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RE: cheaper alternatives to NetApp?
by Dawn Hamel 12 May '99

12 May '99

and here is a web page that talks about their offering http://www.dell.com/products/powervault/pv7X0N/index.htm Dawn -----Original Message----- From: Dawn Hamel [mailto:dahame@wnt.sas.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 10:04 AM To: 'Matt Harrington'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: cheaper alternatives to NetApp? Try looking into the Dell Solution. I have a F720 in house from Dell that has their 18G drives attached. If you are looking for a cheaper solution ... an F720 with Dell drives might be the way to go. Contact your local Dell Representative Dawn (just giving possible alternatives) -----Original Message----- From: Matt Harrington [mailto:matteo@dnai.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 6:56 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: cheaper alternatives to NetApp? I'm in the market for something very similar to a F720 but with cheaper 18GB drive prices. I know of competitive products from Nitech and Procomm but as far as I can tell nothing but the NetApp will let me add 1 or 2 drives to the RAID set at a time. I assume this is because the NetApps use RAID 4. Does anyone know of a NAS product which will allow me to add a drive at a time without having to reformat the entire RAIDset? matt -- matt(a)ucsd.EDU

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Microsoft transaction Server and Netapp
by Jay Querusio 12 May '99

12 May '99

Does anyone have this working with a Netapp? Is there a work around to allow MTS to use a network drive for com objects stored on a Netapp? Or any future compatability that the folks at Netapp could share? Any info would be appreciated Thanks, Jay

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RE: cheaper alternatives to NetApp?
by Dawn Hamel 12 May '99

12 May '99

Try looking into the Dell Solution. I have a F720 in house from Dell that has their 18G drives attached. If you are looking for a cheaper solution ... an F720 with Dell drives might be the way to go. Contact your local Dell Representative Dawn (just giving possible alternatives) -----Original Message----- From: Matt Harrington [mailto:matteo@dnai.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 6:56 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: cheaper alternatives to NetApp? I'm in the market for something very similar to a F720 but with cheaper 18GB drive prices. I know of competitive products from Nitech and Procomm but as far as I can tell nothing but the NetApp will let me add 1 or 2 drives to the RAID set at a time. I assume this is because the NetApps use RAID 4. Does anyone know of a NAS product which will allow me to add a drive at a time without having to reformat the entire RAIDset? matt -- matt(a)ucsd.EDU

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Mixing Shelves
by Jay Orr 12 May '99

12 May '99

I'm trying to figure out if the toasters always have just one volume, or if I can have a few shelves as 4 gig, and a few as 9 gig, and use 2 mount points (one for the 9G and one for the 4G shelves). We've currently got 4 shelves of 4gig narrows, but all that is available from NetApps now (and soon to be stopped) are fast/wide 9gig shelves/controllers. Can we take a fast/wide card and a shelf of 9GIG to expand, or will the 9G drives be treated like 4G drives, and I'll loose the extra 5G per drive? ----------- Fujitsu - Nexion, St. Louis, MO Jay Orr (314) 579-6517

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cheaper alternatives to NetApp?
by Matt Harrington 11 May '99

11 May '99

I'm in the market for something very similar to a F720 but with cheaper 18GB drive prices. I know of competitive products from Nitech and Procomm but as far as I can tell nothing but the NetApp will let me add 1 or 2 drives to the RAID set at a time. I assume this is because the NetApps use RAID 4. Does anyone know of a NAS product which will allow me to add a drive at a time without having to reformat the entire RAIDset? matt -- matt(a)ucsd.EDU

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End-of-Year backup plans...
by Don Glascock 11 May '99

11 May '99

Hi -- As we prepare for the potential purchase of a relatively large toaster in six months or so, we are also considering the options for backing it up. We're happy with our little F230, traditional "14 Gbyte" 8mm tapes, and Networker, but it would appear that lights-out backups of a much larger toaster would do better with bigger-capacity tapes. The AIT/DLT discussions & documents have been very useful. So the big questions we will need to have answered in the next six months are: 1. Will Legato's Networker backup software speak NDMP by Q1 2000? It is said that this is the reason why they bought BudTool from Intelliguard. Do representatives of Legato read this list? 2. Does Network Appliance plan to support AIT jukeboxes (not just autoloaders) in native mode (not just "dds mode") by Q1 2000? 3. Will Legato (or Veritas) take advantage of the memory chips on AIT tapes? If so, exactly how? 4. What do you think of the statement made in one of the AIT/DLT documents that said that AIT tape drives only clean the head, and not the tape path as well? I realize this is only May, but planning is everything. Thanks! Don Glascock -- Donald S. Glascock Mailstop GU-1016 Special Purpose Processor Development Group Mayo Foundation Rochester, MN 55905 Glascock.Donald(a)Mayo.EDU +1.507.284.1850 +1.507.284.9171 (fax) http://www.mayo.edu/sppdg/sppdg_home_page.html "No matter where you go, there you are."

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rsh from NT
by Jason Middlebrooks 11 May '99

11 May '99

Now that I have been corrected about rsh working from NT how do I do it. I have the NT host name in the hosts.equiv file on the filer but everytime I try to rsh I get a permission denied. Any ideas?

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Solaris/NIS/shadow-passwords
by David Lee 11 May '99

11 May '99

We are considering getting a NetApp Filer to become the major fileserver in our established cluster of Solaris 2.6 machines, with a user population of some 15,000 administered using NIS with shadow passwords for authentication. We understand that filer can do NIS, and that it can use its own shadow password file, but can use a Solaris/NIS/shadow combination? Network Appliance haven't yet been able to give us a definitive answer, nor a reference site we could contact. -- : David Lee I.T. Service : : Systems Programmer Computer Centre : : University of Durham : : Phone: +44 191 374 2882 (ddi) South Road : : Fax: +44 191 374 7759 Durham : : Internet: T.D.Lee(a)durham.ac.uk U.K. :

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Re: Solaris/NIS/shadow-passwords
by sirbruce＠ix.netcom.com 11 May '99

11 May '99

On 05/10/99 14:25:10 you wrote: >However, if you are in a Unix only environment, then this doesn't >matter. The filer does no allow login, so the password portion is not >used. The only thing the filer uses the password file for is to do >username->UID mapping, so you only really need to worry about having a >password at all if you have an /etc/quotas file with usernames in it. Jerry, You're forgetting PC-NFS. Some people still use that. It would be nice if PC-NFS supported Solaris shadow passwords as well as the old SunOS 4.x NIS shadow passwords. >If you are using Unix password authentication with CIFS, however, you >have to copy the shadow file onto the filer itself. (Note that this does >not apply if you have domain authentication.) But what he wants is for the filer to support this via NIS, so he doesn't have to copy the shadow file onto the filer itself. (That is one of the main points of NIS, you know.) Bruce

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Dual power on F760
by Aaron M. Sims 11 May '99

11 May '99

I've scanned the docs and the now.netapp.com site for an answer to this... no luck. How do I determine the status of either power supply in a F760 filer. If a power supply is off or failed, I'd like to run a command that will tell me just that. Thanks, Aaron -- Aaron M. Sims | "The reason why bad things happen to you is BellSouth.net | because you're a dumbass!" Systems Engineer | - Red Foreman, That 70s Show aaron.sims(a)bellsouth.net|

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