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change notification handles
by Todd C. Merrill 13 May '99

13 May '99

Some users here have recently reported significant slowdowns with some testing suites. They claim the addition of a few directories to a certain path triggered the performance degradation and are asking me about change notification handles for the CIFS service. Searching the NOW site, CD docs, and the toaster mailing list archives just gave me hits on "Yup, it's there," but nothing else. Can anyone reference a pointer on more information? What the ONTAP limit is? If there are any tunable parameters? NetApp Release 5.2.1P2: Tue Mar 16 10:41:03 PST 1999 Until next time... Todd C. Merrill The Mathworks, Inc. 508-647-7792 24 Prime Park Way, Natick, MA 01760-1500 508-647-7012 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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Syslog message
by Jay Orr 13 May '99

13 May '99

Anyone seen this or know what it means? I just setup the syslog to send to another system (it didn't have a syslog.conf file before). I set it up like the example so it's sending *.err and kern.* to another system. Now I'm getting : May 12 11:57:31 hardrock Wed May 12 11:57:32 CDT [portmapper]: portmap: prog (300214,1,201) not registered. May 12 11:57:31 obriens Wed May 12 11:57:32 CDT [portmapper]: portmap: prog (300214,1,201) not registered. in the syslog (hardrock and obriens are the two toasters). It's repeating every half hour or so... Thanks in advance for the help... ----------- Fujitsu - Nexion, St. Louis, MO Jay Orr (314) 579-6517

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Netapp filers & MS Exchange
by Itzik (Itzhak) Meirson DSc 13 May '99

13 May '99

I am willing to implement Exchange on NetApp. I have two exchange servers with each holding about 20GB of data. I have seen the document on NOW. It is imperative to have close to 24*7 service from the Exchange servers. My questions are related to backups of the Exchange on NetApp: 1. How can I create a "Exchange consistent" snapshots to provide for the backup of Exchange (snapshot) with of the shelf software like Legato Networker (no Exchange API - just files). 2. As circular logging should be disabled - Is there any API/procedure that will clean up the transaction logs as it is done by "Exchange aware" backup clients but without actually doing the backup to a physical device. 3. In case of a need for partial data recovery - is there a Filer local copy, the convert a part of a snapshot from RO to RW mode besides a through the host copy can can always be done but consumes a lot of bandwidth, time and resources. Would appreciate any thoughts/suggestions/enlightnings/pointers to the above subjects. -- Itzik Meirson <mailto:imeirson@xpert.com> Xpert Integrated Systems Systems & Storage Integration Specialist

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Re: Dual power on F760
by sirbruce＠ix.netcom.com 13 May '99

13 May '99

On 05/11/99 10:39:39 you wrote: > >On Mon, 10 May 1999, Timothy Moore wrote: > >> The machine 'hitz' is a F760 in my lab running 5.3. At the back of the machine I >> turned one power supply off then back on, repeat with the other. The messages were >> generated to the console, system logger and as event notification email. > >The machines I was referring to, are NetCaches C760 running 3.3R2D12. We >did the same with switching the power supplies on and off and the Ok >message never came, only the failed one did. Sounds like a bug. Contact support. :) Bruce

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Re: Solaris/NIS/shadow-passwords
by sirbruce＠ix.netcom.com 13 May '99

13 May '99

On 05/11/99 08:42:47 you wrote: >As always, your results may vary - but it'll be a long time before >I bother attempting to use NetApp NIS again. I have the files >all copied locally and can't see any reason to go back..... Yep. When I tested the NIS myself and eventually went back to using and recommending that configuration. Making the copying of files part of the ypmake isn't all that difficult. As with any new Netapp feature, the initial implementation is done quickly and leaves much to be desired, especially in the areas of reliability and ease-of-use. After a few iterations they get it right; this is not unlike the way new features appear in other OSes, really. You've seen the same thing with CIFS, NFS, and so on. I'm sure the current NIS code is much better than it was when they first released it. I've found many sysadmins who use NIS don't like to make important servers NIS clients for various reliability reasons. They run local YP masters on them; with the filer this means local files. Bruce

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RE: cheaper alternatives to NetApp?
by sirbruce＠ix.netcom.com 13 May '99

13 May '99

On 05/12/99 10:04:02 you wrote: > >Try looking into the Dell Solution. I have a F720 >in house from Dell that has their 18G drives attached. >If you are looking for a cheaper solution ... >an F720 with Dell drives might be the way to go. I find it hard to believe that Dell would sell the same model as Netapp at a cheaper price. Dell and Netapp are supposedly cooperating to divide the NAS market into pieces they each can exploit effectively. If Dell is just going to resell Netapp's at a cheaper price, what's the point? As to cheaper solutions than Netapp that allow you to add 1 disk at a time, no, I'm not aware of one. EMC claimed this could be done with RAID-5 but were unable to come clean with the full story. RAID-4 has many advantages and no other vendor can offer that because they don't have Netapp's technology. The fact the disks are more expensive shouldn't bother you; you get quality for the money. If you want to look at it another way, then just tell yourself the disks are exactly the same price you'd get elsewhere, and you're just paying a premium for the filer's unmatched performance and reliability. Bruce

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power consumption
by Farid Hamjavar 13 May '99

13 May '99

Where are documents on line that tells me how much power netapp hardware uses in watt or in kva format .... ? f760 and f330 and some disk sheves ... Thanks, Farid

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RE: administrivia
by Kinney, Roger 12 May '99

12 May '99

I believe that's unsubscribe dl-toasters <your email address> -----Original Message----- From: fubar(a)mathworks.com [mailto:fubar@mathworks.com] Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 7:40 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: administrivia With the flurry of unsubscribe requests going to the list lately, I thought I'd take this opportunity to remind everyone how to get off this list correctly. *** If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to <majordomo(a)mathworks.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe toasters <your email address> *** There is a list archive (searchable, even) available on the web at http://teaparty.mathworks.com:1999/toasters/ K.

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RE: CIFS permissions
by Muhlestein, Mark 12 May '99

12 May '99

See http://now.netapp.com/knowledge/docs/olio/guides/53_troubleshooting/faq.sht… chor1395706 for a description of what default permissions get set for files created by CIFS clients. In summary, if the parent dir has NTFS-style security, the ACL inherits using normal NTFS inheritance rules. If the parent dir has UNIX-style security, the 2000 bit (SGID) and other perms inherit from the parent directory. It sounds like that may be the behavior you are looking for. Good luck, Mark Muhlestein -- mmm(a)netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Quinlan [mailto:quinlan@transmeta.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 1:58 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: CIFS permissions Good question from someone here at Transmeta, anyone know the answer? Subject: CIFS perms on the netapp Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Hi Dan, Is there a way in a CIFs mounted share from the netapps to force newly created directories to have a specific set of permissions (ie mode 2775)? We are currently using Unix-style trees. We may use some mixed-trees once we have a PDC. - Dan

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CIFS permissions
by Daniel Quinlan 12 May '99

12 May '99

Good question from someone here at Transmeta, anyone know the answer? Subject: CIFS perms on the netapp Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Hi Dan, Is there a way in a CIFs mounted share from the netapps to force newly created directories to have a specific set of permissions (ie mode 2775)? We are currently using Unix-style trees. We may use some mixed-trees once we have a PDC. - Dan

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