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Re: FW: ontap 5.0?
by Dave Cole 18 Mar '98

18 Mar '98

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Re: FW: ontap 5.0?
by Dave Cole 18 Mar '98

18 Mar '98

On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Robert Black wrote: -| Well, I heard it is out. I went to the now.netapp.com site. I see -| the announcement, I go to the software library. ONTAP 3.1.6 is the -| latest recommended release? What happened to 4.3.1? -| - -Yes it is! ONTAP 3.1.6 is one of the last 3.X early model releases -Go to the following URL on NOW, and the 4.3.1 release is there: - -http://now.netapp.com/cgi-bin/software/#ONTAP4 Odd. I still don't see it. All I see are ONTAP 3.1.6, NetCache 3.1.2c and NetCache 3.2R4. :| -| I think something is broken. Either that, or NetApp is celebrating -| April 1st a little early. -| - -Nothing broken, See above! err. yah. ok. :| -| And while I'm here, I might mention that the PDF file format is quite -| possibly the second most annoying thing found on the internet, -| surpassed only by spam. I blew off far too much time trying to get a -| reader for the 5.0 readme file, only to find 1.25 pages of -| almost-completely-useless text. -| - -Can't help you here. PDF (Adobe Acrobat) format is one of the single -largest (and common) document file formats found outside of Word (.doc) -and ASCII (.txt). Try getting the latest release directly from the -Adobe web site. So release them at .txt files too! How hard could that be? ------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Cole (DC1110) | dacole(a)netcom.ca Systems Administrator | dacole(a)vex.net | office/~dacole/ Netcom Canada | www.vex.net/~dacole/ 905 King Street West, Toronto, M6K 3G9 | phone - 416.341.5801 Toronto, Ontario, Canada, Earth, Sol | fax - 416.341.5725

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NIS Binding Problem
by John F. Kane 18 Mar '98

18 Mar '98

Has anyone experienced NIS binding problems on their filers? We have four filers (3 F330s & 1 F230) running Ontap 4.3R3 that have been locking out users on a few occasions this past week The UNIX servers and user workstations trying to access the filers are reporting "server not responding: RPC: Timed out" errors. There is not much helpful in the filer logs. In order to unhang the filer, we must manually rebind it to a different NIS slave server. -- John F. Kane

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Anybody running 5.0?
by Jaye Mathisen 18 Mar '98

18 Mar '98

NOW lists it in early release, but I haven't had the guts to try it yet.

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DLT 4000(SUN) & F230
by Jimy Liu 18 Mar '98

18 Mar '98

Hi : Is anyone using Sun's DLT4000 with F230 ? Is there anything I need to notice ? Jimy

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by yingchih＠mitac.com.tw 17 Mar '98

17 Mar '98

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FP'98 + IIS 4.0 + NT4 + CIFS
by Brian Tao 13 Mar '98

13 Mar '98

Does anyone have some experience setting up an NT4/IIS 4.0 Web server with the FrontPage extensions, using a Netapp as the data store? According to Microsoft (and supported by our own tests), FrontPage will *not* work to a network share. In fact, many Microsoft server products will lose much of their functionality if they are not run on local disks. I'm pretty much convinced this is an NT issue and not a Netapp one (since we can't get FrontPage to work even when sharing a filesystem from another NT box). What are the alternatives? NFS on NT? We asked a Microsoft IIS engineer how MS handles the problem of distributed servers, and his response was "Oh, we just replicate all our data". :-/ -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)netcom.ca) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"

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Re: FP'98 + IIS 4.0 + NT4 + CIFS
by Rajiv Khemani 13 Mar '98

13 Mar '98

> That's another approach we can take, but since IIS is the only >Microsoft component left in the equation, Microsoft probably won't >like that much (this hosting agreement is part of a larger deal >between our two companies). ;-) Brian, I know of a few filer customers who are using IIS with the filers using CIFS. No one is using the Frontpage 98 extensions to IIS, as they don't work over a network share. As Mike Patchen pointed out, Microsoft has promised to fix this in Frontpage 99. If this is really important to you, you should bring that up as a requirement to Microsoft. Andy Schulert <andyschu(a)microsoft.com> is the person to send your needs to. The people successfully using IIS with filers are currently using FTP - to allow users to upload web pages to their personal directories. With the filers, we also have created a special NT utility that "effectively" allows large # of directory quotas for this special situation. This is so you can do quotas for your web-hosting users. Using quotas on filers is apparently the only scalable quota solution available for NT today (according to people who use them). We can polish this utility for wider usage, if we see a lot of demand for web-hosting quotas. Regards, -Rajiv ---- Rajiv Khemani Group Marketing Manager Network Appliance, Inc. Direct: 408-367-3758 Fax: 408-367-3670 HTTP: http://www.netapp.com

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Re: FP'98 + IIS 4.0 + NT4 + CIFS
by sirbruce＠ix.netcom.com 13 Mar '98

13 Mar '98

On 03/12/98 23:39:54 you wrote: > >On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 sirbruce(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: >> >> The alternative is pretty clear to me... don't use IIS/FrontPage if >> it requires you to redo your entire infrastructure or approach in >> order to support it. > > I don't think that's an option, unfortunately. The challenge is >to give customers what they need, rather than what they think they >want. They want NT. What they need is an easy way to manage the >content of their Web site and the e-mail of their employees, without >having the first clue about the Internet. I can sympathize. I'm sure everyone here does. We've ALL been there. :) And I'm not trying to start that tired old UNIX vs. NT argument. There are circumstances where NT is a fine solution. All I'm saying is that if the application isn't up to your needs, perhaps one should consider a different application. (And if that means a different platform, then you have reason to question NT in the first place.) >Writing our own software to >do that would take a lot longer than buying an off-the-shelf product. >Maybe we'll go with FrontPage with Apache on Solaris, or perhaps we'll >find that NFS on NT with the Netapp does the job for us. I wouldn't be surprised if IIS/FrontPage have the same troubles over NFS on NT, but I confess I don't know for certain as I've never tried it. Bruce

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Re: FP'98 + IIS 4.0 + NT4 + CIFS
by sirbruce＠ix.netcom.com 13 Mar '98

13 Mar '98

On 03/12/98 15:22:50 you wrote: > > Does anyone have some experience setting up an NT4/IIS 4.0 Web >server with the FrontPage extensions, using a Netapp as the data >store? According to Microsoft (and supported by our own tests), >FrontPage will *not* work to a network share. In fact, many Microsoft >server products will lose much of their functionality if they are not >run on local disks. > > I'm pretty much convinced this is an NT issue and not a Netapp one >(since we can't get FrontPage to work even when sharing a filesystem >from another NT box). What are the alternatives? NFS on NT? We >asked a Microsoft IIS engineer how MS handles the problem of >distributed servers, and his response was "Oh, we just replicate all >our data". :-/ The alternative is pretty clear to me... don't use IIS/FrontPage if it requires you to redo your entire infrastructure or approach in order to support it. Bruce

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