars for the purchase of arms and ammunition for the government military corp. to fight the rebels from the republic of North Korea. The above sum set aside for the purchase of arms, was realized from the sales of my country's diamond, which I was in control of. This fund was moved to Nigeria via diplomatic courier in support of the military corps in one metal boxes and which I personally supervised. We have concluded arrangement with the Armscor of North Korea and made full payment of USD$17million dollars. The balance of USD$15million was held by me having the intention of making arrangement to transfer the fund out of Africa for personal use. However, the arrangement was being made for us to go back to Liberia when the ECOMIL and the AMERICAN allied forces must have captured the rebels and normalcy restored in Liberia, but as it is now I believe that it will be more important I occupy myself with the plans on how to claim this fund from the security company and subsequently invest it. I made an arrangement with my other colleagues to secure the fund for our own personal use, as it was a golden opportunity. However, they could not live to see this actualized as the rebels killed them before Charles Taylor was mandated to go on asylum in Nigeria on the 11th August 2003. This money is presently in deposit with a private Security Company here in Nigeria under a special arrangement though, we deposited it as precious stone and personal effects in this manner, no body have the idea of the actual content of the box. This has to be very confidential on both our sides. I seek your assistance to join us in this effort to transfer this fund out of Africa for investment purposes, as I cannot go back to Liberia now. I am currently an asylum seeker in Nigeria with the Former President thus, am prohibited by my present statues to operate a foreign currency account or transfer fund out of Nigerian monetary area hence, your assistance is highly solicited to stand as the beneficiary. Feel free to contact me on the above Email i.d or fax number for more confidentiality, as I do not want this information to be disposed until we reach our goal. As soon as I hear from you, I will be in a position to give you more information about this transaction and myself. Thanking you for your anticipated co-operation. Yours sincerely, Lt. Col Eddy Bongo (RTD). ------------------------------------------ Este mensaje fue enviado usando ZONAiMail. "Registra tu buzón con ZONAi ya!" http://www.zonai.com

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Deleting qtree
by paul.winchcombe＠ukgateway.net 14 Oct '03

14 Oct '03

Hi, Just after any information of what is the best way to delete a qtree. My problem is this - I have a volume about 1TB which has 5 qtrees, I want to delete 2 qtrees but keep the snapshots of the 3 remaining. If I turned snapshot off for the volume before running the delete, then deleted the files would this work ? Regards Paul

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URGENT: YOUR CONTRACT EXECUTION PAYMENT RELEASE
by shola_martins＠katamail.com 13 Oct '03

13 Oct '03

C/o Contract Reviewers Committee/Panel Desk, Dear Friend, How are you? I am Mr. Shola Martins the newly transited Contract Authority, as mentioned above, it is my pleasure to inform you that your longed awaited contract payment of $27.5 Million has been released the newly transited authorities headed by me. However, because of the failure and refusal of the formal authorities to release your contract payment of the file #002 with the FEDERAL MINISTRY OF JUSTICE, but be informed that immediately the fund gets to you, you will have to pay me 25% of the total fund. If you agree you can reply me and send your fax + phone number for easy communication and verifications of Deposit and Contract Certificates, so that you can receive your payment via the CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA, hope to hear from you soon, Regards, Mr. Shola Martins Contract Panel Pls, also reply to: mr_shola_marttins(a)yahoo.com

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