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Re: Disk drives prices
by Mark D Simmons 20 Mar '98

20 Mar '98

> Anyone have a prediction for how long it will be (if ever) until NetApp is > a software only company? For example, Compaq produces a server running a > NetApp OS. > > I predict 2 years. I rather hope NetApp don't become a software only company because it would mean poorer quality software and overly complex hardware maintenance in a very short period of time after the decision was implemented. > > How many people would pay a few grand for a CD containing a NetApp OS that > could be installed on any PC (albeit with a limited hardware selection) > and a software license? I'd rather (get someone to) pay lots of cash up front for the Rolls-Royce approach. As it is, my time as a contracted SA is very expensive to my ultimate employer but I'm happily managing TB's of data because of some very shrewd h/w and software purchasing, of which NetApp is a very significant part. So my vfm to my employer is acceptable to them... The day we can no longer get NetApp boxes will probably be the day when we revert to Sun, SGI or even Auspex for a total solution approach. There are companies out there who do the software only approach, but I've yet to hear of anyone betting their multi-billion dollar/year enterprise on them. > > Chris >

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exports with IP only?
by Alexei Rodriguez 20 Mar '98

20 Mar '98

Has anybody gotten exports from a filer to work with the network/netmask notation (eg: 192.168.254.0/24) without the resolver running (or at all)? I tired it under 4.3.r1 and it failed. I have not spent more time working on this. Anybody? Alex

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Re: Disk drives prices
by Scott Miller 19 Mar '98

19 Mar '98

On Mar 19, 10:15am, Dave Hitz wrote: > Subject: Re: Disk drives prices > > I rather hope NetApp don't become a software only company because it > > would mean poorer quality software and overly complex hardware > > maintenance in a very short period of time after the decision was > > implemented. > ... > For high-end or > enterprise-class servers, I think that customers want fully integrated > solutions. Customers do; the key word being "solution". We fight all the time with vendors who sell parts, when what we want to buy is a solution to our problems. Plus, in an environment where the data is valuable, and (as in our case) where the data *is* the product, the mildly higher price for disks and RAM is well worth the peace of mind. Having hardware parts are tested, qualified and supported by the vendor is a huge win. How valuable is your data? -Skottie -- ----- Scott Miller | Walt Disney Feature Animation skottie(a)fa.disney.com | Digital Studio Technology

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Re: inn and 630
by David Power 19 Mar '98

19 Mar '98

And how much ram was enough? Im using v2/udp nfs and have disabled v3 tcp but the performance on large files stinks. Are you using a solaris machine? Im wondering if its a OS specific problem or a Netapp config problem. Everything so far points at the 630. --- On Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:10:53 -0800 (PST) Jaye Mathisen <mrcpu(a)cdsnet.net> wrote: > >Yes, I am, works fabulous once I got enough RAM in that baby. > >I find best results with v2/UDP NFS, and disable v3 and TCP mounts >completely. > >Also, trim your misc.jobs.offered, and control directories regularly, >large dirs still kill the Netapp until they get their Btree directory >implementation running. > > > >On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, David Power wrote: > David Power V-P Operations Insync Internet Services Inc.

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Re: inn and 630
by David Power 19 Mar '98

19 Mar '98

--- On Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:29:40 -0500 Alexei Rodriguez <alexei(a)cimedia.com> wrote: > >This sounds very odd. We used NetApp's for news at my previous job >and they worked beautifully. > >What OS and patch levels do you have on the Sun. Not that SS20's are >real speed demons... Sparc 20 upgraded to dual ross 150's. 512meg ram 2 fast 2.1 gig internals 2 fastwide 4 gig externals. Release: 5.6 Kernel architecture: sun4m Application architecture: sparc Hardware provider: Sun_Microsystems Domain: Kernel version: SunOS 5.6 Generic 105181-04 January 1998 > >What version of DataONTAP do you have on the filer? What ndd setting have >you applied to the SS20? NetApp Release 5.0, upgraded a couple of days ago and problem didnt change. We were running 4.3.1 before this. Are there any nfs /usr/sbin/ndd -set /dev/ip ip_respond_to_echo_broadcast 0 /usr/sbin/ndd -set /dev/ip ip_enable_group_ifs 0 /usr/sbin/ndd -set /dev/tcp tcp_recv_hiwat 65536 /usr/sbin/ndd -set /dev/tcp tcp_xmit_hiwat 65536 /usr/sbin/ndd -set /dev/tcp tcp_cwnd_max 65535 /usr/sbin/ndd -set /dev/tcp tcp_ip_abort_cinterval 30000 /usr/sbin/ndd -set /dev/tcp tcp_close_wait_interval 30000 > >Doe the large writes correspond to a specific news hierarchy (ie: misc.jobs.* >or alt.binaries.*)? Any file over 30k or so. >What does sysstat look like when this occurs? > CPU NFS CIFS HTTP Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache in out read write read write age 0% 48 0 0 26 11 88 0 0 0 5 0% 101 0 0 50 20 296 0 0 0 5 1% 104 0 0 54 32 148 0 0 0 5 2% 117 0 0 70 24 368 0 0 0 5 1% 80 0 0 41 12 140 0 0 0 5 3% 56 0 0 33 11 248 0 0 0 5 2% 71 0 0 44 9 356 0 0 0 5 7% 111 0 0 67 18 2428 1332 0 0 5 19% 48 0 0 18 6 4808 5284 0 0 5 4% 86 0 0 43 11 680 1376 0 0 5 0% 36 0 0 12 143 272 0 0 0 5 1% 104 0 0 46 29 484 0 0 0 5 2% 69 0 0 36 14 120 0 0 0 5 2% 73 0 0 39 14 52 0 0 0 5 1% 84 0 0 41 13 180 0 0 0 5 2% 65 0 0 39 8 228 0 0 0 5 2% 61 0 0 37 11 152 0 0 0 5 7% 143 0 0 795 23 44 0 0 0 5 > >Alexei > Thanks -----------------End of Original Message----------------- David Power V-P Operations Insync Internet Services Inc.

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Re: NIS Binding Problem
by John F. Kane 19 Mar '98

19 Mar '98

I have not located any reported bugs in the NOW Bugs Online database that resemble this problem. Is NetApp aware of this problem and working a solution? Turning off NIS may stop the problem from reoccurring but is not a solution to the problem. The NetApp NIS implementation is a relatively new addition to ONTAP and may need some attention. John Kane geen wrote: > John, > > I saw the same thing with 4.3.1. My solution was to turn off NIS. > > -g d geen > > geen(a)ti.com > > John F. Kane wrote: > > > Has anyone experienced NIS binding problems on their filers? > > We have four filers (3 F330s & 1 F230) running Ontap 4.3R3 > > that have been locking out users on a few occasions this past week > > The UNIX servers and user workstations trying to access the > > filers are reporting "server not responding: RPC: Timed out" errors. > > There is not much helpful in the filer logs. In order to unhang the > > filer, we must manually rebind it to a different NIS slave server. > > > > -- > > John F. Kane

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Re: Turning off auto-negotiation on GbE?
by mohan＠netapp.com 19 Mar '98

19 Mar '98

That's right. To turn off auto-negotiation on filers running the 4.3 release, under rc_toggle_basic, toaster*> alttune 0 LinkNegotiation 0 mohan > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Was: Data ONTAP 5.0 memory requirements > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:14:03 -0500 > From: Alexei Rodriguez <alexei(a)cimedia.com> > > +--- In a previous state of mind, Jaye Mathisen <mrcpu(a)cdsnet.net> wrote: > | > | Anybody actually running gigabit ethernet on their filer? I'm > | thinking about it... > > I elped a friend of mine get it working. The alttune command > under rc_toggle_basic is your friend (if you are using a > non-alteon switch). Turn off link auto-negotiation. > > My friend is using a Prominet (now Lucent) P550 switch. He is very > happy with it. I am scheduled to have a loaner box from them > and will buy it after (should it work). > > Alexei >

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Netcache direction?
by Jaye Mathisen 18 Mar '98

18 Mar '98

Anybody actually using a caching appliance? I am looking at doing transparent proxy, but it would be nice if some of the IP header translation stuff could be done in the netapp, rather than at another machine. With the near 100% uptime of my filers, I hate the thoughts of introducing a less reliable solution.

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Cadence software on FAServer
by Philip Thomas 18 Mar '98

18 Mar '98

I would like to know: (a) how many sites (or you know of) are using FAServer as NFS server for Cadence packages (libraries, design home etc) and for how long? (b) how many sites have tried to use it and gave up? If so, briefly, what were the reasons? Philip Thomas Motorola - ATL, M/S M350 2200 W. Broadway M350 Mesa, AZ 85202 rxjs80(a)email.sps.mot.com (602) 655-3678 (602) 655-2285 (fax)

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Re: ontap 5.0?
by sirbruce＠ix.netcom.com 18 Mar '98

18 Mar '98

On 03/18/98 10:52:15 you wrote: > >Well, I heard it is out. I went to the now.netapp.com site. I see >the announcement, I go to the software library. ONTAP 3.1.6 is the >latest recommended release? What happened to 4.3.1? > >I think something is broken. Either that, or NetApp is celebrating >April 1st a little early. I think like most corporate web sites, it is usually up to date, but sometimes one group does get ahead of the other even in the most organized companies. I'm sure it's just an oversight, and/or the NOW people not having the time/ability/resources/information/etc. to update it completely. >I noticed in the 5.0 announcement that they say the Exabyte Mammoth is >only supported on the F630. Why would such a limitation be made? I don't know much about the Mammoth... does it only come in wide SCSI? That and QA reasons (the 630 might be the only current platform that they had time to test it with) could explain the limitation. Or perhaps there is some bug still to be worked out on other platforms (ah, the wonderful world of strange hardware chip interactions!). >And while I'm here, I might mention that the PDF file format is quite >possibly the second most annoying thing found on the internet, >surpassed only by spam. I blew off far too much time trying to get a >reader for the 5.0 readme file, only to find 1.25 pages of >almost-completely-useless text. I agree with you that PDF is, sadly, annoying but it is more-or-less the best standard out their currently. I don't know by "useless" text if you meant it was just not informative or you had difficulty reading it... you usually need to zoom in a level when using the Adobe Acrobat reader for it to be legible. IMHO, every web site should offer documentation in PDF, PS, MSWord, HTML, and plain TXT. Bruce

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