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Re: Growing an aggregate with different sized disks.
by Ray Van Dolson 02 Feb '11

02 Feb '11

Thanks Michael; So, sounds like it can be done, but based on the other responses I received, sounds like it's not really a good idea and can result in odd behavior... Ray On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 02:36:21PM -0800, Michael Colbert wrote: > You can add the larger disks to the same aggr, but specify that they be placed > in a new raid group, like so: > > aggr add aggr1 -n -g new 4@450 > > The "-g new" part is what specifies creating a new raid group, rather than > adding to the existing one with smaller disks. > > Hope that helps, > Michael Colbert > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Ray Van Dolson <rvandolson(a)esri.com> wrote: > > Have an aggregate comprised of 300GB disks and have two new shelves > with 450GB disks. > > I ran across this[1] which describes some concerns when dealing with > disks of mixed sizes. > > It sounds like I can't specify that 450GB disks and 300GB disks be > assigned to distinct raid groups (my raid size is 16), so if I add the > 450GB disks to my aggregate, I'll likely only be able to use 300GB of > them. > > Therefore I should create a new aggregate for the 450GB disks. > > Is my understanding of this correct? > > Also, the raid size seems to default to 16 -- I'm used to keeping > RAID-6 raid groups to 9 disks at most. Is 16 OK? > > Thanks, > Ray > > [1] http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel7261/html/ontap/smg/ > provisioning/concept/c_oc_prov_raid-group-add-lrg.html > >

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Varonis and NTP QFS on NetApp
by Milazzo Giacomo 02 Feb '11

02 Feb '11

Hi all, for the moment I've few details for this issue has been reported me from a collegue of mine working in another site. For what I can tell you now software is running on a FAS 3170C with DoT 7.3 It seems that there's an issue running both Varonis and NTP QFS on this system. As probably you know both product, NTP and Varonis, use separated NetApp "file policies" (fpolicy) that can interact with the external engine of reporter or that can act as source of control. Now it seems that under certain circumstances these two different but concurrent NetApp file policies cannot simultaneously run and the one or the other or both crash. I would for now know if you are aware of issues on running on the same NetApp system both products or if there are some particular workaround that can be applied. Thank you in advance, Regards

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latency measurement in DFM/Management Console/etc
by Fred Grieco 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

How does the Netapp or DFM measure volume and lun latency? Does it just measure how long it's taking to service requests from the back ports to the front ports? Or does it measure some sort of fibre ping to the host? I am looking in the management console in DFM/Ops Mgr and seeing spikes of very high volume and lun latency (seconds...) on an N-Series IBM gateway filer. I've looked at all the usual suspects, including misaligned VMs, high correlated IOPs, delays on the backend disk, deferred consistency points. Nothing is matching up. Most of the connected systems are on a Cisco UCS with NPIV. The systems with the lowest IOs have the highest latency numbers. Thoughts? TIA, Fred

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Re: latency measurement in DFM/Management Console/etc
by Webster, Stetson 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

Controller only; no host in the mix. Please pardon my BlackBerry thumbmanship ....... Stetson Webster Solutions Architect - PS Labs NCIE-SAN, NCIE-B&R, SCSN-E, VCP NetApp 919.250.0052 Direct Phone stetson(a)netapp.com ________________________________ From: Fred Grieco <fredgrieco(a)yahoo.com> To: toasters(a)mathworks.com <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Sent: Mon Jan 31 08:43:35 2011 Subject: latency measurement in DFM/Management Console/etc How does the Netapp or DFM measure volume and lun latency? Does it just measure how long it's taking to service requests from the back ports to the front ports? Or does it measure some sort of fibre ping to the host? I am looking in the management console in DFM/Ops Mgr and seeing spikes of very high volume and lun latency (seconds...) on an N-Series IBM gateway filer. I've looked at all the usual suspects, including misaligned VMs, high correlated IOPs, delays on the backend disk, deferred consistency points. Nothing is matching up. Most of the connected systems are on a Cisco UCS with NPIV. The systems with the lowest IOs have the highest latency numbers. Thoughts? TIA, Fred

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write cache setting for Windows
by Fred Grieco 20 Jan '11

20 Jan '11

This seems like a newbie question, but I'm confused and found limited info on this. Should I be using the "Enable Write Caching" setting on my Windows disks that are Netapp lun (FC) based? Does this tell Netapp to use write caching for that lun/port, or does it tell Windows to cache somewhere on the local system? TIA, Fred

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R: Mixing different size disk on DS4243
by Milazzo Giacomo 20 Jan '11

20 Jan '11

> just dont mix sata and sas Of course! :) Thanks Da: Peter-Paul Witta [mailto:paul.witta@CUBiT.at] Inviato: giovedì 20 gennaio 2011 18:20 A: Milazzo Giacomo Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Oggetto: Re: Mixing different size disk on DS4243 Am 20.01.11 18:08, schrieb Milazzo Giacomo: Hi all, for disk shelves DS4243 the configuration guide reports only a rule for disks "same type" in the same shelf, and not "same size". Is it possible to have, i.e., 12 1 TB SATA disks and 12 2 TB SATA disks on the same DS4243? Or, i.e, 300 and 600 SAS? In this way I could have, using software ownership in cluster, controllers with different amount of spaces... Regards yes thats possible. just dont mix sata and sas lg paul -- kind regards, +43-664-4542287 Ing. Peter-Paul Witta +43-1-7189880-0 Chief Technology Officer www.CUBiT.at<http://www.CUBiT.at>

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Mixing different size disk on DS4243
by Milazzo Giacomo 20 Jan '11

20 Jan '11

Hi all, for disk shelves DS4243 the configuration guide reports only a rule for disks "same type" in the same shelf, and not "same size". Is it possible to have, i.e., 12 1 TB SATA disks and 12 2 TB SATA disks on the same DS4243? Or, i.e, 300 and 600 SAS? In this way I could have, using software ownership in cluster, controllers with different amount of spaces... Regards

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R: Snapmanager for Exchange - Nice issue...incredible :-)
by Milazzo Giacomo 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

As from my mail I've already run the TS Client in "console" mode (/admin from Windows 7, Vista or XP SP3) and I've already tried the "native" console in vCenter (or vClient...). Not tried VNC but I don't think that customers could be happy to have VNC installed ONLY for this! It's incredible to think that NetApp engineers did not think that this environment is nowadays quite normal!!! And this is a NEW bug because I've always run SME config wizard till version 6 when on W2K3 and Exchange 2K3/2K7...this is new for E2K10 on W2K8 64bit! I'm really disappointed but smiling... Regards, Note: I always run TS client in console mode! Da: Klise, Steve [mailto:klises@sutterhealth.org] Inviato: venerdì 14 gennaio 2011 18:37 A: Milazzo Giacomo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Oggetto: RE: Snapmanager for Exchange - Nice issue...incredible :-) You can use this: If you are running XP, you can run this; if you have the admin tools installed, look here: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Administrative Tools You run the remote desktop, and there is a button for console. That should work. Or, you could just go to vcenter. That's the console to. There is always dameware, or VNC. From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Milazzo Giacomo Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:20 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Snapmanager for Exchange - Nice issue...incredible :-) Hi all, I've run up against this bug: https://kb.netapp.com/support/index?page=content&id=2011025 Running SME 6.0 on a VMware VM with Exchange 2010 I cannot run configuration wizard because no storage group/db are visible in the console. Obviously the only way to access to the VM is using Terminal Services...I've tried of course both the vCenter console and the MSTSC client in /admin mode. No luck. Suggestions?

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Snapmanager for Exchange - Nice issue...incredible :-)
by Milazzo Giacomo 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Hi all, I've run up against this bug: https://kb.netapp.com/support/index?page=content&id=2011025 Running SME 6.0 on a VMware VM with Exchange 2010 I cannot run configuration wizard because no storage group/db are visible in the console. Obviously the only way to access to the VM is using Terminal Services...I've tried of course both the vCenter console and the MSTSC client in /admin mode. No luck. Suggestions?

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Moved volume to new filer, administrator ACLs now invalid?
by Steve Losen 11 Jan '11

11 Jan '11

Greetings, We replaced a filer named home2 with a new head. We physically moved disks from the old head to the new head. One of the volumes that we moved uses ntfs security style. I used to be able to map the volume/share as user home2\administrator and had "full contol" on everything. Now, however, the home2\administrator user on the new head has a new SID while the ACLs in the volume display the old SID. So now Administrator has limited access rights (can't drill down into folders, can't change ACLs, etc.) Doesn't the local Administrator user trump the ACLs ? Anyone have any suggestions? I'm a Unix guy with limited Windows knowledge. By the way, the filer is a member of a Windows AD domain, but I'm not a domain admin, so I don't have a privileged AD account. That's why I use the local Administrator account. Do I need to get a domain admin to help me? Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support

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