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Re: erase disk label?
by Paul Albers 27 May '99

27 May '99

At 05:46 PM 5/26/99 -0400, mgx(a)spruce.lsd.ornl.gov wrote: >netapp support advised me to use the disk_remove_label >command to remove the disk labels of a couple of new >disks which decided to insert themselves into a new >and unused vol. however, my 5.3D2 ontap does not seem >to know the disk_remove_label command. is this correct? >or is there another command to remove the disk label? > >-- >-- michael > Michael, Use the disk_erase_label command, you will be able to find this command under rc_toggle_basic. You should be able to use the 'vol destroy' command to destroy these unwanted volumes though. Either one should accomplish what you are trying to do, turn these drives into spares. -paul

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Evil Twins
by Jay Soffian 26 May '99

26 May '99

Okay, I've got to know. What does 'evil_twins' do? The help for the command isn't too enlightening: in-progress evil twin resize info j. -- Jay Soffian <jay(a)cimedia.com> UNIX Systems Administrator 404.572.1941 Cox Interactive Media

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erase disk label?
by mgx＠spruce.lsd.ornl.gov 26 May '99

26 May '99

netapp support advised me to use the disk_remove_label command to remove the disk labels of a couple of new disks which decided to insert themselves into a new and unused vol. however, my 5.3D2 ontap does not seem to know the disk_remove_label command. is this correct? or is there another command to remove the disk label? -- -- michael

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Re: Anybody running alternative NAS boxes alongside netapps?
by sirbruce＠ix.netcom.com 25 May '99

25 May '99

On 05/25/99 15:22:26 you wrote: > >In message <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905241404040.332-100000(a)schizo.cdsnet.net>, Jaye >Mathisen writes: >> >>I just got done catching my breath, and wiping the tears out of my eyes >>reviewing the latest storage quote from Netapp for my 540. Out of curiosity, was it simply a quote on more disks, which was too high for you, or is your current system already at capacity and you'd have to do a bunch of upgrades to newer hardware to get more storage? If it's the latter it's really unfair to use it for price comparison when other products; you will run into similar limitations on them eventually. If it's the former, remember that the disk is more expensive because it goes hand-in-had with the high performance and testing. If you want to use another product with cheaper disk, it's not going to be as reliable, particularly under heavy loads. >>Is anybody using some of the other boxes available as adjuncts to the >>netapp? I'm going to keep my netapps for some very specific users, but I >>believe I can move significant amounts of data (log files, etc). off to >>other products, and avoid paying absolutely ridiculous prices... Well, it's not clear what you want these adjunct products to do. If you care about reliability or performance, you'd get a netapp despite the price. If you don't care about these things, and simply want cheap bulk storage for "significant amounts of data" that you don't care how slow it is, or if it crashes and you lose all your data, nor how much administration time it will take adding new disks since you won't get RAID-4, then I see no reason to go with another "appliance-like" product. Just add some disks to your regular user/compute/development/cpu/whatever-you-call-them servers, be they Sun, Linux, Compaq/Digital, or whatever. Bruce

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Re: Anybody running alternative NAS boxes alongside netapps?
by Jason D. Kelleher 25 May '99

25 May '99

In message <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905241404040.332-100000(a)schizo.cdsnet.net>, Jaye Mathisen writes: > >I just got done catching my breath, and wiping the tears out of my eyes >reviewing the latest storage quote from Netapp for my 540. > >Is anybody using some of the other boxes available as adjuncts to the >netapp? I'm going to keep my netapps for some very specific users, but I >believe I can move significant amounts of data (log files, etc). off to >other products, and avoid paying absolutely ridiculous prices... > >My needs are mainly NFS, with just a hint of CIFS (that I can live w/o), >thrown in. > >Thanks in advance. I stopped by the Netforce booth at SANS. Not bad. They had a workgroup server for ~$5000 with a capacity of 80GB as well as higher end systems. I don't know if I'd trust them for critical data, but they're probably worth a look. jason

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by John McLaughlin 25 May '99

25 May '99

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Anybody running alternative NAS boxes alongside netapps?
by Jaye Mathisen 24 May '99

24 May '99

I just got done catching my breath, and wiping the tears out of my eyes reviewing the latest storage quote from Netapp for my 540. Is anybody using some of the other boxes available as adjuncts to the netapp? I'm going to keep my netapps for some very specific users, but I believe I can move significant amounts of data (log files, etc). off to other products, and avoid paying absolutely ridiculous prices... My needs are mainly NFS, with just a hint of CIFS (that I can live w/o), thrown in. Thanks in advance.

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Re: NetBackup + F760s -- any solutions?
by Benjy Feen 24 May '99

24 May '99

Turned out to be simpler than I thought. Our Fast Ethernet card was pegged at half duplex instead of full. Using full duplex allowed the data to stream, and our backup completed in one hour instead of 7. Maybe I should post a summary of things I've said to myself here :) On Mon, 24 May 1999, Bennett Todd wrote: > 1999-05-24-14:17:29 Benjy Feen: > > [...] At this point it needs to write an index which ends up being about > > 76MB. Now the fun begins. The index data isn't streaming at ALL. It writes > > a couple dozen blocks and then pauses, and as we progress into the tape the > > pauses get longer and longer. I'm guessing that the tape is continuously > > rewinding and seeking to the write point, writing a couple of blocks, and > > then starting over again. The index takes about 4 hours to write this way. > I'm not a netbackup expert, in fact I know very little about it, but if I > found a situation like that I'd be looking for a way to write that index file > to disk. Or to send it through a pipe, with something like team[1] to > aggressively buffer the tape output. > > -Bennett > > [1] <URL:ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles/team-3.1.tar.gz> > -=- Benjy Feen benjy(a)feen.com http://www.feen.com Specialization is for insects. =-=

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NetBackup + F760s -- any solutions?
by Benjy Feen 24 May '99

24 May '99

Hi -- Just joined the list, and not a moment too soon... I've been tasked with providing a backup solution for a couple of F760s, with an ultimate eye on providing a good solution for a slew of F330s and such. Here's what I've got to work with: a Sun E450 a Sun StorEdge L1000 library with 4 Quantum DLT7000s (Same as ATL P1000) 2 F760s running 5.2.1P2 ; approx 190 GB of disk each NetBackup 3.1.1 We run both CIFS and NFS, and this data is considered extremely critical. Can anyone recommend a cookbook solution for getting successful backups with this set of equipment? I've searched the mailing list archive, but haven't found a "how-to". NDMP seems to be the only way, and I noticed some animosity toward NetBackup's NDMP skills... Thanks! Benjy Feen

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Homeworkers Needed !
by bretu213＠mindspring.com 22 May '99

22 May '99

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